This is a reply to Kangaxx and the thread : Above Top Secret 3.0 � Predictions � Aliens will "comeback" in a official way this year!
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Kangaxx posted on 16-5-2004 at 08:38 AM Post Number: 532963 (post id: 553657)
'... have not been in a "bad" abductee experience.
the life forms that i have meet,was from one of the "good" factions.. '
So you are saying that there are good and bad factions
Ycon posted on 16-5-2004 at 11:06 PM Post Number: 534190 (post id: 554884)
'...they are all from the same source. The source is evil... '
and Kangax replies posted on 16-5-2004 at 11:32 PM Post Number: 534213 (post id: 554907)
'Ycon:you have unswered the same thing as i!'
(Jack - Well Ycon is saying that they're all evil, jsut pretending to be 'Good' and 'Bad' so how is that the same as what you are saying? Ycon
is saying you have been duped, there are no 'Good guys'. How can you turn this to reinforce you point? [This is a technique that will be attempted
again later with even less success])
Kangaxx posted on 16-5-2004 at 08:38 AM Post Number: 532963 (post id: 553657)
'i realy can give more information,my only problem is my llittle knoledge of the english language,'
Yet on page 5
Kangaxx posted on 18-5-2004 at 08:24 AM Post Number: 537292 (post id: 557986)
'i say that this is the year where they will show up!?..right? right!... but that is MY best guess'
(Jack - Kangaxx you really should be more precise on what you class as information. I dont' think that a guess can be classed as 'information' at
any streatch of the imagination.)
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kangaxx post page 2 posted on 17-5-2004 at 07:14 AM Post Number: 534849 (post id: 555543)
'each time you have suffered,cryed,or be sad...do you have realized very well why?!? try to analyze that and you will reach a normal simple idea;
each time you suffer,its because YOU have lost something you like,you have lost something you think you need,you have suffered pain in YOUR
boddy...and so on...always you will see that YOU is the central victim...that is pure selfishness.'
(Jack - What utter ignorance, just who do you think you are talking to here? It appears this is a general statement on mankind. What an utter load
of rubbish, this kind of crass statement exposes your own personal truths rather than any of mankinds failings. By submitting this statement and
expecting it to be accepted as 'truth' when so many will automatically view it as a gross innacurracy of the humanity man is capable of, you are
just giving an insight into the personally twisted, corrupt, poisoned view of modern humanity you hold.
You are either saying that you have never heard a story of human kindness/tragedy that has led you to 'suffer, cry or be sad' that is not actually
immediately involving your person; or at least you expect that no-one else has had the opportunity or feels the compassion to do so. That is one of
the most selfish revelations that I have ever heard, and to assume that you can apply that judgement upon the rest of mankind and expect it to be seen
as some kind of astounding, deep and meaningful revelation is just beyond words.
No-one forced you to post any of this information, you cannot get away from what you have said and the insight that those postings gives into your
personal view of the world.)
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Kangaxx posted on 17-5-2004 at 11:39 PM Post Number: 536372 (post id: 557066)
'... my "story" have not flaws at all...' (Jack - see Ycon reference earlier)
'important: dont misundersted what LOVE is! ' (Jack - This coming from a person who doesn't believe that either himself or if not him then just
anyone else can feel compassion for anyone without being personally involved - see page 2 reference above)
'thx to god, people like me' (Jack - nice to see no delusions of grandeur here)
Kangaxx posted on 18-5-2004 at 12:36 AM Post Number: 536423 (post id: 557117)
'3- a new "vulcan age" will araise for at least 7 million years.' (Jack - can you not think of anything better than Star Trek references here?
Bad day perhaps?)
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Kangaxx posted on 18-5-2004 at 02:47 AM Post Number: 536595 (post id: 557289)
'i have becamed a kind of "clairvoyancer"!'
(Jack - OK which finger am I holding up?)
mpeake posted on 18-5-2004 at 04:18 AM Post Number: 536759 (post id: 557453)
'Fourth and final, you say that there is a huge part of your story that you haven't or can't relay to us due to the severity of the info. I really
think it would be beneficial to those of us who are open minded to know what you know, even if we won't be able to comprehend it. When things start
to happen we can use that info to go back to for answers.'
Kangaxx reply to this request:
Kangaxx posted on 18-5-2004 at 05:33 AM Post Number: 536908 (post id: 557602)
'4- ok...just think in this for a moment:
do you bother at all to aproach a cow or a bird trying to explaining them the laws of phisics!?! i think not...why then you think that they will
bother to aproach normal humans to explain things that they have sure you cant understend?!?
