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Originally posted by oozyism
Osama denies any responsibility, Mullah Omar states that Osama was under his guidance, if he was behind it we would know (that is why he asked for evidence). So basically you bombed the hell out of an already bombed nation.
In the ten minute recording the voice which is purported to be that of America's most wanted terrorist, says the U.S. president is "powerless" to stop the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. The authenticity of the audio recording could not be independently verified.
The message was released by As-Sahab, Al-Qaeda's media wing, and distributed to several Jihadist websites. Part of the taped message condemns the United States support of Israel.
"We have already shown, and we have stated many times in more than two decades since the start of our disagreement with you, which is caused by your support for the Israelis who are occupying our land of Palestine, and which led us to carry out the events on September 11, 2001,"
"To the American people, this is my message to you: a reminder of the reasons behind 9/11 and the wars and the repercussions that followed and the way to resolve it," the message said.
"From the beginning, we have stated many times ... that the cause of our disagreement with you is your support of your allies, the Israelis, who are occupying our land in Palestine. Your stance along with some other grievances are what led us to carry out the events of 9/11."
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Originally posted by RankRancid
Reply to post by oozyism
Who are you to say how humans act? Don't know if you have even left your house. Also don't go running to the mods the second your back is against the wall. Doesn't make you look good. It's even more pathetic that you think a man that has a beard doesn't have a brain. Can you also please choose a side if you want to argue this. They can't be the pure and enlightened ones whilst being a retard with a beard now can they?
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Total Spending $859-$1160 billion
Missile Defense $8.8 Bil.
F-35 Joint Strike Fighter $6.1 Bil.
NASA, satellites $3.5-$8.8 billion
The overall US intelligence budget has been considered classified until recently.
..2005, said the annual intelligence budget was $44 billion.
The MODS need to be fair. A productive discussion won't rise if they block certain views. That is not what I call progress.
Originally posted by TacoBellMakesGas
reply to post by oozyism
Wel dont get yourself in a huff. You asked my opinion and I gave you an honest one, but if it makes you feel better I will lie.
I am amazed to find the real truth and to know that the hijakers are alive and well and doing interviews with Oprah. I cant believe our government lied to us.
There does that make you feel bettter?
Originally posted by TacoBellMakesGas
reply to post by oozyism
So its ok if they block any views that disagree with yours, so that is what you called progress? Go figure.
As far as I can tell they havent blocked any of your views and none of us that disagree with you have asked them too.
I just disagree with your view that somehow our jihadist ENEMIES need our prayers or are even worthy of them.
[edit on 1-10-2009 by TacoBellMakesGas]
Some pilot dropping a JDAM from miles in the sky, to some 19 year old 11 Bang-Bang driving a bayonet into his guts. As long as that smelly bearded guy is dead, I'm happy.
Originally posted by TacoBellMakesGas
reply to post by oozyism
I dont believe 911 was orchestrated by our government to start a war in Afghanistan, and no one has produced any proof to convince me otherwise. I believe that a bunch of terrorists commited the acts of 911 just like they bombed our ship, bombed our embassies, etc.
Originally posted by RankRancid
Reply to post by oozyism
Ok granted I'm on my mobile I can't see if there have been any off topic or t&c violations but I haven't seen anyone attacking you. This argument has nothing to do with the money. We are talking about 2 groups and the way they handle themselves and more importantly innocents. Even though in this day and age an innocent might actually be hard to come by. I don't care for america much but I would side with satan or hitler before trying to stand up for suicide bombers. That mentality I will never ever understand. Killing yourself should never ever be a way out. Killing yourself and other people(some soldiers,mainly innocent bystanders) is a cowards way out. I think I'm slowly starting to repeat myself here so good luck with this thread...Rank...Over and Out
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Originally posted by RankRancid
Reply to post by oozyism
Any man that has the balls to arm up and walk into battle for people he is protecting deserves respect. Cowards that kill themselves and innocent people deserve nothing except 17 crazy moaning chicks. I'd swap all the virgins for one dirty skank as long as she leaves me to myself. Another mans dream is the other mans nightmare. Lol it had to be a man of religion that came up with that one. Clearly hasn't spent time with 1 female let alone 17 or was it 70?
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An organization which has no political affiliation and which is fundamentalist in nature and which carries out attacks on innocent civilians (again, is driving a car bomb into a CIVILIAN market not PURPOSEFULLY targeting civilians?)
Fourteen Iraqis were reported killed and five injured early yesterday morning after an American war plane obliterated a family house in the north of the country. The military said it was a mistake.
I mean, they are killing Iraqi's and now Afghans let alone over three thousand innocent civilians (or wait - your going to say working is EVIL) on 9/11 Which part of killing innocent civillians do you not understand? Are you denying this?
Yes, AlJazeera has repeatedly covered the al-qaeda massacres across Iraq (now they are spreading their non-terroristic love in Afghanistan) Hmmm. A group that moves from county to country atttempting to destabilize and then institute a barbaric form of Dark Ages proportions is not a terrorist group.
Ron Paul's argument that the united states was attacked due to its historical intervention in the middle east
The creation of this group and many of our problems was our own CIA doings, of course. The qaed' has been blamed for things they didn't do - they have been used as stooges - but that doesn't excuse reality.
What is going on is an armed struggle between ideaological zealots and the US - this thread regards the standards of the qaed', and not the US - that is a whole nother thing. This band of idiots is not liberating anyone, and they kill whoever they please to show how tough they are.
They are thugs, once long ago in a land far away armed by the USA - but now we battle them.
I am angry we are in Iraq. I am angry I witnessed first hand 9/11 and the unimaginable horror of thousands of people wiped off the map
- many of whom I saw with my OWN GOD DAMNED EYES plummet to the earth from 80 stories up only to land feet from where I stood. They are terrorists, make no doubt about it.
Now, lets start the thread about the theory that the US is the biggest terrorist out there and I will respond there, at least with some intelligence. Geeze, Al Qaeda not a terrorist organization? What are they, the Tabernacle Choir?
Originally posted by RankRancid
Reply to post by oozyism
I do it for money. I am shallow. I can't speak for anyone else on this thread.
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Originally posted by TacoBellMakesGas
reply to post by oozyism
I dont really give a flying rip why they want to kill innocent people, but I know they want to kill them and so therefore they must die first.
Why do you think the Jihadists are fighting you? Do you believe it is because they want virgins or because they want everyone to be Muslims? Or because they just hate you?
Al Qaeda No. 2: We don't kill innocents
Three children and two women were killed when missiles fired by a suspected unmanned US aircraft hit a village on the Pakistan-Afghanistan border Friday in the third such attack in as many days, officials said.