Gore Vidal: ‘We’ll have a dictatorship soon in the US’

He's right.

I thought the nightmare would end with Bush, but obviously that isn't the case. It might even get worse, under Obama. It would be no better under McCain.

We really were screwed, in 2000, 2004, and 2008.

How much worse can it get?

I agree with this man 150,000%

The people in this country are all complete idiots. If i hear one more white trash moron complaining about someone getting $100 a month in food stamps I will lose my mind.

I miss William F. Buckley.

reply to post by warrenb


This man is praising Obama, and instead of blaming the government, and even Obama, he blames only the people...

Obama is not over-educated when he has stated that he visited 57 states in the nation, and needed to visit one more...and then he said he wasn't allowed to visit Alaska and Hawaii.... I didn't know we have 60 states......

www.youtube.com...

Is that an over educated man?..... Bush was bashed almost daily in these forums for not being able to say nuclear clearly, and now those same people don't say a thing about comments Obama has made similar to those of the above video...

Anyway, it seems like this man is trying to absolve Obama, and the government, and only wants to blame the people....

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reply to post by johnnyg5646


Be careful in using the word "all". Not "all" of us are troglodytes. The fact of the matter is saying the United States has no intellectual class whatsoever is highly inaccurate. The majority of Americans are uneducated (because they choose to be) but there are many of us that don't live in a world of daily stupor and ignorance. Don't judge all Americans by the stupidity of George W. (although it may be hard not to. Obama is no better btw).

P.S. It is impossible to agree 150,000%.



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Originally posted by whaaa


As an amature futurist; the scenario I see being played out is that the neo-cons never really relinquished power to anyone, especially Obama and the Democrats. That's just an illusion.
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Oh BS... Is this why SOCIALIST programs are being implemented by the Obama administration?....

Well, in some cases this man is right... many Americans are so brainwashed, and too stupid to see what is happening.....

BTW it is spelled "amateur".

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I read Mr, V's article earlier today.

For someone so highly intelligent, who thinks Americans are idiots, he should know candy /sugar, doesn't cause diabetes.

reply to post by ElectricUniverse


Actually, if you read the article, he says he's not expecting a hero. In fact, he says something to the effect that a hero would be assassinated. He is admitting that Obama is no hero, and he EXPECTS corruption from Obama.

I wouldn't necessarily call that praise.

I think Gore hopes that Obama will put this country back on the right path, but he is quick to criticize him (and he does criticize him, at the beginning of the interview. You'll never see Sean Hannity criticize Bush.. Hrmmmmmmmm. Anyways..)

You are being unfair on Obama with the "hur, he don't know that thar r 50 stats in da unionz!"

Give me a break. Of course he knows there are 50 states. You're simply grasping at straws, because Bush was an actual moron, while Obama isn't.

One word: NUKE-LEE-ARE

Bush can't even pronounce "nuke-u-lur" correctly. The man was f'ing retarded.

I rest my case.


Edit to add: Fool me once...............................................................

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Shame on...................
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You! Fool me twice..............
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*noise of gears and cogs grinding in Bush's moronic head*
..... YOU CAN'T GET FOOLED AGAIN!

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It's insane how everyone who's brainwashed into the left-versus-right false dichotomy (in particular) can always point the finger at SOMEONE ELSE as being the cause of the US being the Nation of F-ing Morons that Gore Vidal has mentioned. The REAL problem is something Vidal spoke of about 20 years ago, but strangely, he hasn't uttered a peep about it lately (that I'm aware of). The problem is in the very STRUCTURE of government as we know it. The REAL problem is the very EXISTENCE of the National "Security" STATE. That's the REAL government, not the cosmetic government, as Vidal explained the difference between about 2 decades ago. (I remember that interview because it was the one that first got me thinking about and questioning the entire psychopathic/pathocratic political-governmental system).

Gore Vidal, I've never seen a more bitter man in my life.In my opinion, he is a quasi-intellectual who lusts for the European frivolity that seems to permeate the desites of the would be intelligentsia of this country.



This country has only one hope.............FLASH......AHAHHHHH!

Originally posted by Kaytagg
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Give me a break. Of course he knows there are 50 states. You're simply grasping at straws, because Bush was an actual moron, while Obama isn't.

One word: NUKE-LEE-ARE

Bush can't even pronounce "nuke-u-lur" correctly. The man was f'ing retarded.

I rest my case.

For crying out loud.. see what I mean?...

Obama is showing to be a moron, and transforming the union into a dictatorship that Liberals claimed would happen under Bush, yet it is happening under Obama, not to mention he shows that he has no knowledge about the country he is president of, and many Liberals/Democrats still want to absolve him.....

BTW, you shouldn't be the one to talk, you still belive the lies of Al Dumbass Gore?....

BTW, I gave a VIDEO of Obama saying there are 60 states, and you claim he knows there are 50?.....

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The left v. right is a shell game to suck all the ignorant masses into it. You all fall for it hook, line and sinker. Read between the lies.

The freemasonic satanic cabal that runs pretty much the entire globe is controlling the US. My goodnes, does anyone here do their research?

Here is the order of things:

satan>illuminati/NWO>freemasons (which include the so-called power structure of corrupt and soul rotted politicians and government agencies, CEOs/industry leaders, infiltrated churches, mosques, temples, etc)>media> the sheeple.