(Jack - The response here is totally unrelated to the question - mpeake asks for more information from Kangaxx on HIS knowledge and Kangaxx replies
by saying these 'Aliens' can't be bothered to approach 'normal' human beings, [lucky Kangaxx is so special then]. This point may well be fact
but is not a response to the question posed. The most arrogant part of the reply? The fact that Kangaxx starts this statement with ' ok...just
think in this for a moment:' then goes on to completely miss-interpret the question.)
From the same Kangaxx post -
'chieldrn are dieing all over the place, lilions of people are suffering all the place... have you any time stoped to think in this?' (Jack - No
Kangaxx. None of any of the ATS members have ever considered that, in fact none of us were even aware, thank you for bringing it to our attention.
You are so wise - your insight astounding)
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Kangaxx posted on 18-5-2004 at 07:03 AM Post Number: 537080 (post id: 557774)
'1 - i never sayed anywhere that i am "more special" then all the others!at the "aliens" eyes.'
(Jack - Referr to Kangaxx posted on 18-5-2004 at 05:33 AM Post Number: 536908 (post id: 557602) above. The Aliens can't be bothered to approach
'normal' human beings, but have approached Kangaxx.)
'3- i do not talk for all of the humans, and i never was,'
(Jack - Referr to page 2 kangaxx post page 2 posted on 17-5-2004 at 07:14 AM Post Number: 534849 (post id: 555543) above.)
'5- some one says:" we are capable of love, and capable of great feats"...sure we are... but if you say this to me, and you are talking about the
normal human history that all the people know just in the past 300 years'
(Jack - Nope, no sacrifice through love or great feat made for others in the last 300 years because mankind is not capable. The millions of Allied
soldiers and resistance fighters that lost their lives in World War 2 were doing it for what? The people who freely signed up for service were not
sacrificing their freedom and some even their lives to defeat the evil of Hitler and so Europe could be a continent free from tyranny. So why then?
Why did people sign up of their own free will?)
'10- "i am special becuase they pick me"! lol...sorry but this one is hylarius too...'
(Jack - this is dealt with above. Kangaxx is very fond of telling people to go back and read previous posts because they have missunderstood or just
not bothered. Kangaxx, YOU said the aliens would not "... bother to aproach 'normal' humans to explain things..." Yet you say YOU have been
approached, therefore YOU are saying that YOU are somehow beyond/above 'normal' humans. Otherwise you would not have been approached, surely? This
comes from your own words!)
acidhead posted on 18-5-2004 at 08:28 AM Post Number: 537299 (post id: 557993)
'... my questions got totally side stepped because of me not totally believing in you...'
(Jack - I hope this will be seen as proof of what I am putting here, others see these things too.)
'5. how come the aliens choose names from startrek?' (Jack - See above comment)
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Knagaxx posted on 18-5-2004 at 08:48 AM Post Number: 537356 (post id: 558050)
'Acidhead wrotes:
"so can you answer my questions then instead of skipping them ?"
for sure, this is not the correct way to ask for nothing, so i will remain in silence about them, sorry!'
(Jack - Oh, just LMAO. Ask me what I want, when I want and how I want or there will be no reply")
acidhead, in reply to the above post, replied
'...so read back to my first questions and then tell me if i asked you incorrectly ?
after being skipped of questions on your little story 2 times now , should i get on one knee and beg you ?
(Jack - See, it's not just me who believes you are trying to wriggle out of questions you don't feel like responding to. Just like a politician do
you only want to reply to questions you feel you can answer with a reply that supports your position Kangaxx)
Kangaxx posted on 18-5-2004 at 09:24 AM Post Number: 537460 (post id: 558154)
'just to unswer a specific question that have make me smile a lot: ""why aliens have names used in star trek?
lol...yup....its a good one, you have seen the Kimbote name in start trek?,i have seen this name too in the X-files..and i cant unswer you acurate to
that,,,but i can unswer you with a question?
why certain "sci-fi" movies and TV series use true alien class names some times?! '
(Jack - Come on now Kangaxx, I've heard this type of response before, another politicians reply, question to a question because you can't answer.
I have heard this 'conspiracy' idea before too, surely you can do better than just pick a suitable answer out of a hat full of conspiracy
theories.)
