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posted on Oct, 6 2009 @ 07:37 AM
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Just wanted to laud you for your humanity. I would hope there are more folks such as yourself around. Folks who care and who take action. Blessings!




posted on Oct, 6 2009 @ 07:39 AM
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thanks for explaining that


Over here in Europe, someone who doesn't pay rent/loan can be evicted after 6 months. But the belongings are picked up by someone appointed by the court (im not sure how you call this guy in english). Then the belongings will be sold at an auction house and the profit is used to pay the debts the evicted person has.
They don't throw it on the street.



posted on Oct, 6 2009 @ 07:47 AM
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Where has the humanity gone? could you imagine something like this in your neighborhood? the owners of the building should be sued for putting an elderly person at risk and for the loss of her property.



posted on Oct, 6 2009 @ 07:58 AM
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Great story dog, and sad that it's happening all over the country.

But I can't believe people were going through her stuff. You said a policeman had to take her to the hospital, so were there police there? That's still private property even though it's in the street. You claim you live in a nice neighborhood, but something like that would never happen where I live.

So you either live in the ghetto or I am not buying it.

*



posted on Oct, 6 2009 @ 08:06 AM
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Originally posted by gormly

Originally posted by schrodingers dog

This story is very sad... it's also quite unbelievable. if it were true, I'd be probably mad enough to fly to DC and do something about it. In fact if I were there I would have done something about it.. the "20-30 people" would have all had a hard time keeping the things they were stealing.

However... I stay my anger...I understand the need to embellish, to make a somewhat sad story more tragic so it can be heard and shared.

I REFUSE to believe this, it may indeed be true although I do doubt it, but I REFUSE to believe it.

Escalades and BMW's, Escalades and BMW's.

For the most part people who drive Escalades and BMW's are people who have gotten somewhere in life, usually they have worked long and hard for it and wouldn't for a second think to "rob" a crying old woman on the street and risk whatever it is that got them to the position to own an Escalades or BMW, and those who haven't worked long and hard for it certainly don't need the odds and end's of an old lady's "sneakers".

Think about it, logically. Saying some of them lost their jobs and have no money wouldn't give creedence to some immediate need to steal an old womans mostly worthless belongings..

Seriously, think about it.

I would venture to guess everything in the a story except the Escalades and BMW's and the count of "20-30" is true.


I guess you didn't look at the pictures on page one of this thread, one hour later and there are still BMW's and other clean and shiny cars and lots of people picking through someone's belongings.

But let me guess, your not going to do anything, you, like most people, will make excuses why you cannot go to another's aid, everyone is Barbie and Ken behind their keyboards.



posted on Oct, 6 2009 @ 08:30 AM
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Originally posted by whipnet
reply to post by schrodingers dog
 


Great story dog, and sad that it's happening all over the country.

But I can't believe people were going through her stuff. You said a policeman had to take her to the hospital, so were there police there? That's still private property even though it's in the street. You claim you live in a nice neighborhood, but something like that would never happen where I live.

So you either live in the ghetto or I am not buying it.

*


after i had an estate sale for my folks house (last of my parents passed away), i still had furniture and odd and ends left. i tries contacting several relief and charity organizations to pick up the rest of the stuff free of charge. ALL of them in this area would not take it, because the forclosure mess had filled their buildings to the max, they had no room to store it. i ended up giving it to some guy that would pick it up, but would not give a tax deductible reciept, because he was NOT a charity. he had some 8 acres of land that he used for a huge once-a month sale for a little profit (he said) that he used to pay workers and provide himself some income. and he told me that he had to stop picking up by the third week of the month, because his 8 acres were too full. this is a huge problem that is not getting any air time in the media, but it shows the widespread devastation going on in the housing market along with people's lives.

pluse, if you think you can make money from selling some 100 year old furniture that might have cost you 500 bucks 8 or 9 years ago, be prepared to take 20 bucks for it or your going to end up storing alot of furniture. clothing and kitchenware you can't give away, i tried, you'll simply have to throw it away.



