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(5:51) O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk.;
(9:14) Fight them! Allah will chastise them at your hands, and He will lay them low and give you victory over them, and He will heal the breasts of folk who are believers.”
(9:5) Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.;
(9:111) Lo! Allah hath bought from the believers their lives and their wealth because the Garden will be theirs: they shall fight in the way of Allah and shall slay and be slain. It is a promise which is binding on Him in the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur’an. Who fulfilleth His covenant better than Allah? Rejoice then in your bargain that ye have made, for that is the supreme triumph.;
I think that this whole discussion misses a crucial point. The conflict in the Middle East is not a religious one. It is over land. Period. Religion is only the excuse used to rouse the people to fight, but it has nothing to do with the causes of the fighting.
Originally posted by Beefcake
No you are missing the point. The point of this thread is the mainstream media claiming that Ahmadinejad is an Israeli. They are doing this to draw more parallels between him and Hitler, it is a psy-op to gain more support for war from the citizens of the world.
To add to the answers below - I understand that Hitler made a point of destroying the building that would have held his father's birth certificate so the proof one way of the other was destroyed. (History Channel Documentary)
a. In the case of any illegitimate child whose mother refuses to name the father one would expect the entry in the Register of Births to be unrevealing and simply state 'Father: unknown'. In other words, it would have been uninformative in this respect.
b. It is true that the building(s) and the churchyard were destroyed in 1938 on Hitler's orders. He was presumably was nervous about some possible 'dark secret'. However, it's anyone's guess what it was. There has, for example, been speculation about a history of incest or insanity in his family. Perhaps, for that matter, the entry had been tampered with, for example, when his father changed his name in 1876 from from Schicklgruber to Hitler. The 'standard' story about a Jew named Frankenberger in Graz as the paternal grandfather has been discredited. However, it has allowed devotees of psychohistory a field day.
c. Presumably the records were open to public inspection between the time when Hitler first hit the headlines and the Anschluss in 1938. In other words, oponents had already had 14-15 years to look for spicy information. - Joncey).
No. The Hitler family was Roman Catholic.
Hitler's grandfather was not Jewish. The standard version of the story focuses on Hitler's paternal grandfather. Hitler's father's mother is said to have worked as a maid for a Jew and there were rumours that Hitler's father was actually the employer's biological child. No evidence for this has ever been found.
Although there is no evidence that Hitler had a Jewish grandfather, supposedly his grandmother refused to reveal the identity of her child's father to her death. There was a suspicion that it was her Jewish employer, but there is no evidence of this, and Hitler certainly never spoke of it.
Hitler certainly hated Jews, as one can read in his book, 'Mein Kampf'. Most Austrian children were raised with a fear, mistrust and hatred of Jews, going back to medieval times, supported by the Catholic Church, that Hitler was born into. Hitler was filled with hatred towards many groups and people, and was a very angry man, as is obvious if you listen to his speeches.
Often suggested, sometimes claimed, but no established historian buys into what is probably just an urban legend.
There have been rumours that Hitler was one-quarter Jewish and that his paternal grandmother, Maria Schicklgruber, had become pregnant while working as a servant in a the household of a Graz Jew called Franberger. During the 1920s, the implications of these rumours along with his known family history were politically explosive, especially for the proponent of a racist ideology. Opponents tried to prove that Hitler, the leader of the anti-Semitic Nazi Party, had Jewish or Czech ancestors. Although these rumours were never confirmed, for Hitler they were reason enough to conceal his origins.
Ian Kershaw, "Hitler ...", Vol. 1, pp. 7-9 dismisses the story as nonsense. At the time when Hitler's grandmother worked as a servant in Graz for a family supposedly called Frankenberger (the 1830s) Jews were completely banned from living in Graz (and the whole province of Steiermark - Styria).
What's more, according to Kershaw, study of directories of Graz and the like for the 1830s and 1840s doesn't reveal any family called Frankenberger in Graz at all.
In other words, it's an urban legend.
Originally posted by Beefcake
The mainstream are actually taught that Hitler was Jewish in school no joke i don't know it its true but people think it.
It is all about comparing Ahmadinejad to Hitler facts are irrelevant its just how the mainstream spins things that matters.
As for Mr A and Hitler, well they do share a similar strategy. Deflection from internal corruption, mishandling and economic disparity
It's not exactly a big secret that the Iranians not only were actively involved with the Third Reich in promoting Jewsih hatred during WWII, they also have borrowed the same literature and rheotric from the neo-Nazi Holocaust Denial movement.
Originally posted by Harlequin
the USA networks keep pushing out his equally corrupt son as a replacement.
Originally posted by mmiichael
Israel has experienced a series of genocidal massed attacks by neighbouring Muslim countries. The lost these wars. I repeat, they lost these wars.
They came in to take control of Israel and didn't. What do you think they woulsd have done had they won?
The Palestinians have had decades to come to terms with the fact that the country Israel exist. They could have made homes there, gone about their businesses, done better than than their neighbours and have political leverage beyond victimhood. But that was their choice.
No one seems to whine and moan and seek retribution for millions of
Kurds refused a homeland. The Kurds being smart, work hard in their ne politically designated countries like Turkey, Iraq, Iran. They have power and are becoming prospersous. they don't sit in camps for half a century.
You try to kill people and take their land, you don't succeed, you have to live with the consequences of your actions and move on with making a life for yourself and your family. When the Palestinians come to terms that their Arab League handlers want them only like sacrificial lambs, and that the Israelis have made them a better offer - and it's happened on half a dozen junctures - maybe they can get on with their lives.
the European Jews tried to take over Palestine, the Zionist regime promised them the whole of Palestine (with Western help they managed to steal someone Else's land). If they try to come to my land I will fight them, resistance is the right every human has, the Palestinians are exercising that right. They have tried peace, they have tried protesting, history tell us that. Violence is the last resort, and they took that option after decades.
A close-up of the document reveals he was previously known as Sabourjian – a Jewish name meaning cloth weaver.
Originally posted by RRconservative
Does this mean since Barack Hussein Obama has a Muslim name that he is a Muslim?