Breaking: Second Major Earthquake Strikes Indonesia

reply to post by MagicaRose


It would depend on the size of the tsunami associated with the quake.
But Hurricane Andrew showed what can happen to Florida in wake of a water/wind event...

Except in this case, it would be a water event as the tsunami would clear the land of anything that existed below it.

reply to post by theRiverGoddess


I think you are right about that. I live on the west coast, don't know if that will help or not.

The Atlantic Ocean is a powerful thing.

What is with all the doom and gloom over a couple of Earthquakes in the ring of fire? This happens from time to time. Last time I looked this most current would just be considered an aftershock.

reply to post by SquishyFishy


8.0 scale quakes are NOT normal.
Also, I am not hearing much "doom and gloom" as you put it.
I am hearing people reporting on current events.

Nevermind the biblical nutters.
They spout this stuff often.
Ongoing for about 1,500 years, in fact.

I have a question though, why is it that when someone reports something like this, that could spell bad news, it is automatically called "doom?"

It is a growing trend I see here.
Questioningall is very active in geoscience categories and almost everytime I see one of (her?) threads, I see the comments like the one you made above...
Calling her a scaremonger. I don't understand why. This is just a report of another quake. Not any doom and gloom.

Although I must say, it is very unsettling.

Such severe quakes so close together are not a good thing.
In fact, they are unheard of.

[edit on 30-9-2009 by JayinAR]

what the hell.... ??

Originally posted by MagicaRose
reply to post by Stargate2012

 

I've felt like just recently that we're approaching the end times.

Too many things are happening all at once and never in my life have I felt this way.

The bad thing is that there's no way to prepare for this.

I agree. All in all the galactic superwave is headed towards us now coming from Galactic Center. Likely will fully reach earth around 2011-2012.

reply to post by JayinAR


Yes they are. They just happen with less frequency than smaller quakes. I guess I should just let you all be since I know how you like to work your self into a frenzy everytime some natural disaster occurs. Maybe one day you will get your wish and the world will just spontaneously explode and blow all of our corpses into space. Have a great evening. Oh and questioningall is the QUEEN of all chicken littles.



[edit on 30-9-2009 by SquishyFishy]

reply to post by SquishyFishy


Earthquakes are normal. Aftershocks are normal. Not two major quakes one a 7.6 and the other 6.8 within less than a day in the same region. Add to that an 8.0 6k miles away with several 5.0+ aftershocks preceeding it. It's either just really odd coincidental timing, or something else.

[edit on 30-9-2009 by Wookiep]

reply to post by Wookiep


It is called randomness... sometimes # just happens that way. It doesnt mean tomorrow the Earth is going rip of magnitude 10 any more than it means it will after there is a lull of actiivity. Actually, there is more chance when there arent many earthquakes for the next one to be a doozy. But its just an earthquake. It sucks that people died but its been happening for billions of years.

reply to post by SquishyFishy


No 8 scale quakes are not normal.
We only receive about 5 per year.
We have had two in as many days.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I am not "worked up" as you put it.

In fact, I am more anxious to see what is going to happen than anything else.

I would go into reasons why, but it doesn't matter much.
Plus, apparently you are done here.
So, as you said, goodnight.

reply to post by SquishyFishy

Oh and questioningall is the QUEEN of all chicken littles.

Pretty sad you have to go after fellow members.

You would be better served just showing proof that all of these earthquakes are normal.

reply to post by JayinAR


Goodnight and pleasant dreams.

reply to post by SquishyFishy


hehe, I don't think anyone said "Earth is going rip of magnitude 10" .. you're blowing it up. And it wasn't an earthquake...it was earthquakes (plural) 2 being major.

reply to post by JayinAR

The annual average number of 8.0+ earthquakes is less than 1. In 2007 there were 4.There are an average of 13 7.0+ and 118 6.0+ quakes per year.

These numbers are based on data since 1973.
neic.usgs.gov...

