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Scientists find Extraterrestrial genes in Human DNA

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posted on Oct, 1 2009 @ 12:59 PM
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Originally posted by princeofpeace
Let me get this straight. We dont even know if aliens exist yet they make up 97% of our DNA? Thats an awful lot....


looooooooooooooooool I feel you BUT WOULDNT DISCREDIT TILL WE GET MORE INFO.




posted on Oct, 1 2009 @ 01:04 PM
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Originally posted by JayinAR
This isn't breaking news in any way shape or form.

This is years old, first of all.
Second, even I didn't believe this for a second the first time I heard it.

HOW do you conclude that ANYONE has extraterrestrial genes without having extraterrestrial genes to study?

This makes no sense.
None at all.

Anyone who buys this story should be shouting at this Doctor asking him where is the ET he studied to conclude this.


Wow you obviously didnt read past the OPs post..had you, you would have seen that this has already been identified as a hoax..See Phages post


Its a hoax and not everyone on here knows everything you have seen as with everyone else on here so many times stuff will be repeated, no biggie. It happens.



posted on Oct, 1 2009 @ 01:20 PM
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This has been posted a few times. You can find those threads on this search query of 'Junk DNA,' and part 3 of "Ring of Power," called "Monkey Blood," although poorly made, has more information.

Monkey Blood Pt. 1
Monkey Blood Pt. 2
Monkey Blood Pt. 3
Monkey Blood Pt. 4
Monkey Blood Pt. 5

I don't know which part has the information on the DNA we don't know what does yet though.



posted on Oct, 1 2009 @ 01:22 PM
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The reasons behind these ET news bleeps are more insidious
to speculate about so lets leave that alone for now.
Although we should know the story by now.



posted on Oct, 1 2009 @ 01:25 PM
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Hm strange but I remember reading a similar article here on ATS a few years back, although I can't find it right now...

I'll have a deeper look into the archives when I get the time




posted on Oct, 1 2009 @ 01:26 PM
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I totally flanked the entire article as a début for authors hypothetical theory concept when Adamski and especially when Billy Meier was referenced.

Original article quote



this group of extraterrestrials to be 'benevolent' as described by 'contactees' such as George Adamski, Orfeo Angelucci, George Van Tassell, Howard Menger, Paul Villa, Billy Meier and Alex Collier who each explain the nature of their voluntary interactions with these human looking extraterrestrials. These "contactees" often provide physical evidence in the form of photographs, film and/or witnesses of their contacts with extraterrestrial races. The most extensively documented and researched contactee is Eduard 'Billy' Meier who provided much physical evidence for investigators.



posted on Oct, 1 2009 @ 02:19 PM
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This is a website devoted to Genetics,Genomics

In the second grouping you will see a Sam C. Chang. It is next to 'Human X Chromosome inactivation'.

I have no idea whether he is the same one or not, but until proven otherwise, I don't think the article should be totally discredited because one person didn't happen to know him.



posted on Oct, 1 2009 @ 02:48 PM
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Here is an abstract by a Douglas McClure MA that mentions Sam Chang. Bold is mine.


The online Canadian National Newspaper recently published a series of articles quoting an alleged scientific breakthrough in this realm by a certain Professor Sam Chang, associated with the HGP.9 Professor Chang has proved elusive in the extreme but then so have the backgrounds and CVs of other top scientists working on super secret so called “black” projects. A world famous researcher and author on the subject has satisfied herself that Professor Chang does indeed exist, and even spoken to him. Her success is probably attributable to her superb connections and international renown.
exopolitics journal

I will continue looking



posted on Oct, 1 2009 @ 03:04 PM
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abstract

The above abstract in the Journal of the Society for Reproduction and Fertility references S C Chang's research from 2006 on human x chromosome inactivation numerous times.

edit to add...
The article that is referenced is in the journalFrontiers in Bioscience


Mechanisms of X-chromosome inactivation

Samuel C. Chang, Tracy Tucker, Nancy P. Thorogood, and Carolyn J. Brown

Department of Medical Genetics, University of British Columbia,Vancouver, BC, Canada


Since he is employed in Canada, perhaps that is why it first appeared in a Canadian paper

[edit on 1-10-2009 by liveandlearn]



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 12:32 AM
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Interesting science information declared a Hoax.

www.wiley.com...

His name is in the second group, here I will quote it:

Human X chromosome inactivation - Samuel C. Chang

Seems like someone, group, internet interest went to a lot of effort to suppress this information.

I wonder what gives anyway? Who is determining Hoaxes? Its censorship. The flag is gone but I would like to give this 100 flags and stars.

Shouldnt this be brought to a mod so this thread can be restored???

