Marines Invade Terra Alta West Virginia !

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posted on May, 16 2004 @ 05:32 PM
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"Troops , US Marines in Terra Alta West Virginia .
They say they are practicing . BUT , Im not sure because they are stopping traffic while carrying guns . They have scared the hell out of some people . Thats not good . Im afraid of some kind of accident . Right in town , they have set up machinegun nest s in peoples yards , running across lawns , playing war games in the streets in the middle of town . I have been hearing both blanks and live fire for the past three days . I know the difference , I was in the military myself . They are housing the troops in a condemned building that is full of ( Asbestos ) . It used to be a school house . Thats not good . Really dont know what to make of this . Jets going overhead every evening . Like being in Bagdad .
Choppers in the air ."

godlikeproductions.com.../16/04


[Edited on 16-5-2004 by The Quiet Storm]

[Edited on 17-5-2004 by John bull 1]




posted on May, 16 2004 @ 05:40 PM
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They are invading their own country ?



posted on May, 16 2004 @ 05:44 PM
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WOW! How strange. Doesn't the military have government lands to practice on?.... I imagine this
is scary. Keep us posted.



posted on May, 16 2004 @ 05:45 PM
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I think this will turn out to something big. Are these military preparing for a revolution? Are they preparing for a terrorist attack? I think not.

I think they are preparing for civil unrest as they are conditioning us to think it is "normal" to have military running around with guns, jumping out of helicopters, shooting blanks, and/or real bullets, stop traffic for no reason, disrupt school life and adult life, and search any house, any person they want to.

Could this be the beginning of America ending up in martial law? Or could this be the beginning of a revolution in the form of a civil war?

After all what they are doing IS illegal, and state police DO have the power to arrest the military, and after all it WILL be a major disruption for the lives of the people in those places where this is happening.

I think this will generate some chaotic things to happen.

WASHINGTON Amidst calls to use the military to fight the war on terrorism at home, some experts warn that allowing the military to perform a domestic role would set a dangerous precedent, put civilians at unnecessary risk and threaten Americans' basic civil liberties.

www.foxnews.com...



posted on May, 16 2004 @ 05:48 PM
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The military has its own urban training centers... Realize this is not for the training of the military, more for the desensitization/indoctrination of the public to /mil ops in our own towns...

Watch and record citizen reaction and also civil authority vs. .mil authority.. all part of the martial law scenario preps. - a poster at GLP



posted on May, 16 2004 @ 05:50 PM
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Originally posted by The Quiet Storm

After all what they are doing IS illegal, and state police DO have the power to arrest the military,



Are you sure about this? I've never heard of the police having the power to arrest the military.



posted on May, 16 2004 @ 05:53 PM
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Isn't the military under a different set of laws? I'm pretty sure the state police can't arrest military. But I could be wrong.



posted on May, 16 2004 @ 05:56 PM
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I am not sure about that, but this is what a poster at GLP has said:

"Do your Local Police know that if they tell them to leave that they HAVE TO? It is the law! and it was used to get the feds out of the Dalles in Oregon."

I DO KNOW though that this is illegal. I studied the bill of rights this year, and I remember reading a right that says we have the right to not let military take over our homes for any type of deal unless we approve of it. I KNOW for a fact that many people would not let the military inhabit their homes for their "practice".

I think if that would happen, George Dubya Bush would have to say "well, you are either with us or against us, that would make YOU a terrorist!"

And then.....!!!!!
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[Edited on 16-5-2004 by The Quiet Storm]

[Edited on 16-5-2004 by asala]



posted on May, 16 2004 @ 05:58 PM
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Originally posted by The Quiet Storm

After all what they are doing IS illegal, and state police DO have the power to arrest the military, and after all it WILL be a major disruption for the lives of the people in those places where this is happening.

So how do you figure this is illegal.
The US military does it all the time in the towns surrounding Fort Bragg and other such places.
As long as they have permission/notify the leadership of the town and the state national guard AG's office is made aware there isn't a problem.



posted on May, 16 2004 @ 06:00 PM
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Originally posted by IKnowNothing
Isn't the military under a different set of laws? I'm pretty sure the state police can't arrest military. But I could be wrong.


civil and federal authority is superior to the military, fbi and police can arrest military.



posted on May, 16 2004 @ 06:10 PM
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Well, first off, some of the posters at GLP have said that some of the people in the town were pretty shocked when it occur, so my assumption is that there may have been not enough notification.

