Originally posted by mattpryor
reply to post by SkurkNilsen
I think it's extremely disrespectful to turn the Holocaust into a "who got killed the most" debate.
Millions suffered and millions perished. If gays, gypsies or disabled people felt they would never be safe as a people until they had their own
defensible borders and somewhere to escape to, then I would wish them luck. They don't.
The Holocaust is not the reason for Israel's existence since Zionist immigration began in the 1800s. It was the catalyst that gave the creation of a
state as a legal entity a sense of urgency, combined with the fact that the British and Arabs were actively involved in preventing immigration to
Israel during the holocaust, resulting in many unnecessary deaths.
And if my family and friends had been murdered by a fanatical Jew hating dictator I think I'd be quite angry when another one addressed the UN
claiming it didn't happen. Wouldn't you?
When and how do I turn it into a "who got killed the most" debate, Ahmadinejad has stated that there were other victims of the holocaust than Jews
and that the numbers are exaggerated, this has then been screwed in to "Ahmadinejad denies the holocaust happened".
Just like "Ahmadiejad wants to wipe Israel off the map", you know it's not true just as well as I do.
Anyway, If you read Ahmadinejad's adress to the General Assembly you know that in no way did he say or imply the holocaust never happened, but
Netanyahoo propably didn't hear that, seeing how he walked out just to come in and wave papers stating the holocaust is real. Always a great way to
gather info, don't listen to the other side, something you seem to be good at as well.
The Israeli state got into existence as a direct consequence of the atrocities during WWII, I thought the Jewish people would feel safe without their
own defensible borders after the nazi's were brought down.
But I am obviously wrong, and all homosexuals are free to live their life without being harassed ever by crazy religious nutters....
However I do support the Israeli state's existence, but the fact of their constant abuse of power I will never tolerate whatever lie you want to
tell.
And to the guy denying the holocaust, please, there are a lot of conspiracies around, but this one is one you should just step down on.
Revisionism perhaps, but denial, never!