[edit on 7-7-2010 by Unity_99]



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 12:56 AM
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Originally posted by Unity_99
Shouldnt this be brought to a mod so this thread can be restored???
[edit on 7-7-2010 by Unity_99]


This Hoax Forum is crap ATS. I'm glad someone else is there for me to decide what information is valid and what isn't. I always thought the ATS community did a pretty good job of sniffing out hoaxes without a babysitter, frankly, it's kind of insulting to have that 'handled' for us now.

It's my understanding that there are specifically human genomes which have no genetic predecessors, whichever MOD put this in the HOAX forum apparently missed the "non-coding sequences" part.

en.wikipedia.org...

Ah well another potentially interesting discussion down the tubes because of this crap 'Hoax' label, thanks for being there to make these crucial decisions for your readership ATS. Yeah it might be a hoax, but I'm guessing the next time somebody hears about the very real 'junk DNA', they are going to dismiss the information out of hand because they read it was a HOAX here first.
Boo.



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 01:30 AM
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That's nice. Is that Samuel Chang a professor? How about something linking him to the Genome Project? That he was "the group leader"?

I wonder how a geneticist could claim that

The alien chunks within Human DNA, Professor Chang further observes, "have its own veins, arteries, and its own immune system that vigorously resists all our anti-cancer drugs."

DNA does not have veins. DNA does not have arteries. DNA does not have an immune system. Cancer drugs do not act upon DNA.

Do you know what a chromosome is? Do you know what X chromosome inactivation is? The Samuel Chang who wrote that article does, and it has nothing to do with "junk DNA" or extraterrestrials. It has to do with gender determination.

X-inactivation (also called lyonization) is a process by which one of the two copies of the X chromosome present in female mammals is inactivated. The inactive X chromosome is silenced by packaging into transcriptionally inactive heterochromatin. X-inactivation occurs so that the female, with two X chromosomes, does not have twice as many X chromosome gene products as the male, which only possess a single copy of the X chromosome (see dosage compensation).

en.wikipedia.org...

The article is nonsense and it is a hoax.

[edit on 7/7/2010 by Phage]



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 01:50 AM
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No one disputes the existence of "junk DNA".

The hoax is that "Prof. Sam Chang" was "the group leader" of the Human Genome Project and said that junk DNA is of extraterrestrial origin.



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 02:09 AM
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Actually, with a quick search people where claiming he didnt exist, it only took about 2 minutes to find his name listed in the site above, credentialed. This is actually a rather large conspiracy, as we have a scientist in the capacity of the human genome by his credentials being obscured and vanishing. The link above is enough to prove his credentials.

Example, artbell.tribe.net... this is an out and out lie.

Hmmm.... I wonder how you get listed in this Enyclopedia if you are not credentialed for the field you are under:

www.amazon.com...

??? Any ideas???



Repeat, link: www.wiley.com...

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Cytogenetics id number >>
Section Editor: Terry Hassold, Washington State University, Washington, USA
Human cytogenetics and human chromosome abnormalities - Terry Hassold
Visualising human chromosomes - Stuart Schwartz
Human X chromosome inactivation - Samuel C. Chang


Apparently the Washington State university seems to know of a certain genetics specialist named Sam Chang. Interesting how he publishes a paper then disappears in a obvious campiagn to make him invisible.

Must be a very significant paper that is not supposed to be released to the public.

[edit on 7-7-2010 by Unity_99]



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 02:28 AM
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Originally posted by Phage
No one disputes the existence of "junk DNA".

The hoax is that "Prof. Sam Chang" was "the group leader" of the Human Genome Project and said that junk DNA is of extraterrestrial origin.


'Junk DNA' is of an unknown origin, it can't be traced through our current theories of evolution to a common genetic ancestry, at least that I know of, which makes it intriguing at least. I don't buy the 'out of africa' crap personally. Sam Chang being the group leader of the Human Genome Project probably is a hoax, but like other posters have pointed out, there is a Sam Chang in the field, and it's possible we have another 'John Allegro' type suppression in the works.
My main point is who the hell decides this is a hoax for everyone else here? I've seen one mod move a thread to this forum because of something he read on Snopes for crying out loud. People are going to see this thread in this forum and assume the entire piece isn't worth further investigation and that's not what I come to ATS for. I was done being spoon fed as a toddler.



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 02:35 AM
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Well here is the dilemna, a Canadian publication published the paper and findings of a team actually, and I do recall reading on the dna coding that was considered a computer language on another site talking about recent findings, s here we have a story, with a man that "vanished" and was frauded, who indeed is a geneticist. Its not a hoax, its a mystery and a conspiracy, and it was put on a conpsiracy site that "hoaxed" it for no reason, unless the whole site and all the "conspiracies" on it are hoaxes.

