The Little Rissington UFO Incident., page 1


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Topic started on 1-10-2009 @ 01:17 PM by karl 12
Subject: UFO Incident Involving RAF Meteor & Radar Over Gloucestershire, 21 Oct 1952:





Flying saucers were the last thing on Michael Swiney's mind when he climbed into the cockpit of an RAF Meteor VII on the afternoon of 21 October 1952. Swiney was a staff instructor based at the RAF's Central Flying School at Little Rissington, Gloucestershire, where his job was to provide tuition to RAF and Navy pilots. Seated behind him was his student for the day, David Crofts, a Royal Navy lieutenant. What began as a run-of-the mill exercise was soon to turn into one of the most dramatic experiences in Swiney's flying career.

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Very intriguing UFO incident from over Gloucestershire, England in which three disc shaped objects were plotted on ground radar and witnessed by two RAF pilots who saw them fly over the cockpit of their aircraft - the pilots are interviewed below and describe the objects in full detail.

If anyone knows any further info on this incident please post.



Interviews found at 13:55.




Fascinating interview with Flight Lieutennant Michael Swiney and Royal Navy Lieutennant David Crofts who both witnessed three disc shaped objects pass over the cockpit of their plane whilst flying over England in October 1952 - the three objects were also confirmed by ground radar.



Edit to fix links (again)

edit on 02/10/08 by karl 12 because: (no reason given)



reply posted on 1-10-2009 @ 04:04 PM by karl 12
reply to post by TeslaandLyne



Yes not to worry, one of the RAF pilots does sound quite spooked though.
The pilots both say that upon landing they were immediately confined in separate cabins and told to speak to noone until they were thoroughly debriefed by an unknown plain clothes officer.
Its also interesting that the three objects were plotted on ground radar (ground speed 600mph).
Cheers.



reply posted on 1-10-2009 @ 04:34 PM by karl 12
reply to post by butch_uk



Err yes that is rather pedantic but thanks for pointing that one out.


reply posted on 3-10-2009 @ 02:41 PM by TeslaandLyne
Originally posted by karl 12
reply to
post by TeslaandLyne



Yes not to worry, one of the RAF pilots does sound quite spooked though.
The pilots both say that upon landing they were immediately confined in separate cabins and told to speak to noone until they were thoroughly debriefed by an unknown plain clothes officer.
Its also interesting that the three objects were plotted on ground radar (ground speed 600mph).
Cheers.


That is quite fast.
Now you know why some wonder at the statement that some one
made about their aircraft going 300 miles per second.
That is a lot slower than the speed of light 186,000 miles per second.

I think in terms of miles per hour one finds an outrageous 1,080,000 mph.
Also why some people say the UFO goes into another dimension but
it just has instantaneous momentum perhaps as some have sought
to explain the behavior.

Based on charges I wonder what speed might be attained.
Velocity,V, = acceleration,a, times time,t.
Acceleration,a, of a charged mass,m, equals the voltage,v, times the
charge,q, as an approximation as in normal physics.
Thus in terms of these parameters we need to know mass,m, charge,q,
and voltage,v, applied to a craft to find the acceleration.
F = ma = qV
a = V(q/m) = V
Now millions of volts is truly possible.
Lets say we have a charge to mass ratio of one.
However charge,q, can be accumulated by another voltage,v2, so
no problem to account for any mass,m.
Then Velocity = one million volts times even a micro second to
achieve some velocity.
After a long application things should move along.
Voltage is also known as potential,p, and this mode of operation
might be called the two potential system or the p2.
In other notation the p relates to frequency.
Thus electric propulsion might be achieved and if we plug in
numbers we might be astounded.


reply posted on 3-10-2009 @ 06:50 PM by AboveTopSecretX
reply to post by karl 12



we keep getting reports from pilots concerning these fireballs of light. amazing whats in our skies.


reply posted on 21-11-2009 @ 10:26 AM by karl 12
Pilot Eyewitness testimony:


"It was something supernatural. I immediately thought of course, of saucers, because that's actually what they looked like. They were not leaving a condensation trail as I knew we were. They were circular and appeared to be stationary. We continued to climb to twice that height [to 30,000 feet] and as we did so they did in fact change position. They took on a slightly different perspective. For example the higher we got they lost their circular shape and took on more of a 'flat plate' appearance - like when you hold a tea-saucer above your head and look at it, and then bring it down to your eye-level, it loses the circular shape and becomes a flat plate."

"At one time the objects, which were still very much in view, appeared to go from one side of us to the other, and to make quite sure it was not an illusion caused by us in our aeroplane moving to one side, I checked that we were absolutely still on a very steady heading, and sure enough they had moved across to the starboard side of the aircraft."

"We got to the top of the climb and I decided that really there was nothing much we could do. I was too shaken by what I had seen and decided to call the exercise off and go back to base. I called up Air Traffic Control at Rissington and said I had three unidentified objects fairly close and gave them my course. I understand later that there was a certain amount of pandemonium on the ground because they weren't used to having their own staff instructors calling up saying 'we have got three unidentified flying objects in front, what do we do?' They didn't know what to do either."

Flight Lieutenant Michael Swiney



And:


"I remember doing the 35,000 foot check and Mick, who was in the front seat, said: 'David, did you have anything to drink at lunchtime?' and I said: 'No, why?' and he said: 'Is your oxygen on?' and I replied: 'Mick, we've just done the 30,000 foot check and you checked with me that your oxygen was alright and I checked with you that my oxygen was alright,' then he said: 'Well, look at that - straight ahead!'

"Mick [who was in the front seat] put his head to one side and I looked straight through the D-window and there were three dots ahead, [initially] they wouldn't have been bigger than my thumb-nail at arm's length and there were certainly three of them. I looked up from time to time and saw they were approaching and getting further and further apart. What I saw looked like the bottom of a stemmed glass. They were lens shaped, like an ellipse and the sun was behind them, and there was no cloud at that height. It was impossible to tell the size of them or how far away they were.

"I was thinking all the time that I've got to make this a good exercise and didn't want to muff it by looking around at extraneous things, but Mick kept talking about them and saying that he thought they were UFOs so I thought: 'Oh yes, well let's go after them!' thinking well now we can stop doing the exercise and we can officially say we are off the hook. But he didn't, he said: 'Oh Lord no, don't you remember something that happened on the West Coast of America where a couple of pilots went after one of these things and they all got vapourised and they have never been seen since.' I then asked him what he intended to do, and with that he called Air Traffic Control at Little Rissington and said what he could see and within a very short time he said: 'I have control', he turned the aircraft and we headed back to base."

Royal Navy Lieutennant David Crofts

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[edit on 02/10/08 by karl 12]


reply posted on 9-3-2010 @ 12:46 PM by Gazrok
reply to post by TeslaandLyne



Older cases typically have more documentation, because they didn't have the existing ridicule factor established. At that time, they were more genuinely concerned with just what the hell was going on, and the potential threat posed.

In addition, modern pilots face losing their livelihood in reporting UFOs, so sometimes older cases make for better evidence.
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