So far in 2009 we have had 1 8.0 (not 2), 11 7.0+, and 88 6.0+ quakes. Seems about right.

[edit on 9/30/2009 by Phage]

reply to post by SquishyFishy


Randomness?!


No, you don't go through all of quake reported history to come up with an average of 5 level 8 magnitude quakes per year and then, suddenly, in 2009 see 2 in a single day.

That is absurd.

Not only have there been 2 quakes measuring in the 8 magnitude level, but there has been a 7 and a 6.
Several more of +5.

This isn't randomness. This is an event.

Good lord I can't stand people who feel as if they are the epitome of scientific understanding.

Edit to add- Phage's post above my own showed an error in my estimates. ONE quake in the 8 magnitude level per year!

[edit on 30-9-2009 by JayinAR]

reply to post by Phage


Phage, thanks for the info! How often do 2 major quakes occour in the same region, in the same day? (not counting aftershocks) I'm not trying to be smart, as I'll admit EQ's aren't my area of expertise..

reply to post by Phage


Silly me for averaging an 8.3 and a 7.6.
In reality, they give me 1/5th of a point below a 2X8 average.

I still say that is out of the ordinary.


Doesn't seem right to me.
I guess we can review it tomorrow. After the next one.

Edit to add - I would also like to see the numbers on a 7.0+ in the same region within a day apart, as the poster above mentioned.

But as it is going at this rate, we'll see another.

[edit on 30-9-2009 by JayinAR]

[edit on 30-9-2009 by JayinAR]

reply to post by Wookiep

Give me your definition of major.

Holy crap, check out how many aftershocks hit after the Samoa 8.0m
The intensity of these is pretty high!