posted on Oct, 6 2009 @ 12:58 PM
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I agree but how. These corps know they have us by the balls. We can all talk a good game about what we want to do and what we should do. But when it comes down to it we are all conditioned to look after ourselves and our family. (The price we pay for living in a capitlistic country) It is truly sad that things like this happen. But while the power lies with the people to change it we dont have the fortitude to change it. If gas is to high then the only way to get our point across is not buy gas at all not one drop. I know all the excuses I have to work, go to school, etc. If we are sick of all the forclosures then the way we change it is everyone walks out of their mortgage. If we dont like the way these mega-corps are exploitng us and our country then we pull all our money, stocks bonds 401k everything. We the people hold the power but have been taught since birth that we have no power. Not one of us has the balls, fortitude, courge, what ever you want to call it to truly stand up to the banks, mega-corps, or government. myself included. We are all afrarid that we will lose what little we have left. But face the facts unless we the people do something then far more elderly ladies and families that truly have no where to go will be shoved out in the streets. I can almost guarrentee that not one person that will read this will have a truly solid way that we could make a diffrence. I know I dont and it piises me off



posted on Oct, 6 2009 @ 01:46 PM
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Years ago in a 3rd world country I saw similar things- people being run out of their shanties by government thugs. To think this happens here too... Doesn't the bible talk about the day when the children will snatch the food from the mouths of the aged? This really is just a confirmation of that prophecy. But all religious talk aside, you did a very commendable thing- a thing I can applaud.
Just one more thing to reinforce my belief that I'm a sane man surrounded by hordes of mentally unhealthy people. I trust many people on this site feel the same.
Keep fighting.



posted on Oct, 6 2009 @ 03:12 PM
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Makes me think of when my father passed. The day after he died, I came home to find a bunch of his supposed 'friends' in his room, going through his stuff. It was sickening. The things people will do to each other in this world.

Chrono



posted on Oct, 6 2009 @ 03:31 PM
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It doesn't surprise me at all.

There is a thin line between civility and all out anarchy... a tiny margin between humanity and barbarism.

I have seen people fight over "freebies" set out to the curb side...

Case in point: My father years ago, set out a complete set of 1977 Pontiac Rally wheels, complete with excellent tires, center caps, and beauty rings, and all the chromed lug nuts. ( the car was burned in a grass fire ) He junked the car, and kept the wheels...thinking he'd use them later. He didn't, and decided to give them away. He set them out at the curb, with a "FREE" sign on them.

Two guys simultaneously drove by, hit the brakes and ran, trying to outrun the other to them. They got there at the same time. One said he saw them first. The other disagreed. One had buddy with him, the other did not. So the two of them, grabbed the one fella, wrestled him to the ground, and the biggest of the two, held him down, while the other loaded the pickup truck with the wheels...He called his buddy, who then released the single smaller guy, and beat it, jumping into the truck and speeding away. The single guy jumped up, bruised and scratched , screaming, and jumped into his car, giving chase... We stood there in the house looking out of the windows, dumb stuck as to what we had just take place. It was to late to call the police.

I wondered, and hoped that the lone man, never caught up with the other thugs. He wouldn't have stood a chance.

My dad has since then, taken everything he doesn't want, to Goodwill, and dropped it off. No more setting things to the curb.

People are going crazy more now than ever before. The incident described in this post, is a clear indication of it.

God forbid, another massive natural disaster hits, like Katrina!

The images of looters saying everything was free...is permanently etched in my mind!

A "STAR" to the poster of this story!



posted on Oct, 6 2009 @ 04:01 PM
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Originally posted by DCPatriot

Originally posted by Now_Then

Originally posted by schrodingers dog
Argh!


Your a good guy Sdogg, That's a sad sad side of the state of the world ~ what's the betting that the old woman gets a ticket or a fine for all the litter the vultures left?


First of all, evictions in Washington DC are an extremely long process. The consumer is protected in the District of Columbia compared to the neighboring States of Maryland and Virginia.

There are scheduled notices, warnings, certified mail notices...and the police are always present during evictions.

They are to remain guard at the curb for ONE HOUR...then they leave.

As sad as this elderly lady's predicament is, where are the tears of sorrow for the poor schmuck landlord who didn't get rent payments for probable 8-12 months?

