Originally posted by John_Q_Llama
Originally posted by sticky
reply to post by John_Q_Llama
There isn't anything we can do about the collapse. It is going to happen. I know that everyone doesn't believe everything I do about what's going
on in the world around us. My beliefs aren't dependent on yours, thank goodness
I suggest you dig for truth. It is very liberating.
And yes, even this is connected to it.
Please, enlighten us with this truth you mentioned.
I am well aware that we cannot do anything about the collapse. But that doesn't mean we, the common citizen, are dismissed from the moral obligation
to do what is right.
You expressed a gladness that your beliefs aren't dependent on mine. Well I have to express a gladness that my moral compass isn't dependent on
yours. It is my belief that credit cards and debt are terrible things that has allowed me to stay away from both for my entire life. I am very
careful, responsible, and frugal with my money, and I only spend the money that I possess or, on the two occasions I did have loans, I was very very
cautious in determining whether or not I'd even be able to pay them off within a year. Right now I can say without a doubt that my wary view of
credit, along with my high level of responsibility in spending my own money, have proven to be well worth it. I've been out of work for almost a year
now and still have plenty of money set aside to continue living the way I have been since I began living on my own in the "real world". So I fail to
see how my beliefs, my being responsible, and my distaste for debt and credit are somehow wrong if they've helped me to stay out of financial
I'm not trying to pick a fight with you, Sticky. I respect you and your beliefs, whatever they might be. But just try to realize that perhaps there
are other views which might make sense as well. Whatever the case, I do agree that the credit industry needs a good kick in the crotch, and then a
couple hard cracks to the back of the head while doubled over in pain. My way to keep em dissatisfied is not to use credit, while yours happens to be
much different. Nothing wrong with that.
The truth is that, 2012 was known to ancient man as the dawning of a new age of human consciouness evolution.
Your religions have been hijacked, since their conceptions. This has created religious slavery. (the ideas teach you, you are less then god, and a
sinner and that you must worship god or you will go to hell. this isn't the message Jesus was trying to preach, and it is obvious in his words)
America was founded by the same hijackers, to create the global superpower, monetary haven, and to bring about the NWO. (the NWO is an idea, total
Over the next few years, there will be more destruction on earth then ever in all of history. No, the world is not going to end on this date, and
further investigation clearly disproves all the history channel hype about 2012. However, the reallity that collective consciousness manifests, will
be the ultimate decider on what happens after that.
I really could go into each one much more precisely, but so many of you think people like myself are wacko, but wont actually starting looking for the
1 year ago today, had I met myself on the street, I would have thought I was insane too. Realization is amazingly liberating.
To add my own history. I started to wonder to myself about the path of "civilized" man on earth. This began at about age 12 and I began to
question why we were taught and even thought we were more civilized then any other ancient people. It was a gut feeling I had, it didn't make sense
to me. Who is the judge of what is civilized? Even at this age, I had felt that even animials and the harmony they had with earth seemed more
civilized to me then learning about the crusades. Man was out of place here, I surmised.
When I was about 19, I had some interesting feelings about the world, the universe and reality. I was a devout atheist, leading up to this point in
my life, and I would argue with anyone about it. Things just didn't seem to add up about god.
around 2002, I stopped paying taxes. I don't know what made me make this crazy decision. I started claiming 6,7,8,9 on all my W-4's and never
thinking twice about any possible ramifications. Stupid... right?
2006 I had another horrible feeling about my former home. Ventura, California. I had to leave that place, and it was for my safety to do so.
Feburary 2009, just before I was laid off from my job, A hot topic at the smoking table during break was about these history channel episodes and some
Mayan calendar thing and the date 2012.
One night in early March, I did a google search "2012". My life has now been forever changed. 12 hours a day since that night, I have researched
everything I was taught, looked at both sides and formed an opinion
The feelings in my heart, my subconcious mind, and my soul had led me to this point. What I ended up finding, mirrored nearly exactly everything I
previously thought I had made up myself.
I now attempt to improve myself everyday, in the only way that matters, internally. The purpose of life has been uncovered. This is why many of us
are going crazy trying to spread the information.
I'd also like to add that Nassim Haramein had much to do with the final piece of the puzzle that led me to enlightment. Checking up on modern
physics after hearing what he had to say, completely sealed the deal.
So, this is the truth, that you aren't supposed to know. When you die, the law of conservation of energy exists, it is transfered, to your spirit,
and another journey begins. Thus, making development of it, the purpose of life.
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