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Part of this thread...that is if I get a lot of responses...is that when we each look calmly and clearly at what we each actually believe politically that there is more that unites us than divides us.
Originally posted by grover
reply to post by mattifikation
Need I reiterate this point:
Part of this thread...that is if I get a lot of responses...is that when we each look calmly and clearly at what we each actually believe politically that there is more that unites us than divides us.
CIA plant my ample ass. Give me a break....what I want to see are specifics like the ones I gave...if each did that I am certain you would see far more in common than we commonly assume to be the case.
Which in actuality is an argument against the so called left/right divide.
Misdirection of Politicians :
Is it in the left-hand, or the right-hand?
Are you a patriot, or a traitor?
Are you an American, or a foreigner?
Are you a Catholic, or a Protestant?
Are you a law-abiding citizen, or a criminal?
Are you a Republican, or a Democrat?
Political Rhetoric :
It is better the Devil we know, than the Devil we don't know.
The lesser of two evils...
Originally posted by mattifikation
So finally the truth comes out about you, grover. You're here to keep us divided. Are you one of those CIA plants we keep hearing about?
Folks, this thread can do NOTHING except further the left/right divide by demanding that people categorize themselves into one out of only two simple, easily controlled sides. Grover is asking the people of ATS, the people of America, and the people of the world to take sides against each other.
He should be ashamed. I urge you all not to buy into this sort of divisive, mindless crap. The world is not black and white, nor is it "blue" and "red."
Originally posted by uaocteaou
I lean left on social issues, but right on fiscal issues.
I know some of the less intelligent members will make assumptions based on an avatar, which is why I have it there in the first place.
I also don't think that the definitions given in the OP apply as they may have in the past, and because of the intensely complex subjects involved, such as corporate interference, I doubt that we can be either one or the other anymore.
Originally posted by ninecrimes
reply to post by johnny2127
The title of the post asks if we are "left" or "right".
Last time I checked, splitting two groups into two different labels is called "division".
Am I wrong?
Also, I'd like to know how this post is breaking news. Or alternative news.
Edit- the title is worse than I thought! It's "Left Vs. Right". Oh, my no, that isn't division at all!! I can totally see how this both breaking news and meant to unite us all as Americans!
[edit on 30-9-2009 by ninecrimes]
Originally posted by centurion1211
Call me a "constitutionalist".
If that document does not give a government entity a specific power, then they don't get to have it.
And no, I do not subscribe to the view that the constitution is a "living document", which is liberal-speak for ignoring the constitution when it gets in the way of their agenda.
It is what it is and says what is says - especially the 10th amendment.
Originally posted by centurion1211
Anyone remember the Thomas Jefferson quote:
"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take away everything you have".
Everyone really needs to think about this, IMO ...
Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master.
George Washington
The Right Wing = Individuals who see logic in electing people who don't believe in government, into government.
The Left Wing = Individuals who see logic in building a better society by having government do it for them.
Originally posted by johnny2127
Originally posted by ninecrimes
reply to post by johnny2127
The title of the post asks if we are "left" or "right".
Last time I checked, splitting two groups into two different labels is called "division".
Am I wrong?
Also, I'd like to know how this post is breaking news. Or alternative news.
Edit- the title is worse than I thought! It's "Left Vs. Right". Oh, my no, that isn't division at all!! I can totally see how this both breaking news and meant to unite us all as Americans!
[edit on 30-9-2009 by ninecrimes]
Typically people read more than the title. Grover clearly states that this is so people can calm down and talk rationally. Things are contentious enough without you making it more so for no reason, especially when the OP had the opposite intention.