"I am not one for confrontation, that is not the nature of my reply. This is just my thought to be considered. Must all proof manifest in the
physical to be accepted? And if so, why?"
dear friend, what aparently can look like a "simple" question is in fact a very complex one
i will try to explain that to you the best i can:
to start the answer to your question is, no!
the worst place where we can seek a "proof" it is exatly in the phisycal world that all the humans can see ,feeling hear,taste and touch!!
the matterial world was a kind of ilusion, (gosh,,,this will be very hard to explain...) our boddy is in fact a Ilusion!, acording to the Tibetan
buddhism and the theory of the "superior me", all we humans are linked to a very high entitie that lives in very high dimensions! that entitie have
the habilitie to divide it self in ten small "particles", and that particles are "spreaded" in the 3rd dimensio(our world, and universe), the
logical behind this is :
if the only objective of the "life wheel" is living and living almoust in a infinite way, untill we can be so perfect that we can reach God
dimension; at the dimensions where that entities live they are able to divide in ten parts in order that it can "learn" 10 lifes ain one at the same
time of existence!
each of that "particles" are each of us! acording to the theory, he can feel all we feel at the same time that each of us experience things in our
lifes, and there are especial meditative techniques in order that we can open the correct energetic channel to comunicate with it! we call to that
entitie (the soperior me, or the right sanscrit word: "Kuthastha" .
now the complicated part:
because we can't fully understend the mechanics of very high dimensions due to the limitations of our normal 3rd dimensional inteligence, we just can
theoryze about how the things work in that extreme high dimensions so...
acording to the Tibetan theory, when the "kuthastha" wants to "divide" in another "particle" he just imagine that, and we born here! acording
to the theory he is like a "soul sheeper" in deeply comunication with God.
so because we are "born" from his imagination, the theory assumes that we must be seen as a kind of "ilusions", not ilusions to us, but to him.
acording to that theory the true world is behind all we can see here, and that culminates in the afirmation that we life too in a ilusionary world.
for exemple: certain Buddhist masters can do the telekinesis tryck of "bound a fork", or trespassing a wall, and acording to them ,in order they can
do that, they need to meditate deeply in order to "comunicate with the "Kuthastha", and after that(when fused with the "Kuthastha" mind), they
just think hard that the fork or the wall is a perfect ilusion, so, it don't exist at all, at a certain especific time they can bound the object, or
go in the wall as if that objects was not there at all.
for the people that can do astral trip, you will notice that some times you can see a "silver string" conecting you to your phisical body, but if
you get used to astral trips you will can see too the "Pulsating blue/silver string that conect us to that entitie too, normaly that string exits
from our head, arms or legs/feets, and the one conecting us to our boddy normaly exits from our torso.
i know this can look realy realy weird, but it is the best i can explain , because just with this subject we need to "write" or read several
books, just to understend the complete theory.
i hope you understend why i have sayed that the answer to your question it is no!, because "normal reality" can actualy tryck us a lot, because
"things" may not always seem what they appear to be!(i hope this phrase it is well translated,,,im not sure,sorry).
[edit on 24-6-2004 by kangaxx]