This is a really big mystery.



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 02:41 AM
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In fact lets take this one step further based on the link of this incredibly expensive, multidisciplined textbook that I linked above that lists this very same University that I will quote below, with Chang acknowledged, but suddenly after this paper it pretends he doesnt exist, hmmmmmm......that same university that will be named below can't have it BOTH WAYS.

www.exopolitics.org...



I have attempted to verify the existence of Prof Chang and his team of researchers but have so far been unsuccessful. Significantly, Linda Moulton Howe conducted an interview with Prof John McPherson, a former Co-Director of the Genome Center, Washington University, St. Louis, Missouri. Prof McPherson had no knowledge of Prof Chang, but acknowledged that the extensive number of scientists working on the Human Genome Project made it possible that they had simply not met or yet communicated by email. www.earthfiles.com... . Prof McPherson commented that he did not find the Prof Chang story to be credible. Yet it is very likely that there is a more classified branch of the Human Genome Project that involves the location of extraterrestrial genetics which Prof McPherson and many other Human Genome Project scientists may simply not be aware of.

While it is possible that Prof Chang works on a more classified area of the Human Genome Project, it's important to note that I and others have not been able to verify his existence. It is very likely that classified research is occurring on extraterrestrial genetics in the human genome, but we need credible testimonies to verify this. Consequently, I cannot the verify the accuracy of the Canadian National's January 8 report concerning Prof Chang's research findings confirming the discovery of extraterrestrial genes in human DNA.

Given the lack of verification for Prof Chang's existence and of a team within the Human Genome Project working on exobiology, I therefore have to distinguish it from my own exopolitical research efforts concerning extraterrestrial visitors to Earth. I also need to distinguish the Human Genome Project from my collaboration with other researchers interested in exopolitics.


Washington University is represented in an professional encyclopedia with Chang mentioned as the Geneticist, yet pretends not to know him, or at least those interviewed or questioned.

This doesnt add up!

Looks like I'll be writing and sending this link to this author from exopolitics, I mean to me this would be a missing persons issue, possibly kidnapping and even murder to try and silence people, who knows a full investigation should be done, maybe a few majestic heads should roll.

[edit on 7-7-2010 by Unity_99]



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 02:57 AM
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Probably a casualty of the war between Creationism and Evolution, finding Genomes of an extraterrestrial origin would put a big ole hole in their efforts to force feed us the evolutionary origins for man.
Thanks for looking into this though. This hoax label crap is what intelligence agencies refer to as a 'stop word', like Aliens or Bigfoot, as soon as a stop word is employed, the listener or reader will tend to reject any further information, and I applaud your ability to see through that tactic. Interesting...



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 03:00 AM
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I don't know if anyone claimed that "Prof. Sam Chang" does not exist. It is his relationship to the Human Genome Project in general and his role as "group leader" in particular which has been called in to question.


BTW, The supposed extraterrestrial "announcement" seems to date from 2005.
divinecosmos.com...
You can find the original story here. It involves "Prof. Chang", a wall street analyst, and a broke cryptographer.
raysender.com...


Samuel C. Chang has not "disappeared". Here is a paper he published in March of this year. Please, before you get too excited about the title, read the abstract.
www.biomedcentral.com...

Here a paper he and Brown collaborated on regarding X-Chromosome inactivation:
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...
(Again, it has nothing to do with junk DNA.)

Maybe it's a different "Prof. Sam Chang". Maybe it's the other one who "disappeared".



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 03:04 AM
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You dont understand, I am asking a mod to unhoax this immediately. Washington State University, is linked to the Genome Project, and is the University that denied knowledge of Dr. Chang to exopolitics. Washington State University is represented in a interdisciplinary textbook, extremely overprice at over 2000 dollars, naming their geneticst as Dr Chang.

He has just been credentialled by the University that was contacted, linked to the Genome Project. His paper stands.

This is an incredible finding, the master plan, the big dna code, and then the crippled one, well many have talked of this already. Hmmmm... so they really crippled our dna at the request of the annanuki mentioned and credentialled by two far spaced historical groups separated by an entire continent, Sumar and the Hopi's, and who are our bloodlines. This fit in nicely.

And also that our junk dna is capapble of being activated, something else talked about in recent years.

And due to the burying of a man who is credentialled, this just became important, truth. Because they wouldnt have tried to hide him had it been irrelevant, it was important enough to bury.

Wow.
Just about everything people have written has just been validated by the greed of this Univeristy, being associated with such an overpriced encyclopedia, they failed in obscuring him.



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