Also, this is coming unexpected, there was not enough notification to react to it.

Perhaps the leaders of the town have been notified but the question is, have the people been properly notified?

I sure would get pretty mad if for 3 weeks I would have to keep hearing gunshots and see planes, helicopters humvees, soldiers disrupting my life, stopping traffic before getting to work, etc. etc. etc.

Plus, these soldiers will be using "blanks" as well as real bullets. All it takes is one soldier or civilian to be mistreated or shot "by mistake" to cause something huge to happen.

If I had a pistol on me and heard gunshots around me I would take out my pistol.... and that's when tensions would start to occur.

I think its safe to say that this is a psyop also with hidden agendas behind it all. We'll see how this goes on. Sources say this will go on for 3 weeks.

[Edited on 16-5-2004 by The Quiet Storm]



posted on May, 16 2004 @ 06:43 PM
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I can see both sides of this, it could be good. And yes
it's easy for me to say,they're not stomping around my yard. If one day,... and yes, it's possibly, the terriorist sleeper cells Wake.. then these guys will be protecting us.



posted on May, 16 2004 @ 07:40 PM
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Likely a preparatory test to see how well the military could handle civil unrest, get them used to the masses of people, and put them in nearly complete control, get them used to the real environment, then if this test is successful, it will be massively employed, and then the government will feel it is fully ready for any civil unrest.

Well, that's cool logic - I honestly think this is where JT's story takes a serious swing into reality.



posted on May, 16 2004 @ 08:01 PM
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umm, who is JT, and where can I find this story?

BTW, everwhere I am reading about an acronym known as PBT, or PTB. Now my question is, what does it mean?



posted on May, 16 2004 @ 08:05 PM
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Guys, this is Godlike Productions, a site which has been known to support and produce hoaxers (like all the planet x hoaxers last year.)

You might note that NO paper in the state is reporting this. Before you shriek "government hush-up" do remember that they apparently are NOT controlling anything. Otherwise the hysterics couldn't leap on the BBS and scream things.

They're not ocntrolling access in and out, because people are obviously driving in and out.

Their DSL is also up.

And their local news reports nothing:
www.topix.net...



posted on May, 16 2004 @ 08:32 PM
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How would we know that the news haven't been covered up? J/k It is a possibility though. If we could get in contact with someone who lives there then we would be able to tell if it is a hoax or not.



posted on May, 16 2004 @ 08:41 PM
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wtf?!?!?!?! it's like pwning themselves. they're suppose to be pwning others!!!! what kind of sick twisted war game is this and where do i go to sign up?



posted on May, 16 2004 @ 08:49 PM
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WOW!!!

the gullibility factor is about 9.9 in here....



posted on May, 16 2004 @ 08:49 PM
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www.dominionpost.com...

- There, took me a while.

Godlike productions had an earlier post on it that referred the Dominion post as a source, I found that article. Here's the topic containing it, but the actual links are nearer the bottom..


Re: Covert Mission Marines to "flood" Morgantown WV to simulate Urban Combat they might face.

Since no one bothered to post the actual link to the OPs original article, here it is:

www.dominionpost.com...

And here are more articles from the Dominion:

Brief article with photo of Cobra:
www.dominionpost.com...

Reactions mixed over Marine training in the area:
www.dominionpost.com...

An article about WVs most infamous daughter, Lynndie England:
www.dominionpost.com...

Marines land for first simulated mission:
www.dominionpost.com...

Marines deployed:
www.dominionpost.com...

Marines raid Fairmont during mock drill:
www.dominionpost.com...

Marines clean up Fairmont:
www.dominionpost.com...

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And, THE most important article of all:

www.dominionpost.com...

Dawson to anchor training

Preston camp to serve as homeland security hub
The Dominion Post

The U.S. National Guard Bureau has selected Camp Dawson in Preston County as one of the signature homeland security training facilities in the nation, U.S. Senator Robert C. Byrd, D-W.Va., announced Wednesday.

The new facility will be known as the National Guard Joint Training Center. It will be one of two such national centers. The second will be in the western U.S. at a site yet to be determined.

Camp Dawson is the states premier National Guard training facility. The additional designation will increase the camps mission, increase the number of men and women arriving for training, and mean more jobs for -- as well as demand on -- the neighboring Preston County communities.

