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Yes, absolutely. And I was hoping those people knowledgeable about those areas would ring in as well.
Originally posted by Cosmic4life
We will have to date and place the Vedas in there too.
The Egyptian(Khemit) Gods like Thoth.
Anomalous objects found in coal etc.
The First Humans made of maize wereaccording to the Popol Vuh: (K'iche' names)
B'alam Quitzé : Meaning "jaguar with the sweet smile," was the first of the men created from maize after the Great Flood sent by Hurakán. To destroy the men made of wood. The gods created Choim'há "beautiful water", specifically for him to marry. They had two sons Qo'caib and Qo'cavib.
B'alam Akab: Meaning "night jaguar," he was the second of the men created from maize. He married Ka'há-Palumá, ("falling water") They had two sons Qo'acul and Qo'acutec.
Iqui' B'alam: Meaning "moon jaguar," he was the third of the men created. The gods created Cak'ix'há "water of parrots," specifically to be his wife. They did not had sons.
Mahucatah: Meaning "distinguished name," he was the fourth of the men created. The woman Tzununi'há "house of the water," was created for him. They had one son, who was called Qo'ahau. Popol Vuh.
Yes, this is a effort to bring all the story's together, from all sources.
Originally posted by JBA2848
I thought I would throw this out there for you since your not just speaking of the christian bible but all religion based creation and first man.
Just from the looks of it I would say "Huakan" is gen1 I would think "Maize" take the place of "Dust" in the bible.
The First Humans made of maize wereaccording to the Popol Vuh: (K'iche' names)B'alam Quitzé : Meaning "jaguar with the sweet smile," was the first of the men created from maize after the Great Flood sent by Hurakán.
This may be a reference to the Ark, the wooden boat, and the people inside of it.
To destroy the men made of wood.
A deluge myth or flood myth is a mythical story of a great flood sent by a deity or deities to destroy civilization as an act of divine retribution. It is a widespread theme among many cultures, though it is perhaps best known in modern times through the biblical account of Noah's Ark, the Hindu Puranic story of Manu, through Deucalion in Greek mythology or Utnapishtim in the Epic of Gilgamesh.
This theory intends to show a logical progression of evolution and creationism side by side in the proper context as it might have occurred. This theory is not intended to prove the existence of the divine universal presents, and only acknowledges its existence.
1. History is fragmented and taken out of context through time and different language's.
2. Our genesis is intentionally kept hidden from us.
3. There are forces present today that work to keep humanity ignorant of their past.
Genesis 1 is the time period from the beginning of the planet to when a intelligent creature walked upright and use tools. In this period the life forms evolved slowly to a highly advanced self sustaining position capable of manipulating its surroundings and create technology and biological "Creations". This life form would have a primitive mindset compared to the modern man and could not have evolved on its own without external intervention.
Genesis 2 is the time line of the first "sentient" creation of genesis 1 namely that of the patriarchs of the biblical times and before to include
the great Greek and Roman gods.
Genesis 3 is modern man on the planet today and is the result of Gen2 exercising its creativity.
Overlap is the time when Gen1 was no longer the dominant force because Gen2 started to exert its own dominance and its own creative abilities to which
Gen1 objected forcefully.
Gen1 is generally considered to be "Satan" in the bible because it is associated with snakes and serpents, dragons and reptiles. And logically if it
came from a time of the great lizards then it would be appropriate to consider it in this manner.
Gen2 is a far more refined creation consisting of the attributes that are lacking in gen1, namely empathy, emotions, spirituality.
Gen3 is the world you see today, and consists of the attributes of both gen1 and ge2 in varying degrees depending on the amount and type of influences of both gen1 and gen2.
Assumptions will be allowed if they are supported with sound logic, and common sense, but if such time they no longer do this they will be removed. Faith based arguments are to be considered but not given the same strength as a assumption based in fact.
In the previous post you will notice a link to most all the creation/ flood stories from around the world. Each one telling a story, the same story but with different names and different settings. But due to the different languages it is not readily apparent that it is the same events they speak of.
