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Israel's Hidden Nuclear Weapons Factory / Video

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posted on Oct, 2 2009 @ 01:20 AM
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is this anything like bin ladens bunker?
And someone remind me how that turned out
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posted on Oct, 2 2009 @ 01:35 AM
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thats not a very good hidden nuclear weapons factory...seeing how people know about it and all



posted on Oct, 2 2009 @ 04:05 AM
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Originally posted by mattpryor
IF Israel has nuclear weapons (this is not proved, anywhere)


They have them.

Even the former Prime Minister let that one slip.
To Israel that's a "Va-no-no".


Olmert's nuclear slip-up sparks outrage in Israel

Ehud Olmert, the Israeli Prime Minister, faced calls for his resignation today after admitting - in an apparent slip of the tongue - that Israel has got nuclear weapons.

But Israeli officials tried to push the cat back into the bag, denying that Mr Olmert had made any such admission and falling back on the Jewish state's policy of "nuclear ambiguity".

Widely considered the Middle East’s sole nuclear power, Israel has for decades refused to confirm or deny whether it possesses the atomic bomb. Mr Olmert appeared to break that taboo in an interview with a German television station as he began a visit to Berlin.

"We never threatened any nation with annihilation," Mr Olmert, speaking in English, told the N24 Sat1 station.

"Iran openly, explicitly and publicly threatens to wipe Israel off the map. Can you say that this is the same level, when they are aspiring to have nuclear weapons, as France, America, Russia and Israel?" Timesonline.co.uk


"Nuclear ambiguity".



As if.

- Lee



posted on Oct, 2 2009 @ 05:38 AM
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Hi maybe read the posts first before commenting

Yes it is common knowledge

Thanks

Ocker



posted on Oct, 2 2009 @ 05:39 AM
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Hi stinky
not as complex mate


Thanks

Ocker



posted on Oct, 2 2009 @ 05:43 AM
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Hi Sundancer
Yes too right time will tell. Interesting times. The Man in the oval office Im sure will let us all know.

Thanks

Ocker



posted on Oct, 2 2009 @ 05:46 AM
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i think a big problem lies in a cultural atitude of paranioa & the fact that as a collective people are increasingly feeling the need to protect themselves with a nuclear arsenal. another factor is a desire to acumulate power. i found a video on the indoctrination of ideas for the use of propoganda you may find interesting....
www.youtube.com...



posted on Oct, 2 2009 @ 08:16 AM
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The sad part is that Americans not only have allowed it but have by and large paid for it.
I have followed the Camp David Accord nonsense since I was a child.
I realized at an early age what an effort in futility they really are.
I watched as the land grab got worse and more brutal.
I have seen these actions literary destroy the US in the United Nations.
The cohesiveness of America and its' allies has been nearly annihilated.
Look at Americas rate of decline in world status----
The inherent increasing beef between Israel and the Islamic world.
The fact that and an unequal distribution of political power exists in America.
The fact of who gets elected by Americans and the unfortunate
appointment of power with no American say in a phoney political system.
The increase in internal gender, race, drug and financial problems.
It would not surprise me if Israel was holding the American people hostage with there nukes.
Using Bolshevik tactics and Marxist psychology.
Russia is all to familiar with this scenario.
I have no doubt that Israel is struggling with it's survival and the USA can be pivotal in that endeavor.
BUT miss use of those that have provided sanctuary and support is arrogance of the highest level.



posted on Oct, 2 2009 @ 10:51 AM
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Originally posted by ocker

Israel's Hidden Nuclear Weapons Factory / Video


www.thepeoplesvoice.org

Israel and United States nuclear hypocrisy is clearly evident when one realizes the full extent of Israel's hidden Dimona nuclear weapons factory as well as the fact that Iran, unlike Israel, is a signatory to the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) and has been pushing for the removal of all weapons of mass destruction across the globe:
As the Obama administration lays the groundwork to isolate Iran economically from the rest of the world over that nation's nuclear program ~ don't forget that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has recently ordered Iran's foreign currency reserves,
(visit the link for the full news article)



[edit on 30/9/2009 by Mirthful Me]


I am thinking that you are from down under and might like some news from there. Although mate I should not judge you by your avatar.

Apartheid Australia Backs Racist Zionist Run Apartheid Israel

By Dr Gideon Polya

29 June, 2009
Countercurrents.org

Apartheid Australia is currently involved in the Iraqi Genocide (post-invasion excess deaths 2.3 million) and the Afghan Genocide (post-invasion excess deaths 3-7 million) and has special race-based, Apartheid-style laws that grossly violate the human rights of its most vulnerable Indigenous inhabitants, those of the Northern Territory (annual death rate about the same as for Australian sheep). Now a team of pro-war, pro-coal, pro-Zionist, right-wing Apartheid Australian politicians from both major political parties and led by Australian Deputy PM Julia Gillard, is visiting Apartheid Israel with a attendant expressions of “mutual admiration” between Apartheid Australia and Apartheid Israel ..