The U.S. National Guard Bureaus decision was hailed by Byrd as a testament to the hard work and dedication of the West Virginia National Guard "and the effort that they have put forward to make West Virginia a national leader in homeland security training."

"West Virginia will set the standard for homeland security training for the rest of America to follow," he added. "Now, we will be able to share the expertise and the lessons learned in West Virginia with the rest of the country."

"The states security expertise has been accomplished through partnerships between the federal government, the National Guard, the state Office of Emergency Services, and WVU."

Byrd, the top Democrat on the Senate Homeland Security Appropriations panel and a senior member of the Senate Armed Services Emerging Threats Subcommittee, has worked closely with state Adjutant General Allen Tackett to develop key training facilities in the Mountain State.

In addition to Camp Dawson, there is the Center for National Response at the Memorial Tunnel in Kanawha County, and WVUs Virtual Medical Campus. Byrd has added more than $43 million to federal appropriations bills to develop these initiatives.

"Long before Sept. 11, 2001, the West Virginia National Guard had launched its efforts with Senator Byrd to create the best training facilities in the nation, facilities that could be adapted to any scenario," Tackett said. "That hard work has resulted in solid successes, and now we prepare to open a new chapter in our efforts."

Byrd met Wednesday in his Capitol office with Lt. Gen. H. Steven Blum, chief of the National Guard Bureau. For several weeks, the National Guard has been evaluating homeland security and other specialized training needs for the Guard and for emergency responders.

"Camp Dawson and the other West Virginia homeland security facilities place it among the top tier of training programs," Blum said. "The National Guard will build on the expertise and assets already in place at the Robert C. Byrd Regional Training Institute at Camp Dawson to create one of a very select group of comprehensive homeland defense training facilities."

Tackett noted that the facility will serve the training needs of other federal agencies, including Department of Homeland Security and the Department of Defense, as well as be a valuable resource for emergency responders and other state and local agencies.


And that, as they say, is the story behind the story...


There, big long thing found in that topic, here's the topics link: godlikeproductions.com.../14/04

That oughtta fix it.

EDIT: The Dominion post seems to be an official paper of Morgantown, WV. - That's the other town undergoing the operation.

[Edited on 16-5-2004 by Viendin]



posted on May, 16 2004 @ 08:54 PM
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Hey Byrd are you trying to ingrain into people's heads that GLP produces AND supports hoaxers! We haven't seen that for ourselves yet, so why try to make it popular belief that GLP does this when others havent decided yet for themselves whether GLP does or not? Oh yes, and also, thanks for trying to spread the beleif that the government doesn't control the media again disreguarding the fact that there are people which DO have their own minds and can think for themselves and make their own opinions on those things.

Now, onto my post......

West Virginia will set the standard for homeland security training for the rest of America to follow, said Byrd, the top Democrat on the Senate Homeland Security Appropriations panel and a senior member of the Senate Armed Services Emerging Threats Subcommittee. By training today, we can save lives tomorrow.

"Camp Dawson mission to expand"
www.armytimes.com...

Byrd, are you the same Byrd that is in this news article which I have found in the website you have provided?

Also Byrd, could you please explain these articles?

Marines Arrive in Morgantown (please excuse me for the excessive quoting, no link to article was revealed)

Arriving in waves over the past few days, the last of 1,700 members of the 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit out of Camp LeJune, N.C., washed into Camp Dawson last night.

The MEU is a special operations unit made up of 2,200 soldiers that perform classified, covert missions for the U.S. government. The 24th MEU is one of only three in the world.

For about the next three weeks, the Marines will flood abandoned buildings in downtown Morgantown, downtown Fairmont and surrounding areas to simulate urban combat situations they could encounter on deployment.

When they hit the streets, the Marines will be wearing full combat gear and hopping in and out of helicopters as part of their exercises.

Morgantown residents will also hear gunshots -- most of which will be blanks. Any live ammunition will be fired very sparingly into a bullet trap that will catch the shell and prevent it from exploding and causing any possible injuries, according to MEU C apt. David Nevers.

Staff Sgt. Demetrio Espinosa, public affairs chief for the MEU, said that while they are here, however, the main goal of the Marines is to make as few waves as possible.

"Were working very closely with (the city government and the staff at Camp Dawson) to make sure this training goes as smoothly as possible," Espinosa said.