You are correct in that Neanderthals are not in our DNA code. You may find many pre human forms scattered around the globe. I like to call them the previous years model. Not good enough in one facet or instinct, or attribute. I am not saying Neanderthal was used as a "Base" for modern man. Gen2 is suspected to be a rather large race with heights between 9 and 15 feet. I would suspect if any of the primates were used it would be Gigantopithecus, with all its sub species. en.wikipedia.org... For a better understanding of the origins of the physical body, or as some would call it "Missing Link", I would suggest you read some of Lloyd Pye's work on hominids.
So we killed the Neanderthals and your proposing that this was the Gen1 primate species that we were created from despite our species having no Neanderthal DNA present in us? Were the Gen1 Neanderthals used as just a template for form then?
For instance, the genetic history says our mankind can not be older than, 200,000 years
In a series of studies published in the Oct. 2 special issue of Science — 11 papers by a total of 47 authors from 10 countries — researchers unveiled Ardi, a 125-piece hominid skeleton that is 1.2 million years older than the celebrated Lucy
Then you must ask yourself why they bothered to try and answer something they had no knowledge of. What was the motivation?
Originally posted by buddhasystem
Human writers of Genesis didn't know anything about 99.9% of the Universe's evolution, formations of stars, galaxies and nebulas.
Nothing deep is the problem. We have some writings from even before that time period that are quite detailed and precise,but when it comes to the bible we are given nothing but parables and fairy tales, and told it is the law. Does something not look right to you about this?
Likewise, a large portion of the Old Testament is describing Jews selling donkeys and camels to other tribes and failing to worship in the prescribed manner, for which they were summarily punished once in a while, and abotu one tribe wiping out its neighbors etc. Nothing deep.
In fact, logically speaking, a 10,000,000 piece puzzle is far more than any one human being could ever expect to solve, individually. So yes, it is more than I could handle, but that wont stop me
Originally posted by spannera
Hi there All Seeing Eye.
Kudos to you for attempting such a project as you have outlined. Just hope you hav n’t taken on more than you can handle.
Although, I find your generation 2 more interesting because I believe it can be studied by both objective and subjective means I will never the less stick to your framework so as to not derail your thread.
Gen1 sources can be found in the in the bible by terms such as "Serpent", snake, dragon, etc.
With regard to what you refer to as Gen 1 could you perhaps elaborate on this part of your thesis and explain your sources of information. In particular could you explain where these entities are at present situated and their interaction with Gen 3.
A segment of the Dead Sea Scrolls - from the Testament of Amram:
"I saw ’Watchers’ in my vision... Two beings were fighting over me, saying... and holding a great contest over me. I asked them, ’Who are you, that you are thus empowered over me?’ They answered me, ’We have been empowered and rule over all mankind.’
They said to me, ’Which of us do you choose to rule you?’ I raised my eyes and looked. One of them was terrifying in his appearance, like a serpent, his cloak many-colored yet very dark... And I looked again, and... in his appearance, his visage like a viper..."
The modern secret societies which are being manipulated by the infernal reptilian races are apparently extensions of more ancient societies who were also manipulated and influenced by these subterranean creatures. Several ancient races in fact believed in the existence of an "underworld" inhabited by serpent-like beings possessed with supernatural powers. Many of these mis-guided souls even worshipped these creatures, not so much out of adoration, but more out of fear or terror. Human sacrifices were even offered in an attempt to appease the destructive influence of these "demon gods", and temples and shrines were often built over or near caverns which were regarded by these superstitious people to be openings to this nether world.
Reptilian humanoids are a common motif in mythology, folklore, science fiction, fantasy, conspiracy theories, and cryptozoology and ufology. Depending on context they are known by many names, including Snakepeople, Reptoids, Dinosauroids, Lizardfolk, Lizard People, Lizardmen, or, in the context of conspiracy theories, Anunnaki.
No, never seen it before. It is very interesting in the fact that it address the subject of "Abzu". I am disappointed in the "Chart". It could be a bit more straight forward in its presentation and organization. It looks as complicated as some of the financial crime charts I have seen
I was also wondering if you had read this source, which I found interesting.