WAKE UP!! RECLAIM YOUR SOUL!

reply to post by PenandSword


you forgot to add the zionists and a host of others but I'm sure they won't be offended for being left out

Originally posted by PenandSword
The left v. right is a shell game to suck all the ignorant masses into it. You all fall for it hook, line and sinker. Read between the lies.
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Well, thats what people who have never read the Constitution keep claiming...

Article 4 Section 4 of the United States Constitution clearly says...

U.S. Constitution - Article 4 Section 4

Article 4 - The States
Section 4 - Republican Government

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,............

www.usconstitution.net...\

But these same people bash Republicans not knowing what a Republican really represents, or should represent...

Republicans are advocates of the Republic, which is what the United States is... It isn't a Democracy...

For the most part the Republican party in power does not represent real Republicanism..

Ron Paul is one of the few Real Republicans in a seat of power.

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Just thought I'd point some things out because I was actually just writing something about this very thing and was going to post it here but decided against it because it didn't seem relevant.

Originally posted by Kaytagg You'll never see Sean Hannity criticize Bush.. Hrmmmmmmmm. Anyways..)

This isn't related to what I was going to post but, Sean Hannity has critized Bush plenty. Of course he's not going to criticize him as much as, say, people on MSNBC but that's because they see eye to eye on things.

You must remember that not everything Bush did was bad just like not everything Obama has done so far has been bad.

One word: NUKE-LEE-ARE

Bush can't even pronounce "nuke-u-lur" correctly. The man was f'ing retarded.

I rest my case.

This is what I wanted to talk about. Before I continue, I'm not supporting Bush with this. The irony of this is that I was typing about Gore Vidal originally but read this and decided to who I was writing about slightly.

While speech and speaking properly can be a sign of intelligence, being able to accurately parrot things is not. Being able to say a certain word correctly is not a sign of intelligence. Surprise surprise, you probably don't say the word "color" the same way I say the same word. You might not even say it the same way.

Am I less intelligent because I don't pronounce it the same way? No. Maybe I have an accent, a speech impediment, or any number of things. You'd be surprised but most Texans, including the incredibly intelligent ones, pronounce Nuclear the exact same way Bush does.

To go back to what I was writing about Gore Vidal, he's partially correct about his statement on intelligence. Yes, America isn't doing so hot. But, guess what? The rest of the world isn't. I can go to any country in the world and ask inane questions and get the exact same results that I would get from people in the U.S.

The idea that one country is willfully ignorant more than another based on... what? What is that even based on? The idea that we're fat, lazy, and stupid? Where did that stereotype even come from? The fat thing? Sure, that's fine. But lazy and stupid? What? Our average worker works more than the average worker in most European countries (maybe even all of them?). We've invented several incredibly crucial things to every day life and continue to revamp and retool them. The Japanese are very much the same as us. The only real difference between us is genetic. They are genetically predisposed to good health.

So, I say to Gore Vidal:

Take a step back and actually look at the rest of the world. You have lazy slag offs in every community, culture, nation. You have groups from all over the world that give their country a bad name. The English have the chavs. Americans have rednecks/gang members (they're really the same thing... typically poor and living in bad neighborhoods with no intention of becoming intelligent). Other countries have the same things but with different names.

The idea that America is somehow different 'just cuz' is absurd.

reply to post by ElectricUniverse


Who are the other "real" republicans?

And why, if there are so few "real" republicans, do all the Republican voters keep voting them in?

You know, you can't claim that you're part of a party when virtually nobody else in your party agrees with you. Face it -- Republicans are garbage, with a stupid party, that have only expanded the government/deficit and given welfare to giant corporations who were so bad at managing money, they sent the whole world into a death spiral which we just barely escaped from.

Republicans are just as bad as the democrats, except at least the democrats (not that I'm supporting them) aren't social conservatives that want to force the rest of America to obey their idiotic social standards.

reply to post by Credge


60% of americans do not believe in evolution.

You can't say that about 99% of the other countries in the world.

So -- are we "dumber" than the rest of the world? Why don't you think about that statistic for a minute, then get back to me.

If you can honestly say "No, everybody is as dumb as we are," then please explain why 60% of americans are over 100 years behind on common sense scientific knowledge.

Not only that, but we got a guy posting above us who thinks einstein's theory of relativity is wrong, and instead the universe works like a giant electronic appliance plugged into a cosmic electrical socket.

Again: Can you honestly say that this sort of lunacy can be found all over europe, asia, or the middle east? I don't even think the third world is this dumb.

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reply to post by Chovy


I tend to agree with you on this but it can also get worse and whats worse, is I fear it will.

quote from the article

"When you foreigners hear the word ‘conservative’ you think of kindly old men hunting foxes. They’re not, they’re fascists.”"

This is exactly what I thought of conservatives, old white men having cigars. playing golf and going hunting and stuff.. not crazy fascists

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reply to post by uaocteaou

To say anything like "well, the left acted like this against bush", is just dishonest.

No, its not at all. I'm annoyed that you're going to make me re-post things that are barely 8 years old.

1. “The Virtual Jihadi.”
He has been making art depicting Bush's assassination for years now

2. Calls for Bush's assasination from Air America Radio hosts

3. Merchandise which supported Bush's assassination

4. Democrat Governors making jokes about killing Bush

5. Yahoo news presenting pro-Bush assassination protesters as peaceful

6. More actual incitement to violence that came from Air America


7. MSM supported executing Bush and others in administration.

8. All kinds of calls from protesters to over throw the government or kill Bush