Netanyahu to the UN: Must watch, page 1
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reply posted on 2-10-2009 @ 08:37 AM by heineken
also..i know it sounds crazy since i couldnt imagine that it might be that the holocaust never happened but when thinking firmly about it...


lets take other examples...

i dont know other countries but here in Malta since we are a small island we swim alot....i never met somebody who is not afraid of swimming offshore since he watched the film Jaws in early childhood...now we have many scientists showing data and studies that the shark is not the man eating killing machine portaited in the film jaws...still all are skeptic and well ok..scientist say its different and that you got more chance to die from a dog than a shark but still the film is in your mind...the music of the film...the filming from beneath showing you swimming innocently...the young being eaten....the Shark reputation was damaged for ever

now if you got my point...Holocaust movies were all Top sellers from which I too used to say wow how much they suffered etc etc...dont forget the biggest holocaust film ever Schindler's list by the same Jaws author (btw he is a Jew) Spielberg...but till date that is all we got..MOVIES

No to conclude..i beleive there are more important things to be discussed at the UN by Isarel, The Settlement in Palestine, Theior Illegal Nuclear Activity, Their involvment in Iran's election, and their war propaganda and Bad Information on Iraq and Iran other than presenting some papers as a smoking gun evidence...

WE DONT care if the holocaust happened or not now..neither can be prooved...what we want is that Isarel confirm with the UN regulations...To stop killing Palestinians for acquiring land and not provoke a World War 3 which effect us all



reply posted on 2-10-2009 @ 09:26 AM by mattpryor
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Heineken, seriously, I think you need to go back to school.

Is this a lie?



There is massive amounts of evidence for the holocaust. The Nazis were meticulous about bureaucracy and everything is written down. It's all there for you to research.

There is a difference between "there isn't enough evidence" and "I can't be bothered to look at the evidence".


reply posted on 2-10-2009 @ 09:48 AM by Drunkenshrew
Well, I must admit Mr. Netanyahu made a good speech. But similar to Obama, there is not much truth to be found behind his good oratory skills. Action speaks louder than words. Read the Goldstone report for yourselves.

www2.ohchr.org...

I trust the jewish peace and human rights movement more, than the warmongering of a politician or the propaganda of megaphone. Look a the statistics prior to the Gazan war:

www.btselem.org...

Watch Occupation 101 to find out, why Palestinians react the way they do.

video.google.com...#

Iran may sponsor Hamas and Hezbollah, but so does the west fund the terror group Jundallah and other Iranian opposition groups. Typical western hypocrisy.

en.wikipedia.org...

N. states as fact, that the Iranian elections were rigged. Here is another opinion based on research:

atheonews.blogspot.com...

N. equates the Iranian regime with barbarism, while himself claiming to stand for a democratic, civilized and peaceful country. How many wars of the 20th century have been started by Iranians? How many by Israelis? Who used deception in many false flag attacks? Operation Susannah and the attack on the USS Liberty are only two among many.

en.wikipedia.org...
en.wikipedia.org...

Remember Operation Opera: Israel launched a surprise attack at the Iraqi atomic reactor in Osirak. The Israeli claim, that this was an enrichment facility for plutonium was later debunked. Propaganda tried to spin another story. How many times must history repeat itself?

en.wikipedia.org...

Now Israel and the US may try the same in Iran. Like in Irak the IAEA findings are discounted. The Media is in full fear- and warmongering mode. Only few sane voices like Glenn Greenwald counter these scare tactics.

www.youtube.com...
www.salon.com...

"Will you stand with Israel, or will you stand with the terrorists?" - Where have I heard this kind of rhetoric before? I remember George W. Bush used similar words and lies to push the world into two unjust wars. Remember Colin Powells "evidence based" proof before the UN. Don't fall for lies aimed at demonising other people. Maybe the things you think to know about Iran are not true.

www.abovetopsecret.com...


reply posted on 2-10-2009 @ 09:59 AM by heineken
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are you insulting me?...y this attitude dude

for me as i told before those pictures are of people who died from desease not gassing..they got clothes on them..your movies showed they were all naked whilst being gassed....and thats the only evidence we have...movies

i can see than form the photo you included that youwaste your time uploading in the media...and posting here hahahah..your smoking gun il like Netanyahu's..BS

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reply posted on 2-10-2009 @ 10:21 AM by mattpryor
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They weren't all gassed.

Some didn't make it to the concentration camps. On average 50 or 60 would die on every cattle train on the way there.

Some were shot in the head. They were often made to kneel over the pits so that their bodies fell straight into the mass graves. In those incidents the Nazis were so particular that the bullet holes were placed exactly the same spots on every skull for maximum efficiency.

In the Ukraine in 1942 they invented a very efficient way of liquidating babies - they were dropped from hospital windows. Some soldiers played a game where they caught them on their bayonets.

Others were killed by exhaustion from forced labour.

Others just starved to death.

