Is boredom a good enough reason to commit suicide?

reply to post by spiritwomyn


Here is the link to my thread.

sorry that didn't work; check forum index.

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reply to post by chillpill


I'm not so sure that it is boredom perse but rather that life in it's daily grind offers nothing to feed the soul. It appears like an undending slow and painful death of sorts. The death of the soul slowly feeling like life is draining and all splendour is forever lost. A mundane jungle without an end in sight.

I believe this is more a situation of hopelessness. Life can do that to us in a heartbeat.

I can understand what this man is saying because I believe that many are feeling this way in our out of balance civilization. We are disconnected from everything that keeps a human bound to this world and only connected to the fallicy of what comprises that civilization. In short we are living half lives and surrounded by false entertainment and deflections.

If we lived in a society where we depended on one another and lived within nature perhaps these thoughts would never occur to someone. The reality of it is that we live in a fabricated world set up with lies and a technology to keep us imprisoned and alienated from each other's world's.

Most of us rely on the cyber world for our true communications which in itself speaks volumes. It's an unnatural world cut off from everything that would make us feel whole. We are all struggling with our lives and trying to find a balance that no longer exists. At least not in the way that our civilization has taken us to.

I don't believe this man is saying anything that we all have not thought of once or twice in our lives. I think he is tired of it all and who isn't?

If we find ourselves persisting in this crazy house of cards it is a huge feat of the human condition. I can't imagine what this would be like for anyone who is feeling alone in the universe without their faith to pull them through.

Perhaps that is the most devastating thing of all. If we think it is hard and depressing now, it won't compare to what is coming.

My heart goes out to this man and the many who suffer the predicament that we are all finding ourselves in. Perhaps the only solution is to give of yourself with all that you have and ask nothing in return. The world sure is in desperate need. Perhaps if we stop living for ourselves we will be freed. Just perhaps?


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Many people fail to realize, when you make the choice of commiting suicide, your making the choice to put your family and everyone that loves you in a great deal of pain for years to come. That alone should be a good enough reason not to.

People think its so easy to notice when someone is getting to the point of wanting to kill themselves. I can tell you, sometimes the signs arent there. Many people will seem very happy. The human can hide there pain so well.

By 2010 depression will be the number one disability in the world. What went wrong? I dont have the answers for that.

Other people have said it already in this thread, but in my opinion suicidal "boredom" is a face of depression. It is part of the absolute inability to maintain an interest in oneself and the people around one that is characteristic of severe depression.

I find it impossible to judge people's "reasons" to commit suicide -- they are too personal, too subjective.

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"There is but one truly serious philosophical problem and that is suicide."
- Albert Camus

Why kill yourself?

Curiosity?

Why not kill yourself?

Fear?

Well, i can very well understand his feelings. I feel bored, too.

Life could be a hell of a good experience. But when you get born in our time, you are born a slave. You cannot really choose what you would like to experience, you get only to choose from a list of things that egoistic greedy power hungry people made. You can for the most part try to play part in the greed game, if you don't want that you can still try to live a different life and to help to make the world a better place, but that option is very limited.

I personally would like to build a hut in a woody area, grow lovely fruits, smoke some ganja and help my neighbours, living in harmony with nature and so forth. But can i do that? Only harshly limited. Today i can only be glad i can atleast grow some fruits in the House, or go outside for a walk in the wood. But i don't even know if i will be able to do that in the future. The greed and destruction doesn't seem to end soon.

Let's face it, humanity created hell on earth, endless struggling, suffering for everyone and everything. satan couldn't make it better.

When you realize how hollow and pointless our way to live is, you are bound to get bored if you are trapped in society without escape.

That's one side of the coin, the other side is we are all in the same frelling boat, and if anything we can atleast give our life meaning by helping others that need us and to try to ease the suffering, educate people. If all good people go, there will be no hope for a better future. That's why i stay.

I want to share a very personal experience, that was an eye opener for me.