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MAP 4.8 2009/10/01 03:41:58 -15.582 -173.610 10.0 TONGA
MAP 5.0 2009/10/01 00:30:22 -16.443 -172.443 10.0 SAMOA ISLANDS REGION
MAP 5.0 2009/09/30 21:22:54 -16.667 -173.827 10.0 TONGA
MAP 5.2 2009/09/30 19:43:53 -15.354 -173.454 10.0 TONGA
MAP 5.2 2009/09/30 17:47:17 -15.453 -173.384 10.0 TONGA
MAP 5.1 2009/09/30 15:20:16 -15.087 -173.427 10.0 TONGA
MAP 5.3 2009/09/30 13:57:11 -16.637 -172.519 10.0 SAMOA ISLANDS REGION
MAP 4.6 2009/09/30 13:31:08 -15.065 -173.511 10.0 TONGA
MAP 5.0 2009/09/30 09:05:13 -16.132 -172.861 10.0 SAMOA ISLANDS REGION
MAP 5.3 2009/09/30 08:24:58 -16.575 -172.685 10.0 SAMOA ISLANDS REGION
MAP 4.9 2009/09/30 07:32:15 -15.256 -172.697 10.0 SAMOA ISLANDS REGION
MAP 4.7 2009/09/30 07:13:46 -16.580 -172.941 10.0 SAMOA ISLANDS REGION
MAP 5.3 2009/09/30 05:24:51 -15.351 -173.380 10.0 TONGA
MAP 4.8 2009/09/30 04:46:22 -16.349 -172.249 10.0 SAMOA ISLANDS REGION
MAP 5.0 2009/09/30 04:03:11 -15.621 -173.351 10.0 TONGA
MAP 4.6 2009/09/30 03:18:10 -15.776 -172.773 10.0 SAMOA ISLANDS REGION
MAP 5.0 2009/09/30 02:47:27 -15.723 -173.142 10.0 TONGA
MAP 5.0 2009/09/30 02:29:34 -16.617 -173.038 10.0 TONGA
MAP 5.1 2009/09/30 01:39:50 -15.483 -173.383 10.0 TONGA
MAP 4.9 2009/09/30 01:30:40 -15.526 -172.581 10.0 SAMOA ISLANDS REGION
MAP 4.9 2009/09/30 01:16:18 -15.577 -172.043 10.0 SAMOA ISLANDS REGION
MAP 5.1 2009/09/30 01:09:29 -14.972 -173.612 10.0 SAMOA ISLANDS REGION
MAP 5.2 2009/09/30 01:05:34 -14.914 -173.245 10.0 SAMOA ISLANDS REGION
MAP 5.1 2009/09/30 00:40:52 -15.460 -172.931 10.0 SAMOA ISLANDS REGION
MAP 4.8 2009/09/30 00:27:53 -15.029 -173.137 10.0 TONGA
MAP 4.9 2009/09/30 00:22:38 -15.380 -173.481 10.0 TONGA
MAP 5.0 2009/09/30 00:11:38 -15.992 -172.243 10.0 SAMOA ISLANDS REGION
MAP 4.9 2009/09/29 23:51:43 -15.134 -171.944 10.0 SAMOA ISLANDS REGION
MAP 5.9 2009/09/29 23:45:03 -15.840 -172.531 10.0 SAMOA ISLANDS REGION
MAP 5.4 2009/09/29 23:32:57 -15.539 -173.322 10.0 TONGA
MAP 5.5 2009/09/29 23:11:51 -15.565 -173.365 10.0 TONGA
MAP 4.9 2009/09/29 22:41:45 -15.200 -172.899 10.0 SAMOA ISLANDS REGION
MAP 5.1 2009/09/29 22:08:30 -15.345 -173.387 10.0 TONGA
MAP 4.9 2009/09/29 21:51:00 -16.174 -172.533 10.0 SAMOA ISLANDS REGION
MAP 5.0 2009/09/29 21:28:56 -17.205 -173.002 10.0 TONGA
MAP 4.5 2009/09/29 20:33:49 -16.794 -172.536 10.0 SAMOA ISLANDS REGION
MAP 4.7 2009/09/29 20:05:39 -14.864 -173.827 10.0 SAMOA ISLANDS REGION
MAP 4.6 2009/09/29 19:57:46 -15.172 -173.135 10.0 TONGA
MAP 4.9 2009/09/29 19:33:12 -15.948 -173.363 10.0 TONGA
MAP 5.2 2009/09/29 19:18:52 -16.879 -172.803 10.0 SAMOA ISLANDS REGION
MAP 5.2 2009/09/29 18:57:58 -16.067 -173.125 10.0 TONGA
MAP 4.7 2009/09/29 18:51:45 -16.111 -173.209 10.0 TONGA
MAP 5.0 2009/09/29 18:46:02 -14.953 -173.329 10.0 SAMOA ISLANDS REGION
MAP 5.4 2009/09/29 18:40:11 -15.347 -173.296 10.0 TONGA
MAP 5.1 2009/09/29 18:34:29 -14.871 -172.493 10.0 SAMOA ISLANDS
MAP 5.0 2009/09/29 18:29:26 -15.948 -173.231 10.0 TONGA
MAP 5.8 2009/09/29 18:21:42 -16.197 -173.069 10.0 TONGA
MAP 5.6 2009/09/29 18:19:36 -15.952 -171.611 10.0 SAMOA ISLANDS REGION
MAP 5.6 2009/09/29 18:08:22 -15.467 -172.092 10.0 SAMOA ISLANDS REGION
MAP 8.0 2009/09/29 17:48:10 -15.509 -172.034 18.0 SAMOA ISLANDS REGION
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That's a hell of a lot of aftershocks!
earthquake.usgs.gov...

earthquake.usgs.gov...


It looks like new land is moving upwards.. maybe a new island? Or just the ring of fire again.

[edit on 9/30/2009 by Pharyax]

reply to post by Phage


Well whats the scientific defenition of "major"? We'll say how bout a 7.6 and a 6.8 in the same region on the same day? I don't know if 6.8 is major, but I'd bet it's bigger than average. We wont count the 8.0 6k miles away.