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Test of laser from C-130H melts hood of car


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Topic started on 3-10-2009 @ 11:45 PM by sad_eyed_lady


Click link to see short video

www.airforcetimes.com...

New video released by the Air Force and Boeing Co. show what happens when a C-130H Hercules aims the Advanced Tactical Laser at the hood of car.

In the video recorded Aug. 30 during a test flight at Kirtland Air Force Base, N.M., the laser melts the hood and sparks a fire. A press statement from Boeing said the laser “killed the vehicle.”

The weapon uses a chemical laser that fills the cargo hold of C-130 to produce a laser beam fired from a turret mounted in the belly of a C-130.
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If the size of laser can be reduced, the Air Force could one day fly laser versions of the AC-130 gunships.

The future of the project is in doubt as it competes for funding with other weapons, but a Boeing official said he is optimistic.

“The bottom line is that ATL works, and works very well,” Gary Fitzmire, program director of Boeing Missile Defense Systems' Directed Energy Systems unit, said in a release. “ATL's components — the high-energy chemical laser, beam control system and battle manager — are performing as one integrated weapon system, delivering effective laser beam energy to ground targets.”

Working with Boeing on the $200 million project, which began in 2002, is the Air Force Research Lab’s Directed Energy Directorate.


This "War of the Worlds" type weaponry may just be the wave of the future. Sure wouldn't want it used on me!



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reply posted on 3-10-2009 @ 11:50 PM by jd140


Its pretty cool, but all I saw was a flame and a charred spot, I didn't see anything melted.

I still liked it, hopefully they can shrink those bad boys down and stick them on fighter jets, if they get the funding.

They would be a heck of a lot cheaper then missiles.



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reply posted on 3-10-2009 @ 11:51 PM by happygolucky


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Aerial view...


Click the last of the 4 videos...

Much cooler 'take' of the exercise...


Cool find



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reply posted on 3-10-2009 @ 11:52 PM by mkross1983


Interesting. Wish the video had showed the laser coming out of the unit mounted under the aircraft or something visible linking the two together. Would have been cooler. Just saw a plane flying then a hood on fire, looked like separate clips.



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reply posted on 3-10-2009 @ 11:54 PM by mkross1983


Originally posted by happygolucky
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Aerial view...


Click the last of the 4 videos...

Much cooler 'take' of the exercise...


Cool find


They're we go!

Much better!



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reply posted on 3-10-2009 @ 11:56 PM by sad_eyed_lady


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Thanks!

There are some youtubes on it. Here's one:

YouTube Link



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reply posted on 3-10-2009 @ 11:58 PM by Sundancer


Nice find star and flag, but I worry about the government having these types of weapons on a smaller scale.
It's already guilty until proven innocent in our country and police all over are tazing crippled people and old ladies. It's scary to think this could be given to the police at some point.



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reply posted on 4-10-2009 @ 12:01 AM by jd140


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I don't think you have to worry about the police getting this for a very long time.

They don't even know if they can make a working model small enough for a fighter jet, heck they don't even know if they can get funding to explore the possibility of making it small enough for a fighter jet. Star Trek phasers are still in the very far future.



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reply posted on 4-10-2009 @ 12:17 AM by HangingWithMrCrowley











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reply posted on 4-10-2009 @ 02:38 AM by Harlequin


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laser`s arnt like the movies - 99% of the time its a silent and invisible (to the naked eye) beam.



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reply posted on 4-10-2009 @ 02:53 AM by Retikx


wait till they integrate reflector satellites (if they haven't already) that can separate the beam into multiple beams and hit multiple ground and air targets at once. It is the ultimate deterrent, instantly frying an entire missile site or multiple ground based targets in a matter of moments.



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reply posted on 4-10-2009 @ 03:21 AM by Silver Shadow


As long as Americas enemies give up driving tanks and armoured vehicles, and drive around in cars, it should work great.



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reply posted on 4-10-2009 @ 03:26 AM by C0bzz


Chemical lasers are simply impractical for most mobile use in the ground, or on a fighter aircraft. They are heavy, need loads of fuel, take up loads of space, and have very hot exhaust gases.

www.defenceiq.com...

So unless you think they're going to be policing you with AC-130 aircraft then I wouldn't worry. If you want to worry about something look at other kinds of lasers...

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reply posted on 4-10-2009 @ 03:52 AM by SLAYER69


Well it's great to know that if we are ever invaded by an army of car and truck hoods we got it covered

They have been dragging this project along at a snails pace. Now either this has been very complicated or somebody has been milking it for as much as possible.

Besides I think we have been using them already... Maybe we may have seen the results of it being battle tested

here




YouTube Link



YouTube Link



YouTube Link


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reply posted on 4-10-2009 @ 03:59 AM by C0bzz


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The capabilities of that weapon in that rense article are complete fantasy. Not even something as powerful as ABL, a chemical laser that takes up the space of a 747, could do that. Also, lasers tend to not shrink human bodies to the size of newborn babies.

And it's Rense. I wonder how they come up with that stuff.

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reply posted on 4-10-2009 @ 04:05 AM by SLAYER69


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You know for the longest time I was all into this stuff. I remember seeing old defense dept videos on TV on what they had developed in the late 80s and early 90s from the SDI program and now Youtube and google searches come up blank.

I remember seeing them burn right through a missile housing etc.

I doubt it's the same system though.



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reply posted on 4-10-2009 @ 04:15 AM by C0bzz


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I was never into this stuff in the 1990s, however from what I have seen, none of this stuff has been silenced (and Youtube and Google seem to not be very good at this sort of thing).

www.nircm.com...

Picture of exhaust plume of large chemical laser in above link, and also the test on a booster.

www.defenceiq.com...
(need to register)

EDIT: Lots of it is obviously classified though...

www.deps.org...


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reply posted on 4-10-2009 @ 04:56 AM by SLAYER69


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I don't think the lack of info is deliberate. If I gave that impression then I apologize. I meant that nobody cares or is interested anymore.
This isn't what I was looking for but Jump to 6:50

YouTube Link



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reply posted on 4-10-2009 @ 04:57 AM by MurrayTORONTO


Originally posted by Retikx
wait till they integrate reflector satellites (if they haven't already) that can separate the beam into multiple beams and hit multiple ground and air targets at once. It is the ultimate deterrent, instantly frying an entire missile site or multiple ground based targets in a matter of moments.


I believe they already have something like this...if they have the technology to put it on a plane where they've stated it's too large to put on a fighter jet..space is endless, they probably have a giannnnt version of this orbiting but there is no way for us to know.



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reply posted on 4-10-2009 @ 06:45 PM by punkinworks


the atl is now a test bed for target aquisition and tracking.
The chemical laser has been replaced by solid state lasers



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