It was around 10 years ago. My life sucked, i saw no end to my suffering, i felt deeply depressed and i only wished to be gone.

One evening i was sitting in my bed, crying and wishing i would be able to die. After like an hour of doing that, i made a very strong wish, calling out to anyone or anything to please tell me why i cannot die, why i have to suffer. Soon after that i fell asleep.

Next thing i remember is very hard to describe, but i will try. Imagine a camera flight scene, that camera was my vision. First thing i saw was a pitch black body, wich was not exactly shaped like my real body, i believed it to be my soul. My vision flew over it. Then the vision turned to my surrounding. I got aware of beeing in some kind of space, it was like beeing in some kind of eye of a tornado, my surrounding was moving like that and it was also mostly black. In the middle of it was my soul laying. Everything was dark around it. The vision flew back to my soul and i was more in some kind of ego perspective of that soul. I asked „ can i die already?“ a very calm and peaceful voice, a male voice with no exact location, answered „no, your time hasn't come yet“. I asked another question „why is it so dark around me?“ i mean't why is everything so negative for me. The voice answered „that is yourself“. Then i awoke. It was 3 am and my bed felt very energetic.

What did this teach me? It teached me that even when we cannot always realize what our purpose is, we have one. We are part of the balance. And it showed me that it was partly my own fault to be in such a negative state, instead of trying to change things, i bathed in self pity(?). I didn't even see that it is atleast partly in my power to change or atleast try to change things that make me unhappy.

Life might get harder, with all the crap going on, but im sure a more positive balance will come, i cannot imagine god want's this to continue. And if you put your energy into making the world a better place, out of love, for everyone and everything, god might back you up. In any case, change will come, so don't loose hope. If you wan't a better future, a more meaningful life, why not put your time into working on that?

Lasting happiness comes from compassion and love. Afterall we are one, suicide means letting yourself down and creating more suffering for yourself.

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Night flower. You have no idea how much that post has helped me tonight.

reply to post by chillpill

I was doing a bit of research into suicide - I am convinced that more and more people are being so 'bored' and uninspired in their daily grind that there are many people out there contemplating suicide as they cannot imagine getting any great pleasure from remaining alive.

Another possibility is nutritional deficiency.
One cannot have a healthy mind without a healthy body.

reply to post by fraterormus

Life doesn't come with a meaning. It is what we chose to make of it.

This is a very empty argument, since you have almost no real freedom as you are born. Life is simply what happens before you die, for a large part of it you are not in control and at best you can influence some outcomes.

You could probably do make large changes to your own life but that would certainly involve committing some crime or infringing on the liberty of others.

This topic is a hard one for me.
My mother basically committed suicide. She never got to the age I am now.
She did so just when she had reached all of her goals, all her dreams!

She had gotten rid of the first mistake batch of kids- we were all grown and out.
She had married the man of her dreams, who she had dated (and challenged his fear of commitment) for nine years before he gave in.
She had a child with him, that they both adored and he was everything she ever wanted in a child.
They had a big expensive home in a beautiful area (a far cry from the first poverty-ridden half of her life).

And two days before her suicide, she officially got a Dr. in front of her name..... which was the biggest goal of her life!

So it is like, did she just get there and say, I did it. Why continue further? The story is done?

But she had also been suicidal when I was little, and not out of boredom. She was very unhappy, and she made several attempts, which I witnessed. I grew up thinking it was my duty in life to be there for her and keep her from killing herself.... but I finally felt she was happy and I could move on. She did it right after I moved to France!
So I ended up with a lot of issues to deal with, and I still ask myself what her motives where.

I was taking Champix to quit smoking, and while on it, I woke up one morning with the idea that I needed to kill myself. No warning, no depression slowly coming on, just one day I woke up and said "I've done everything I wanted to do, my kids don't need me, my husband is cute- he can find another woman quickly, no one else needs me around. So why not? Why continue? It's pointless. "

It was a side effect of the medication! It took about three days of fighting off my (very logical) justifications... with the help of my doctor and husband. But ever since, I wonder if that wasn't exactly what she experienced.

