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reply posted on 2-10-2009 @ 07:42 AM by Yossarian
Tony Blair 'in line for EU presidency'

Tony Blair 'in line for EU presidency'#


Tony Blair could become the first President of Europe within weeks if the Irish vote in favour of the Lisbon Treaty, it has been suggested. The former Prime Minister is favourite to take up the new post, which would be created if the European Constitution is ratified by all 27 EU member states


Interesting. What do you all think of this? All conjecture of course for the moment but what implications could this have?


reply posted on 2-10-2009 @ 07:45 AM by Alternative Thinker
Originally posted by Yossarian
Tony Blair 'in line for EU presidency'

Tony Blair 'in line for EU presidency'#


Tony Blair could become the first President of Europe within weeks if the Irish vote in favour of the Lisbon Treaty, it has been suggested. The former Prime Minister is favourite to take up the new post, which would be created if the European Constitution is ratified by all 27 EU member states


Interesting. What do you all think of this? All conjecture of course for the moment but what implications could this have?


Blair of course! A high ranking member of the different secret sociaties, and always loyal to the elite. Surely a perfect candidate for that paticular job


reply posted on 2-10-2009 @ 07:45 AM by Mikey84
Originally posted by Yossarian
Tony Blair 'in line for EU presidency'

Tony Blair 'in line for EU presidency'#


Tony Blair could become the first President of Europe within weeks if the Irish vote in favour of the Lisbon Treaty, it has been suggested. The former Prime Minister is favourite to take up the new post, which would be created if the European Constitution is ratified by all 27 EU member states


Interesting. What do you all think of this? All conjecture of course for the moment but what implications could this have?


That’s all old news, several threads going about him getting it.

But again, if the treaty get’s in, there won’t be a “President of Europe” (that’s a name the media has been using). There will be a more permanent president to the European Council (two and a half year term). Instead of the current 6 month rotation system.

Mikey


[edit on 2/10/2009 by Mikey84]


reply posted on 2-10-2009 @ 07:51 AM by pieman
reply to post by Yossarian



it seems to have come out in the euro skeptic english media after the moratorium on the irish media took effect. it looks like an attempt to stir up republican sentiment to swing the vote to no.

last i heard, blair hadn't a chance of getting it.

the EU president doesn't have a very defined role yet, no-one really knows what the job will entail.



reply posted on 2-10-2009 @ 08:00 AM by Mikey84
Originally posted by Yossarian
Will the president of the EU Council not be a European President for all intents and purposes?


Yes and no. Just like the power of president of the USA is completly different to the power of the President of Ireland.

The president is not granted any formal power, but he or she would "chair and drive forward [the work of the European Council]" and take part in the representation of the common foreign policy of the EU on the world stage.

If ratified the new President of the European Council would be elected for a two and a half year term. The election would take place by a qualified majority among the members of the body, and the President can be removed by the same procedure.

Unlike the President of the European Commission, there is no required approval from the European Parliament. The President's work would be largely administrative in coordinating the work of the Council and organising the meeting. It does however offer external representation of the council and the Union and reports to the European Parliament after Council meetings and at the beginning and end of his or her term.

In many newspapers this new post is being called "President of Europe".

The current post of President-in-Office of the European Council is chaired by the head of government (or state) of the country holding the presidency of the European Union which rotates every six months.

Wikipedia gives a general basic idea, or you can read the actual treaty of Lisbon, lol.... here:

President of the European Council

Treaty of Lisbon Council Details

Actual Treaty of Lisbon

Mikey


[edit on 2/10/2009 by Mikey84]


reply posted on 2-10-2009 @ 10:44 AM by Drunkenshrew
I fear, that the Irish will fail this time to say NO to the Lisbon treaty. Due to the current crisis many Irish will be more cautious. "We must stand together and give a unified response to the economic challenge" will convince many to vote this time with YES.

The constitution - pardon treaty will smooth the way to more centralisation of power. More decisions will be made by technocrats. Citizens and the elected governments will have less and less to say. The number of Lobbyists as well as the text of treaty will guarantee, that the future Europe will be an Europe of the corporations and not of the citizens. Audio from David Icke:

irishsideofthemoon.blogspot.com...

What kind of politics are to be expected in the future? Read the leaked EUISS document: "What ambitions for Europeans defence in 2020?" Unlike the unreadable treaty it is written in an understandable language. It is an open call for imperialistic policies. Interventionalist strategies are to be applied to secure ressources and western interests.

88.80.16.63...

For the German speaking - watch this:

www.youtube.com...

Maybe the Czech president Vaclav Klaus can stall this for a while, before he is forced to sign the treaty.

[edit on 2-10-2009 by Drunkenshrew]


reply posted on 2-10-2009 @ 03:38 PM by mars1
As soon as i started watching this in the morning on the news they were all saying it will be a yes not one person did i here say it will be a no.
Lets look at the last vote.


Irish voters have rejected the Lisbon Treaty.
With results in from all 43 constituencies, the Lisbon Treaty has been defeated by a margin of 53.4% to 46.6%.

From www.rte.ie...
Have you seen this.


The Vatican has made an unexpected last-minute intervention on the eve of Ireland's Lisbon Treaty referendum with a warning the European Union threatens the country's "identity, traditions and history".

From www.telegraph.co.uk...
I hope they vote NO but i just got this feeling it will be yes which is sad becouse we did not have the chance to vote.

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