It is a depraved and disgusting chapter in European history. To deny it or belittle it is just plain evil and is essentially p*ssing on the memory of those that were killed.

Shame on you.


reply posted on 2-10-2009 @ 10:44 AM by heineken
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jews in malta???....you can find them everywhere....and malta was no volunteer..we were under the bristish...and i couldnt find this story anywhere sry

the thing is i used to be pitty for you until i DID research..then the truth started to emerge...

have a nice vid in the meantime....



if you like i have many but many more


reply posted on 2-10-2009 @ 11:39 AM by Selahobed
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Whoahhhhaa!
Its a little early on friday to feel like kicking off, and as a christian i should turn other other cheek, but sometimes some people deserve a righteous slap!!!

My uncle ben and his family was in one of those imaginary concentration camps. His sister was murdered in one of those imaginary gas chambers at belsan. My grandad help liberate one of these imaginary false places and was plagued by nightmares about it his whole life! He married one of those imaginary jewish survivors, who also had an imaginary tattoo on her arm, and her imaginary brother told me false stories of what it meant to be a Juden in nazi berlin, being forced to strip of naked-men and women- and being made to walk around in a park on a leash being forced to bark like a dog, whilst the women-who were naked-had to sit in the branches of trees and forced to tweet like birds!!! Sure.... its all made up isnt it? It never really happened huh?
Much like me visiting friends in Israel at Sderot and spending lots of imaginary time in bomb shelters and speaking to babies, who spend most of there lives in a living hell, having major anxiety attacks-thats right young babies having panic attacks and other assorted imaginary psycological disorders because of those thousands of imaginary rockets being fired on kids and old people just trying to get on with life.
Having saying that though, what do you expect from a people who were lead by a none arab (yasser arrafat was macedonian) who was in the hitler youth-Fact!
So i suggest you get from behind your computer, stop listening to liberal left wing crap, and go to israel yourself, you may be for a nasty shock!!!

I love Bibi Netenyahu, good post Matt


reply posted on 2-10-2009 @ 11:48 AM by mattpryor
reply to post by Selahobed



I'm so glad you turned up, and I'm very sorry to hear about your family's tragedies.

Holocaust denial is a manifestation of unforgivable ignorance and stupidity, especially for a Westerner with access to educational resources and the internet. I never fail to be shocked and upset to hear people spout this rubbish.

ATS used to be a nice place to be, nowadays it tends to be pretty unpleasant.


reply posted on 2-10-2009 @ 11:59 AM by mattpryor
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I do find it intriguing that there was sooo much coverage of Ahmadinnerjacket and Gaddafi's speeches, and Obama's, but this got no coverage at all in the UK.

No matter which side of the fence you're on with regards to Israel / Palestinians / Iran debate, surely this is important?


reply posted on 2-10-2009 @ 01:15 PM by heineken
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i have uncles who died too but we never invaded any land..i never said people didnt die their...just do you have an autopsy report?...no...for me it could be because of the dease...and regarding the tatoo..who said theydont exists?...but..who say that they are proof of 6,000,000 dead???

FREE PASLESTINE


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reply posted on 2-10-2009 @ 01:22 PM by heineken
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how weak do you expect me to be???...to you think i'll lay down for you to cross over because of your uncle ben's story ??...the world is changing...thats why Ahmadinejad is getting more attention....Now its time to talk about Israelis NUclear Weapons and Gaza Settlement...yes time is changing


reply posted on 2-10-2009 @ 02:37 PM by Selahobed
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I dont care whether you lay down, or are weak. I dont care that you think that 6 million corpses are not producing methane gas in their mass graves that is even warming the ground with which they are buried. And further more, i will not take ANY bs from someone who reads a libreral article in the guardian or the web and think they are all knowing when it comes to the middle east issue, without even going there themselves. Pathetic!
And you slight my family sir/madame. Mannnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!
People who i know to be of great integrity, who havent been manipulated by the guardian but was actually there! Plus other stuff like the rocket attacks i have witnessed with my own eyes from gaza.
As for denying the holocaust? Mannnnnn you have no idea how much i ............ Anyway, ben was in qite good condition physically so was used for forced labour, his sister was just just a kid and deemed a useless eater by the fascist/socialist/nazis and was gassed.
Like cattle they were herded up and taken to celle, an ss camp, where they were divided into workers or useless eaters. They were then shipped to belsan by train up the road
Honhe. where thay were raped, striped of their wordly posessions and gassed.
After the liberation, the local people were forced marched into belsan by the allies so they could see what they allowed. Btw Bergan/Belsan still suffers high rate of cancer dur to the ammounts of carcigens in the air and oxidents caused through the gassing of all of these people.
Even now, not a bird flies over the place, and when you touch the mass grave, they are warm with the gasses of the dead.

And to top that, that is my family history sunshine, and i do not appreciate better people than you being called liars!!!!!!!!!

Its a bit like saying there was no historical eveidence for princess diana.

Mannnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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