This lady had all kinds of time to get a storage bin, a rental truck, etc.. There are non-profit organizaitions that assist people like this that get caught up in the enforcement of landlord and tenant laws.


You missed the entire point, my friend -- it's not about landlords, nor the poor lady, but it is about the heartless scum who scavenged her treasured belongings. What goes around comes around.

The sad thing about this whole affair is that I'll bet not a one of those scavengers thought they were doing anything out of the ordinary -- business as usual for a lost and uncaring class of self-centered individuals.

In the meantime, SD and all others in this discussion have shown the true character of kindness by action and by response. Thank you SD for sharing with that lady and for sharing with us. Let us all know if we need to take next steps to help out in any way.

Peace and blessings to you.

[edit on 10/6/2009 by theophilus77]

[edit on 10/6/2009 by theophilus77]



posted on Oct, 6 2009 @ 05:14 PM
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Originally posted by IHIPrelude94
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Yeah, I'm kinda going back and reading it now.

Still, the fact remains that you need at least 30 days prior to stopped payment (even as a mortgage company) to file paperwork (more often 60-90 days), then you're looking at at least another 30 days after it's filed before the eviction takes place. This wasn't something that she was blindsided by, like other previous posters being victims of flooding and having people steal their belongings.

Couldn't she have been more responsible and maybe... sold the house? Maybe taken what was left (she's an old lady so I doubt she owed that much on her mortgage) and rented a 1 BR apartment for less? Maybe she could have fallen back on her "friends" who were so concerned about her for help?

There could have been many things that she could have done to save herself from something like this. Honestly, even though I think the people who stole from her are total jerks, I really don't feel that bad for her. Yeah it sucks to see your personal possessions stolen right in front of you, but good God man... you could have done SOMETHING to protect yourself.

I don't feel bad for laziness or ignorance... =/

[edit on 1-10-2009 by IHIPrelude94]


Be careful what you write and what you speak -- it can reveal a tremendous amount of information about you and the way you see others. Only someone who has never faced a situation like this lady faced could be so 'pragmatic'. Who knows 'why' she ended up out on the curb with her whole life destroyed other than the lady herself. That isn't the point. The point is, that confronted with a situation where a lady was emotionally distraught and with her whole life crumbling around her, two types of human beings showed up at the curb. The majority -- selfish scavengers apparently -- and the other -- a caring Good Samaritan who truly understood that he was his brother's [sister's] keeper. You can understand a lot about the world in total from this slice of life which we all have been discussing here in this thread.

Blessings to SD for doing the right thing. Apparently he didn't stop to 'blame' the woman for being in the situation she was in. A true hero is a person who does 'love his neighbor as he loves himself'.

[edit on 10/6/2009 by theophilus77]



posted on Oct, 6 2009 @ 05:55 PM
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What a sad story...

I'm sure you aren't looking for recognition, but may GOD bless you for taking the time to help that poor woman. Shame of those people who rifled through her belongings with little regard for the situation at hand...it's simply unconscionable what they did.



posted on Oct, 6 2009 @ 09:34 PM
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omg... I'm soo disgusted I can't stand it!!!! I think we also need to know who runs that Apt. Building or condo? Who threw her stuff out onto the street? so we can shame them. The lady was 70yrs old... ? Lost her husband... Whom ever threw her out knew this!! They should have reached out a helping hand. We know you can't pay your rent/mortgage and for this we're terribly sorry but let's find out how we can help you move to an affordable living facility for older folks... etc..etc..etc..!!! It started in the 80's with the ME ME ME syndrome..We're in this mess now because of GREED!!! We stopped being a village. How many of us really know our neighbors? Just look at the way people drive these days... it's you against "Get the HELL out of my way" Go to walmart.. same DAMN THING!!! I hate people these days...and here's a perfect example of why! We stopped listening...we already know what people are going to say and WHO CARES!!! we stopped respecting... me me me me me

ok...there's my rant.. do I feel better... no!



posted on Oct, 6 2009 @ 09:36 PM
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How about the rights of the property owner?

