Gee, I wonder if the guys who made this thing at the lab knew that Antibiotics would mutate it? Probably not....

Alright, so, we as a nation use antibiotics for virtually everything, and the medical industry will prescribe them at the drop of a dime.

Coincidence? Probly not.

It's a smart way of doing business I say. Create a virus that's not very dangerous but has the potential to be, then give it a weakness which will allow it to mutate 1000 times faster.

And the weakness turns out to be what most doctors and nurses will prescribe to their patients for the specific virus.

How interesting.

~Keeper

Many people are taking antibiotics in their homes for a variety of complaints, who have now caught swine flu. They are up to 10000 times more likely to mutate this disease. Bacteria which are the mutation agents will be affected by the antibiotics, some dying and some mutating. Heat shock is another way of inducing mutation, these amounts to antibiotic shock.
No antibiotic has been banned from human use; our medical practitioners have not been warned.

How exactly antibiotics would influence a VIRUS???? It can cause mutations in bacteria, sure. Due to all kinds of things. But bacteria is totally different life form family then viruses, who are even not considered life form by majority of scientist. The whole concept is wrong.

In the video, the Aussie in question is actually talking about different strains of H1N1 becoming Tamiflu resistant so I don't think the "antibiotics" snippet is related - that being said, I'm not that familiar with Tamiflu (never had a flu shot), but wouldn't H1N1 be somewhat resistant to it anyway since it's specifically designed to attack the unique genetic compositions of other strains, not H1N1?

Originally posted by ZeroKnowledge
How exactly antibiotics would influence a VIRUS???? It can cause mutations in bacteria, sure. Due to all kinds of things. But bacteria is totally different life form family then viruses, who are even not considered life form by majority of scientist. The whole concept is wrong.

Bacteria in nature insert genes into other organisms (mutate) to produce proteins on which they feed. The testing that has been completed has shown that over time bacteria have changed more than 12% of the dna of the species checked.

Originally posted by Legion2112
In the video, the Aussie in question is actually talking about different strains of H1N1 becoming Tamiflu resistant so I don't think the "antibiotics" snippet is related - that being said, I'm not that familiar with Tamiflu (never had a flu shot), but wouldn't H1N1 be somewhat resistant to it anyway since it's specifically designed to attack the unique genetic compositions of other strains, not H1N1?

The differant strains are mutations, I'm saying we are getting an increase of these mutations from antibiotic use and eating GMO's. The mutations are being reckognised because they have become Tamiflu resistant. Our vaccines will not cover some of these mutations. The live virus vaccines also have the same risk of mutation currently at every 35000 people.

Well, we have several kgs of bacteria in our gut. So far no X-men running around. As for viruses - virus does not produce anything. It cannot produce "protein on which bacteria feeds", even if there (unknown to me though, but could be. zeroknowledge and such) are cases of bacteria insering genes into other CELLS. And virus is not a cell. Also, bacteria has DNA based genes. And flu virus has RNA. There. This alone should stop the "bacteria can mutate flu" thingy.

The pandemic swine flu is a x-men this is a new thingy, the two new types of swine flu found in Holland is a new thingy, the virus is changing new genes are being incorporated into it's dna. Antibiotics lowers the species barrier making this process up to 10000 times more likely. I do not see that bacteria can't be the carrier of that new gene but if it isn't, something else is.

Bacteria and Virus can intercept. There are in fact viruses that will infect bacteria. This is irellevant to the concept, though. Antibiotics will have ZERO effect on a flu. What they can affect, however, are the opportunistic bacterial infections (such as Strep Throat) that move in when the immune system is weakened by the flu.

This virus is mutating on it's own accord.

[Bacteria and Virus can intercept. There are in fact viruses that will infect bacteria. This is irellevant to the concept, though. Antibiotics will have ZERO effect on a flu. What they can affect, however, are the opportunistic bacterial infections (such as Strep Throat) that move in when the immune system is weakened by the flu.

This virus is mutating on it's own accord.

Also published in Uncensored Sept 2008
The following is a selection of mutated viruses from the last 5 years that have killed an average 25% of those infected. Notably the Nipah virus currently in Bangladesh is killing 75% of sufferers; the mutation is passed from human to human.
New viral infections transmitted between animals and human, include from pigs, goats, sheep, bats, chickens and of course rodents. The deadly chikungunya virus has travelled to India and Italy from Africa, 75% of some villages have contracted the disease.
A new cold virus killed 10 people in the United States last year. A major outbreak of febrile syndrome has mutated in Cyprus. There is an ongoing outbreak in China of an intestinal virus called enterovirus 71, or EV71. This virus causes a variant of hand, foot, and mouth disease. At least 25,000 children in China are suffering from this, and it is past from human to human.
A new flavivirus closely related to the tick-borne Kyasanur forest disease virus was isolated, in Saudi Arabia. West Nile virus has mutated and arrived in North America for the first time. This has infected 10s of thousands and killed hundreds. Bird flu, Sars and these others, are examples of viral mutations directly killing humans.
Many more mutations are infecting animals and plants alone. In New York State an epidemic has killed hundreds of thousands of 17 different species of fish. This has arrived in the Great Lakes.
Scientists are saying that the number of new viruses is unprecedented.