Bit by bit, the MEU brought two-three medium-lift helicopters called CH-46 Sean Knights to transport the Marines, two-three CH-53 helicopters to transport vehicles and a couple of Cobra helicopters to provide artillery and ammunition to the soldiers during the drills.

"The CH-53 is one of the biggest helicopters in the world," Espinosa said.

He said they also brought along a couple Humvees, food and a supply of MK-19 machine gun grenade launchers, assault rifles and 9mm pistols.

"Right now, were getting everything ready to start training here at Camp Dawson. We wont be in town until next week sometime," Espinosa said.

He also said the Marines have training every day but one. However, he said he does not know if they will be given liberty to leave Camp Dawson.

Morgantown Mayor Ron Justice said he expects life to go on as usual -- except for the occasional sightings of the Marines.

"In a sense, troops are in and out of Camp Dawson all the time," Justice said. "Anything that the Marines would do that would impact the city, the people will have plenty of notification about."

Justice said the MEU will have one nighttime raid in a student-population area, but it will be done after WVUs May 16 convocation and after most of the students have left town.

Espinosa said a definite schedule of raids is not yet set because the element of surprise is part of the training, but he said residents will be given plenty of advance notice.



Jamie Henline
The Dominion Post
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What about this? (again no link was provided sorry for the excessive quotes, but these articles can all be found in GLP, though people wouldn't look for these articles there if "Byrd" is here "debunking" all of GLP for us rather than letting us see it for ourselves, and make our own decisions about it. I don't Byrd should have suggested a beleif onto the posters here on ATS that's all. )

Federal Government Tests Continuity of Operations Plans

Exercise intended to enhance national readiness

For Immediate Release
Press Office
Contact: 202-282-8010
May 13, 2004

Fact Sheet: Forward Challenge 04

The Department of Homeland Security and more than 40 other agencies are testing their continuity of operations (COOP) plans during Forward Challenge 04 (FC 04), a two day exercise May 12-13.

The exercise is a full-scale, scenario-based event in which Federal departments and agencies are implementing COOP plans, deploying pre-designated personnel and leadership at alternate sites away from the National Capital Region and performing essential functions at those locations.

In order to ensure Federal departments and agencies are prepared to continue essential operations during any type of threat or emergency, DHS maintains an active program of planning, testing, training and evaluation of the Federal Executive Branch COOP program. Forward Challenge 04 tests the federal governments readiness to respond and ability to resume critical operations during an emergency situation.

"This is the first-time that the Federal government has conducted a government-wide test of its continuity of operations plans," said Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge. "This exercise provides a unique opportunity for the federal government to evaluate and refine its operational readiness to ensure that officials in federal departments and agencies can function away from their normal headquarters and make response decisions in the event of an emergency incident."

FC 04 is being directed by Homeland Securitys Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) and is designed for departments and agencies to demonstrate the ability to fulfill critical agency tasks while away from the normal work site. The critical agency tasks include: establishing an operational capability at an alternate facility; implementing succession and delegation of authority plans; demonstrating an interoperable communications capability; demonstrating redundant communication capabilities; and demonstrating the ability to access the vital records that they would need to conduct essential functions from their remote location.

FC 04 provides the framework for testing interoperability and interconnectivity between departments and agencies from COOP sites scattered throughout many states and regions and will ensure compliance with the requirement to engage in continuity of operations activities.

In the exercise scenario, federal officials are faced with emergencies and events that affect their abilities to carry out essential functions. Although FC 04s terrorism-based scenario is realistic, it is not based on specific intelligence.

Under the FC 04 scenario, all federal government-occupied buildings simulate closure as a result of the combination of events and credible threats of actions from various terrorist groups and individuals. Every major department and agency in the National Capital Region is scheduled to participate in Forward Challenge 04.

The Department of Homeland Security will provide photos and video footage of the Forward Challenge 04 exercise. Photos may be found online at www.photolibrary.fema.gov.... The satellite coordinates for this feed are:

Time: 15:30 - 16:00 EDT
Satellite: AMC9C (C-Band) (Old GE2, AMC2) @ 85 degrees West
Transponder: 22
Downlink: 4140 Horizontal

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And guess where Bush is? West Virginia! Now this one I have a link for wvgazette.com...

Also: www.foxnews.com...

usgovinfo.about.com...

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