If said owner had someone ready to rent that place out, the private property owners rights come first.



posted on Oct, 7 2009 @ 10:35 AM
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It takes a long time to evict a tenant and nobody wants to do it unless you are forced to do it. The process involves many legal letters with expiry dates and finally an eviction notice served by the local Sherif. And when the owner(s) take control of the dwelling, he has to spend a lot of money fixing up the appartment to rent it as soon as possible to recuperate the loses. The owner(s) are not movers and are not responsible for the storage of furniture or other valuable items belonging to the tenant. The tenant knew this was coming, and why did welfare allow this to happen? Well, believe it or not, welfare cheques are paid directly to the tenants who are giving the responsibility to pay their rent. If the rent is not paid, there is no recourse from the owner(s) to recover rent money if the tenant refuses to pay. I will repeat again, ...refuses to pay. Now should we have pitty? My answer is NO.



posted on Oct, 7 2009 @ 01:48 PM
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OMG...!! schrodingers dog , is this really the story actually including the pics??
I see on tv, movies, US people care about animals, talk about conservation, green talks etc.. and they must be so caring, right now I see what is the real picture. Disappointed to know that I had false views.
I dont know if it was only the bunch of 20 or 30 vultures, with faulty behaviour,,, but still right now I am disappointed at the total. And women?? I had an image about US women as respectful, kind and emotional. but here they go..............

These people are appearing and smiling like as if they are going through an exhibiton show.
Like schrodingers dog did, Didn't they see the lady crying, atleast?
How much decency can they show with the help of high end cars, hair styles, expencive clothes, shoes? with such act they just drop below zero.



posted on Oct, 7 2009 @ 08:59 PM
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The end of this world cannot come soon enough to rid this world of these vampires who feed on the less capable.

My faith in human nature has dissappeared, I expect these happenings and soon will carry a weapon just in case. Perhaps a baseball bat like Casey Jones....

Go ahead cross me!

Namaste!

But what about unconditional love Chewbit? I will love you if you love me, I will take out your kneecap if you try anything else...

Cel phone enemas are another idea...



posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 01:47 AM
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Hi Chewbit Wing,
Namaskaar,
Yes true.
But what is cellphone enemas? some domestic weapons? share it for the benefit of people. tell.
see you.




Originally posted by Chewbit Wing
The end of this world cannot come soon enough to rid this world of these vampires who feed on the less capable.

My faith in human nature has dissappeared, I expect these happenings and soon will carry a weapon just in case. Perhaps a baseball bat like Casey Jones....

Go ahead cross me!

Namaste!

But what about unconditional love Chewbit? I will love you if you love me, I will take out your kneecap if you try anything else...

Cel phone enemas are another idea...



posted on Oct, 8 2009 @ 08:33 AM
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Isn't this what Capitalism is all about? She didn't pay her bills, she got booted. Nothing personal and all in the pursuit of Profit. Anything less would be socialism or even communism.

I do feel for her and it sickens me to see those people go through her belongings and stealing from her. But until we decide that personal profit is not the driving motivator of our society and humanity as a whole, this will continue, and will only get worse.

You can use banks and credit cards if you are responsible. I have used credit cards for the past 15 years, instead of cash. I have a budget and I stick to it and I pay it all with the cards. Come the 1st of the month I pay off each card in full resetting their balances to ZERO. I have earned many points, saved money through promotions, and even gotten a few free plane tickets. I help them make money from the cost of the transactions that the vendors pay to charge me via the card. The cards also offer membership incentives and even extend the warranties on electronics I purchase as well as offer me additional protection.

I don't make a lot, but I have been able to max out my Roth IRA every year, buy a car in cash, and I nearly have enough saved up to buy a decent house outright. But it takes realizing that you don't need anything except that which helps you survive, maintain health, and continue to obtain earnings in your day to day life. I takes a strong will to be minimalistic even spartan in your lifestyle. It also takes some research to buy things that give you the best value for your dollar and not necessarily just the cheapest.

Budget to save between 25-50% of your yearly net earnings. If that means you have to live at the bare minimums then so be it. If you do that for a while you can easily buy a house or car and pay cash while building up an adequate emergency fund.

[edit on 8-10-2009 by DJM8507]






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