Please pull up this article to read nuke connection.



posted on Oct, 2 2009 @ 11:16 AM
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I found this talk very interesting and informative about the history and current state of Nuclear Weapons worldwide. Just though some of you might enjoy it as well:

Irwin Redlener on surviving a nuclear attack - TED

Enjoy!



posted on Oct, 2 2009 @ 11:29 AM
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The Mandate of Palestine wasn't a "Palestinain state". Is was a remant of the Ottoman Empire run by the British at the behest fo the League of Nations. The UN partition plan is just that, a plan never actually implememented. But as even the current PLO uses it as the basis for its own existance I will throw this out for everyone to consider. The UN partition allows for a Jewish state (Israel), and an Arab state (Palestine). On 14 May 1948, the Jewish part came into existance. It was promptly attacked by allies of what would be the Palestinian part. It won said war and gained control of the territory. You win a war you get to keep the terriroty you've taken. You lose the war, well your pretty much out of luck. The same peice of paper that would allow for an arab state in 1947 allos for a jewish state as well. However, any Arab claim became null when they attacked and lost. There are no valid reasons to deny Israel's claim to the land.

They are being attacked from inside their own borders. They're The Palestinians cry foul when civilians are harmed, but have no compunction about letting rockets fly indescriminately into Israeli neighborhoods. Palestinian and Israeli innocents have been killed, but Palestinian casualties are usually near military targets (leaders, rocket launch sites, ammo dumps). What military target exists on a crowded school bus? What military target exists in a market? Neither side has clean hands. Isreal has show time and again it will stop shooting when the other side does as well. The silence of Israeli guns is met by rockets coming over the wall.
Throw a few bombs in your neighbors yard and see if he doesn't tire of it and throw some back.



posted on Oct, 2 2009 @ 11:54 AM
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Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler


Iran is a peaceful nation towards its neighbors and Israel is not.

You have got to be kidding? Iran and other mid-east countries want to wipe
Israel off the face of the earth.Israel has a right to defend itself.Iran
even denies the holocaust ever occured.


The nation that most needs held accountable and sanctioned in the region is Israel and not Iran.

A lot of nations are guilty of human rights violations.


It seems to me Israel has stolen America’s back bone and dignity along with the Palestinians land.


Our two countries are bound together in destiny.America is losing it's
backbone because of political correctness and global elitists.God gave
Israel that land and no man can take it from them!



posted on Oct, 2 2009 @ 01:58 PM
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Mr. Freedman, born in 1890, was a successful Jewish businessman of New York City who was at one time the principal owner of the Woodbury Soap Company. He broke with organized Jewry after the Judeo-Communist victory of 1945, and spent the remainder of his life and the great preponderance of his considerable fortune, at least 2.5 million dollars, exposing the Jewish tyranny which has enveloped the United States.

Mr. Freedman knew what he was talking about because he had been an insider at the highest levels of Jewish organizations and Jewish machinations to gain power over our nation. Mr. Freedman was personally acquainted with Bernard Baruch, Samuel Untermyer, Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, Joseph Kennedy, and John F. Kennedy, and many more movers and shakers of our times.

This speech was given before a patriotic audience in 1961 at the Willard Hotel in Washington, D.C., on behalf of Conde McGinley's patriotic newspaper of that time, Common Sense. Though in some minor ways this wide-ranging and extemporaneous speech has become dated, Mr. Freedman's essential message to us -- his warning to the West -- is more urgent than ever before. -- K.A.S. ---



www.sweetliberty.org...



Maybe more of you should read this. 1961, and a Jew, great speech. There are so many more like him too. Jews have been kicked out of almost every country on the planet until around 1750. Why?

And do people realize that ALL gypsies are of the jewish faith? And what do gypsies do best? Steal and lie through their proverbial teeth. Not to say there aren't some honest gypsies but very few.

