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Topic started on 4-10-2009 @ 12:47 PM by korath
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I know it's legal to own guns and keep them in your house, but suppose you loose your home and your living in your car? Your new home is your car. Do
you still have the right to keep firearms in it? Now suppose your car gets towed and your new home is a tent. Do you still get to keep firearms in it?
What if the tent blows away in a storm and your down to a backpack. Can you still have your guns with you?
If your walking down a dirt road do the police have the right to disarm you and take your weapons as some kind of precautionary measure? I've seen
lots of homeless people on T.V. and on the street and none of them where carrying rifles or shotguns. At what point of their downward spiral where
they told their right to keep and bear arms has been suspended?
Is there some fear from TPTB when people reach that level the last thing they want them to be is armed?
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reply posted on 4-10-2009 @ 12:55 PM by Ferris.Bueller.II
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Under the U.S. Constitution, all you have to be to have the right to keep and bear arms is to be a U.S. citizen. No mention of type or form of
physical residency.
Now under state and local laws that put limits on your rights under the U.S. Constitution, those probably do to assist the state and local law
enforcement agencies to track and control us.
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reply posted on 4-10-2009 @ 03:30 PM by UndergroundMilitia
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Absolutely, you can own any firearm you want as long as it is legal in your state. People in NY or CA, I feel sorry for you. In NY, only hunting
rifles are legal and no semi-auto with a clip (AR-15) is allowed unless you're law enforcement. Hand guns may need to be registered as well, again,
it depends on the state. I was born and raised in NY but I now live in Florida where pretty much everything is legal.. In Florida and many states, you
can have a firearm in your car..loaded handguns must be securely holstered and in your glove box or trunk, long rifles can be on your passenger seat,
they just can't be loaded and this also applies to shotties as well.
Next time you see a Sheriff's Deputy, be cool and inquire about the state law. From my experience, deputies tend to be cool and they'll tell you
the laws.
Long live the 2nd Amendment!!
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reply posted on 4-10-2009 @ 03:34 PM by severdsoul
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also falls under cwp, if the gun is in your back pack, then you could be charged, but if its out in the open diffrent story.
Its all diffrent state to state, good question though, one many may not have though of yet.
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reply posted on 4-10-2009 @ 03:56 PM by readerone
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you can also get the jury instructions from any county clerk .
that is the nice man or women you pay a speeding ticket to.
self deffense is not a crime , but manslauter is .
that is to say ; the self deffense exception to man slaughter is written in the jury instructions for the city and state your
in.
manslaughter is the unpremeditated taking of a life .
if your planning on killing a person , this won't help you .
but if you have a sword , knife , baseball bat or large stick, you might take a look at it .
if your a women with children , a man with a family , or some one with a life ( not a given ) ... its a good thing to read
.
what it will tell you is.... regardless of what other people are thinking , what the situation is or what is happening around
you ... if you beleive your life is in danger or.. the life of another is in danger.. you have the legal right to kill some
one ....with a gun or a kitchen knife .
your state of mind is the only aspect of the situation that is critical to self deffense ... the details of your location will
be in the jury instructions... and only apply to where you are...
change states , and these instructions likly will change .
99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999
may I add , this is not a bunch of legal krap ... frankly speaking... if you own any kind of fire arm... this is just one
thing among meny , that you need to know clearly..
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reply posted on 5-10-2009 @ 07:42 AM by projectvxn
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reply to post by Ferris.Bueller.II
I disagree with only one part:
You do not have to be a US citizen to purchase firearms in the US. You do have to be a legal US resident with no felonies on record. I'm an immigrant
to this nation and not yet a citizen, I own firearms legally.
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reply posted on 5-10-2009 @ 10:26 AM by TheRedneck
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reply to post by projectvxn
I'm an immigrant to this nation and not yet a citizen
Welcome to the USA, and thank you for coming in the front door!
Sorry the place is such a mess right now, but I hope you find it enjoyable anyway.
TheRedneck
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reply posted on 5-10-2009 @ 10:44 AM by Desert Dawg
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One of the reasons you don't see a homeless person carrying a long gun is that they are valuable and more than likely sold somewhere along the
way.
An excellent make-do weapon is a golf club.
A sand wedge in particular.
It makes a good cane and the club head is fat enough to be comfortable to grip.
The golf club grip will wear for a long time on the pavement if it is in fact used as a walking stick.
I used mine for quite a while during the recovery period for a torn up ankle.
A man with a stick is a big deterrent to big dogs as well as little ones.
A golf club is innocent appearing enough, but flipped over it makes a dandy weapon.
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Short story here:
About 15 years back, the golf club dad belonged to had a residential road running through it.
It crossed between the 17th green and 18th tee.
A couple of gang-bangers stopped their car when they saw a men's foursome coming off the 17th green.
Intent on robbery, they got out of the car with knives drawn.
After advancing toward the men they saw the guys pull clubs from their golf bag.