.....and our collective consciousness- is this why we have doom porn now? Because of the point in our society where most of our dreams have become reality, and now we're losing the desire to fuel our future???

As far as we know, life is all we have. I never understood why people who felt like committing suicide didn't just do whatever in the absolute eff they wanted in general, after all, what could the worst possible consequence be? Death? Most atheists just want you to convince them there is a God anyway, because they are spoiled brats who don't want to do the work themselves. It is HARD to believe in God, until you put in your percentage of the work. It's not a magical lamp, it's a relationship. How many other things in life have you experienced, where you could expect to get 100% of the results without putting in 1% of the work?

To make a long story short, I believe alot of people take boredom into account. I believe most people are not as mentally stable as they would personaly find socially acceptable.

It's it right? No. You were given a life. If you chose to spend that life building a family, you owe it to their well being to not opt out of your choices. Bored is no excuse for that.

I also would say that death, because of recent raised interests in spirituality and consciousness, is becoming less feared and more so looked forward to in a sence.

Most theologies and religions teach the rewards of dying happy. But punish for suicide. Maybe because we know it's messed up to leave behind your loved ones in such a manner?

It's the void, sucking the life out of you.

Seriously, life isn't boring, there's always something to do, if you give wings to your imagination.

I find it slightly annoying while there are many of us who are fighting for our lives and going through all sorts of treatments to grasp as much life as we can. Others would consider suicide because they are bored. Maybe a struggle with cancer might lessen the boredom in your lives. I'm certainly never bored. Foremost of my life I've been on a terrifying roller coaster. With more scares than thrills. I would love to have some time to feel bored instead of frustrated and scared.

a reply to: woodwardjnr

I doubt anyone's ever killed themselves due to boredom. Maybe a small few? We're talking people after all.

Last week I visited the cemetery where someone I used to know was buried. He killed himself as an act of spontaneous stupidity because a girl he liked didn't like him back. Silly bugger went too far and likely never really considered the...finality. It was funny, I'd gotten lost driving back from a meeting in Accrington, turned a corner and recognised the back of the church where the service was held. Went in to say 'Hey Ashy, I remember you.'

Apart from young people doing the above, I reckon most people act out of mental illness or to escape a physical condition. When people say 'boredom,' it's probably dismissive in that way people have of complaining when trains are late due to jumpers. You'll hear it, "Selfish bastards." Otherwise, we do a lot of things to escape boredom and suicide ain't one of them.

a reply to: Kandinsky
As soon as I saw the title to this thread it reminded me of a quote/suicide note and to my understanding this person committed suicide due to boredom.

George Sanders - "Dear World, I am leaving you because I am bored. I feel I have lived long enough. I am leaving you with your worries in this sweet cesspool - good luck."

a reply to: onequestion
I come from 3 generations of suicide. Great grandfather, grandfather, and my father whom I found dead, wasn't planned that way my mom was supposed to be home to have a talk with him but she never showed. None of them lived past 35.

I am approaching 30 and been battling depression all my life. I dont know if you post was directed at me, but the reason I posted and remembered that quote is because I FREQUENTLY am bored with life, have come to realize its all pointless, and if I didn't have a son I would have check out long ago. But I'm sticking around incase he inherents my traits, also because i love him of course, and god forbid he does i want to be there to explain to him that's its ok to get help and not be ashamed to see a professional or speak to me about it.

This thread is no going to make anybody kill themselves, if that's what somebody has made up 100% in there mind there is absolutely nothing you can do to stop it.

It is comments like yours that continue to stigmatize the disorder and prevent people from getting professional help

a reply to: 772STi

It's unacceptable to discuss suicide here.

Period.

If you need help please reach out to someone.

I will talk to you please talk to me if you don't k ow where else to turn.