The tower of Babel, anyone understand what that was even for? To SHOW the world "THEY" are superior. And what do you think they will do when they get the land they want, rebuild the tower and hopefully rule the world, sound about right? Sounds ridiculous to me even saying it but that is what "THEY" believe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[edit on 2-10-2009 by daddio]



posted on Oct, 2 2009 @ 03:44 PM
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King James Version,Gen11:1,"And the whole earth was of one language,
and of one speech".Please note,it was the whole earth,not just the jews!
Gen11:4,"And they said,Go to,let us build us a city and a tower,whose
top may reach unto heaven;lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of
the whole earth".
Gen11:5,"And the Lord came down to see the city and the tower,which
the children of men builded".
Gen11:6,"And the Lord said,Behold,the people is one,and they have all one language;and this they begin to do:and now nothing will be restrained
from them,which they have imagined to do".

The whole earth,working together,built the tower of Babel.They were
trying to prove they didn't need God and they were learning too fast.
This scenario should sound familiar...One world language,one world religion,one world government.Hummmm,where have I heard this before?
History does seem to repeat it's self!



posted on Oct, 2 2009 @ 03:57 PM
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Originally posted by Donny 4 million

Originally posted by ocker

Israel's Hidden Nuclear Weapons Factory / Video


www.thepeoplesvoice.org

Israel and United States nuclear hypocrisy is clearly evident when one realizes the full extent of Israel's hidden Dimona nuclear weapons factory as well as the fact that Iran, unlike Israel, is a signatory to the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) and has been pushing for the removal of all weapons of mass destruction across the globe:
As the Obama administration lays the groundwork to isolate Iran economically from the rest of the world over that nation's nuclear program ~ don't forget that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has recently ordered Iran's foreign currency reserves,
(visit the link for the full news article)



[edit on 30/9/2009 by Mirthful Me]


I am thinking that you are from down under and might like some news from there. Although mate I should not judge you by your avatar.

Apartheid Australia Backs Racist Zionist Run Apartheid Israel

By Dr Gideon Polya

29 June, 2009
Countercurrents.org

Apartheid Australia is currently involved in the Iraqi Genocide (post-invasion excess deaths 2.3 million) and the Afghan Genocide (post-invasion excess deaths 3-7 million) and has special race-based, Apartheid-style laws that grossly violate the human rights of its most vulnerable Indigenous inhabitants, those of the Northern Territory (annual death rate about the same as for Australian sheep). Now a team of pro-war, pro-coal, pro-Zionist, right-wing Apartheid Australian politicians from both major political parties and led by Australian Deputy PM Julia Gillard, is visiting Apartheid Israel with a attendant expressions of “mutual admiration” between Apartheid Australia and Apartheid Israel ..


Please pull up this article to read nuke connection.


HI Donny 4 million
Im in sunny Queensland

Sad but true Apartheid Australia.
Julia Gillard visiting Israel what a media puppet.

Apartheid, Australian-Style
by Joel Wright


In 1992 when the High Court ruled that Australia was not terra nullius and recognised Native title still existed, the Government, under Section 51 (ss.xxvi) of the constitution, immediately moved Native Title legislation that extinguished Indigenous rights, and protected non-indigenous rights. The anti-native title legislation contains amendments that seriously undermine Indigenous rights recognised by the High Court in its original judgement.

* Stringent eligibility, proof of identity and ancestry criteria, which requires the engagement of expensive specialist researchers, lawyers, anthropologists, archaeologists and genealogists.
* A sunset clause where Indigenous groups who have not been able to lodge a native title claim ten years after the enactment of Wik will lose all native title rights.
* All claims must be assessed by the Government’s National Native Title Tribunal.
* In the event there are disputes relative to the proof of ancestry and identity, DNA testing will be used to determine the amount of heritage biologically evident.

www.nteu.org.au...


Disgusting tactics




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[edit on 2/10/2009 by ocker]



posted on Oct, 2 2009 @ 04:59 PM
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Obama agrees to cover up Israel's nukes: report



Israel has reportedly received an assurance by US President Barack Obama that it would not be pressured into accounting for its alleged nuclear arsenal or signing the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT).

In a meeting with, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu obtained President Obama's guarantee that the White House would continue a 4-decade-old secret deal to allow Israel keep a nuclear arsenal without opening it to international inspections, The Washington Times reported on Friday quoting officials familiar with the matter.

"The president gave Israel an NPT treaty get out of jail free card," said a Senate staffer speaking on the condition of anonymity. "What this means is that the president gave commitments that politically he had no choice but to give regarding Israel's nuclear program."

"However, it calls into question virtually every part of the president's nonproliferation agenda."

Israel, which has allegedly introduced nuclear weapons in the volatile Middle East, maintains a policy of deliberate ambiguity and has so far refused to sign the NPT- a treaty which seeks to limit the spread of such weapons of mass destruction.

The tacit agreement prolonged the nuclear understanding reached between President Richard Nixon and Prime Minister Golda Meir in 1969.