It didn't take long for them to realize they were facing four PO'd guys with clubs and they ran for it....
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reply posted on 5-10-2009 @ 11:21 AM by DaMod
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In Wyoming there is no conceal and carry law (even though there are city ordinances that prevent you from carrying inside a store or restaurant etc..)
In your car and loaded would be perfectly legal plus it doesn't matter what the gun is as long as it is semi auto.
Example:
I could put my SKS, loaded, with a banana clip (fully loaded) around town in my car and there would be no legal repercussions (as long as the rounds
aren't full metal jacket which you aren't really allowed to have anyway).
Of course as far as I know this is the only state where you can do that to this extreme. I know most states let you carry the gun in your vehicle
unloaded with the ammunition separately stored. Conceal and carry permits are the way to go for this instance imo.
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reply posted on 5-10-2009 @ 01:19 PM by TheRedneck
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Alabama:
You have the right to carry a gun in the open, loaded or not, as long as it is a legal gun and not intended for use in a crime (not sure how they
determine intent, but that's the law).
With a CC permit, you can carry any legal gun anywhere on your person or in your car, loaded or not. Permits are issued (at least were twenty years
ago when I got mine) by the local county sheriff, based on an application, a background check, and an interview with the sheriff himself.
Long guns are OK in cars (concealed) as long as they are not loaded, no CC permit required.
Still, if you walk through a major town carrying an arsenal openly on your back, expect people to get out of your way and the cops to watch closely
from a distance (that's experience talking  ).
Oh, and if you are ever stopped in your car, make sure the officer knows you have a legal gun in there. It saves a lot of stress on the poor
cops behalf.  Yeah, experience talking there too.
TheRedneck
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reply posted on 5-10-2009 @ 01:26 PM by LadySkadi
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*ahh, sorry - wrong thread - carry on*
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reply posted on 5-10-2009 @ 03:50 PM by DaMod
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reply to post by projectvxn
Welcome to the US. Glad you speak English (more than you could ever imagine)! Thanks for going about it the right way. Hope you gain your citizenship!
GOOD LUCK!
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reply posted on 5-10-2009 @ 04:08 PM by projectvxn
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reply to post by DaMod
I'm here under a form of political asylum. My parents are Cuban, the US government actually brought us here back in 89. I grew up here, I know no
other place. My citizenship is actually guaranteed to me, unless I commit a felony, which is not going to happen.
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reply posted on 6-10-2009 @ 12:41 AM by 341labrat
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It depends on what state you live in. For example in Montana your car is considered an extension of your house so it is legal to have a weapon
concealed in it. Also it is legal to carry a firearm within city limits without a permit as long as it is "open carried". Outside of city limits it
is legal to carry concealed without a permit.
Again, it depends on the state you live in. I personally believe the second ammendment is one of our most important rights, designed to keep the
governemt from disarming the people. People should not be afraid of their governments; governments should be afraid of their people.
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reply posted on 6-10-2009 @ 11:47 PM by riff_raff
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projectvxn,
Welcome to the USA, and thanks for doing it right.
Since you apparently have experience with life under a totalitarian regime, I'm sure you can appreciate our constitutional freedoms. Even more so
than many of the mushy, nanny state, fascists that hate the 2nd amendment.
As your parents will probably attest to, the first thing that any socialist dictator does upon assuming power, is to take control of the free press
and confiscate all firearms from private citizens. Our founding fathers understood this 233 years ago, and that's why they made freedom of speech
and the right to bear arms numbers 1 and 2 in our Bill of Rights. If there's one thing petty tyrants fear, it's a well informed and well armed
citizenry. Sadly, what most American liberals also fail to appreciate, is that without the 2nd amendment there would be no 1st amendment.
Ask your parents just how far Castro would have gotten with his revolution if Batista would have had an effective "gun control" policy in Cuba back
in '59?
Regards,
riff_raff
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reply posted on 6-10-2009 @ 11:49 PM by anonamousantichrist
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in oklahoma you do not. but the tornadoes may blow it away lol.
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reply posted on 11-10-2009 @ 11:24 PM by doza281
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Im a texas boy, and i know texas has the castle law. basically yur car is your home, and if you have the permit you can carry the firearm with you.
Depends on the state. i have my concieled carry permit in washington where i live. as long as its not a govt buildng or a bar it stays on my hip.
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reply posted on 11-10-2009 @ 11:44 PM by SM2
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In the state of Georgia, you can gte a concealed weapons permit which allows you to carry a loaded firearm anywhere on your person anywhere you go (as
long as it is holstered) anywhere you go except for government buildings, bars or public gatherings. We also have the Castle Doctrine which means
your car and place of business are extensions of your home. With the castle doctrine you have the right to use deadly force if you are in fear for
your life, protecting another person or to stop the commision of a felony. In doing so you are also immune to all civil and criminal prosecution.
Granted you will spend some time in jail while they figure everything out and complete the investigation.
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