In a reference to the May meeting with President Obama, the Israeli premier said in an interview with Israel's Channel 2 last week he had received "an itemized list of the strategic understandings that have existed for many years between Israel and the United States" regarding the nuclear arsenal.

"It was not for naught that I requested, and it was not for naught that I received [that document]," Netanyahu said.

Avner Cohen, author of the revelatory Israel and the Bomb, which has drawn upon thousands of documents and tens of interviews on the Israeli nuclear firepower, said the accord amounted to "the United States passively accepting Israel's nuclear weapons status as long as Israel does not unveil publicly its capability or test a weapon."


www.presstv.ir...



posted on Oct, 2 2009 @ 06:10 PM
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Originally posted by Drexl
Obama agrees to cover up Israel's nukes: report



Israel has reportedly received an assurance by US President Barack Obama that it would not be pressured into accounting for its alleged nuclear arsenal or signing the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT).

In a meeting with, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu obtained President Obama's guarantee that the White House would continue a 4-decade-old secret deal to allow Israel keep a nuclear arsenal without opening it to international inspections, The Washington Times reported on Friday quoting officials familiar with the matter.

"The president gave Israel an NPT treaty get out of jail free card," said a Senate staffer speaking on the condition of anonymity. "What this means is that the president gave commitments that politically he had no choice but to give regarding Israel's nuclear program."

"However, it calls into question virtually every part of the president's nonproliferation agenda."

Israel, which has allegedly introduced nuclear weapons in the volatile Middle East, maintains a policy of deliberate ambiguity and has so far refused to sign the NPT- a treaty which seeks to limit the spread of such weapons of mass destruction.

The tacit agreement prolonged the nuclear understanding reached between President Richard Nixon and Prime Minister Golda Meir in 1969.

In a reference to the May meeting with President Obama, the Israeli premier said in an interview with Israel's Channel 2 last week he had received "an itemized list of the strategic understandings that have existed for many years between Israel and the United States" regarding the nuclear arsenal.

"It was not for naught that I requested, and it was not for naught that I received [that document]," Netanyahu said.

Avner Cohen, author of the revelatory Israel and the Bomb, which has drawn upon thousands of documents and tens of interviews on the Israeli nuclear firepower, said the accord amounted to "the United States passively accepting Israel's nuclear weapons status as long as Israel does not unveil publicly its capability or test a weapon."


www.presstv.ir...



Hi
Great find stared

Double standards at play this takes the cake unbelievable .

Thanks

Ocker



posted on Oct, 2 2009 @ 08:19 PM
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LOL...ok so let me get this straight, there's only computer simulated 3D imaging to go on? No pics, no real video?
So we just take some guy's word that this is going on. Wow that's silly.

Hey I can do the same thing to prove there's 13 floors of secret facilities below each Wal-Mart store...



posted on Oct, 2 2009 @ 10:30 PM
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There was indeed a Palestine! 1920-1948 just look at any world map from that era. One could say British Palestine, or on the same note British India but it was Palestine none the less.

It makes me a little paranoid saying all of this, and anytime I am on ATS I have my IP spoofed guys. Just in case it could be seen by someone or I visited a link designed to find me out etc.

I do understand, and I apologies about bashing Israel. I know it is a two sided affair, and that in the past Jewish folks have suffered terribly at the Palestinian hands. What option do you really have? I don’t know, it just touches something when you see the hate and all. Don’t hide the truth that’s all I can say about it.

I guess the system we used here in America worked great so long as you were not an Indian. We did have to give them reserves though, albeit still part of the US. Somehow the hate stopped, well at least the murderous hate and maybe there is a lesson in this history. I am almost certain it was through state sponsored education of their youth that we made them part of our culture. I have heard native languages were even banned in the schools. Oh and an endless stream of whiskey!



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posted on Oct, 3 2009 @ 02:09 AM
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It kind of makes a farce of the role the US pretends to play in the world. I do not know how they carry on with the masquerade while keeping a straight face . You would not believe it , but there are actually people that do not see the hypocrisy of it all and blithely continue in their assertion that the US is some kind of benevolent impartial instrument for world peace . I put that down to the brain being dulled by the years of being taught they are the purveyors of peace , freedom and democracy . Such that anything that contradicts such an image is marginalized, minimized, forgotten about, ignored, or just plain outright denied .

The problem being of course , that while it all seems to be the correct and legitimate course of action when viewed from within a society accustomed to this perverse pseudo reality , it increasing looks ever more absurd to those outside of the bubble of deception . It may be many many years before the US retrieves even a modicum of credibility after what we have heard and seen come out of it in the past 8 years.


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