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Kangaxx posted on 18-5-2004 at 10:10 AM Post Number: 537585 (post id: 558279)
'you will became just shocked if you know the total amount of historical documents that the modern world have, that talks about what i am saying
here, and much more. '
(Jack - Knagaxx, the motto here is deny ignorance. You have been asked to provide proof for many of your 'predictions' or your 'knowledge'.
When directly asked for any such thing you post elusive replies rangeing from the fact that you don't require belief or that 'normal' humans
wouldn't understand, the excuses are many and varied. These responses though will not be accepted, again the motto here is Deny Ignorance. you
cannot just post such things as you do and then make up any answer you see fit without providing a shread of evidence. Saying that you do not have to
is a poor excuse at best.)
Knagaxx posted on 18-5-2004 at 11:50 PM Post Number: 538793 (post id: 559487)
'i never have seen that Ashatar commander, but i have seen aliens...like spiting images of him.'
(Jack - now this just doesn't make any sense, if you haven't seen him, how can you know that other aliens are the 'spitting image' of him? Do you
mean you have not seen him in person but have seen pictures of him? Or is this just another discrepency in your story?.)
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Kangaxx posted on 19-5-2004 at 06:48 AM Post Number: 539488 (post id: 560182)
'remember the "copper phisics" explanation i have post in later posts?? its a extract from that intervew, because it was the only true "writing"
sorce where i was able to try to explain a so advanced explanation.
altho i thank you a lot to post a link for that subject. because the intervew i receved by mail'
(Jack - So you looked about on the 'net and found a page that suited your '"copper phisics" explanation'. To post this information is hardly
impressive. The 'net is a wonderful place full of fantastic sites, to find one that supports a theory is hardly conclusive proof.
Yet I also wonder if it was not mentioned by wgatenson in their post on 19-5-2004 at 04:34 AM Post Number: 539196 (post id: 559890) then when, or
indeed if, you would have bothered mentioning that your 'explanation' did in fact come from another source, I doubt it very much. Plagiarism shows
very bad form you know.)
Kangaxx posted on 19-5-2004 at 07:31 AM Post Number: 539589 (post id: 560283)
'we have a so high civilization, that even the "writing" was something from the past!!all the data is stored in cristals, and we even dont talk
normaly....they use telepathy. now....one day they'r world was hit it by a catastrohpe, and the possible survivers see in a suden way living in the
forests and caves with out nothing!! BINGO!,,,that was "our" pre-historic mans! '
(Jack - Oh come on!! How convenient - mankind was so evolved that they did not bother to learn how to read/write? Also please, no-one try to
justify this with a timeline starting from the 'paperless office', please.)
acidhead posted on 19-5-2004 at 07:46 AM Post Number: 539631 (post id: 560325)
(Jack - Good post)
acidhead posted on 19-5-2004 at 07:57 AM Post Number: 539658 (post id: 560352)
(Jack - LMFAO, Excellent post)
Kangaxx posted on 19-5-2004 at 08:21 AM Post Number: 539740 (post id: 560434)
'seek the posts about the "chosen" tests, and how it works, you will find there the unswer.'
(Jack - For a person who barely speaks the language, Kangaxx certainly has a gift for the corny mystical)
acidhead posted on 19-5-2004 at 08:21 AM Post Number: 539741 (post id: 560435)
(Jack - What can I say, at last someone is looking at this in a realistic way)
Kangaxx posted on 19-5-2004 at 08:53 AM Post Number: 539819 (post id: 560513)
(Jack - Posts start including the agressively worded question "get it?" No need to get harsh with these people enquiring about your posts/beliefs
Knagaxx, just supply some shred of evidence, and preferably something a little better that some other plagiarised website. Yada, yada, yada... Deny
Ignorance)
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Kangaxx posted on 19-5-2004 at 09:57 AM Post Number: 539995 (post id: 560689)
'... you will see what you can learn from a "tibetan buddhist Lama monk"!'
(Jack - After talking for some time about your Buddhist beliefs/experiences/understandings I find it hard to believe Kangaxx, that you are not aware
that a Lama - in the sense with which you offer to it - is a monk, means monk. Likened to, for example, the phrase, "Northern European Sparrow
bird" it should become aparrent that it makes no sense at all to phrase it in such a way. Now I understand English is not your mother tongue, but
this strikes me as rather a mistake on your part than a grammatical error. One which, what with your fundemental understanding of Buddhism, you
should not have made, unless of course you are not being entirely truthful)
(In reference to the above posting)
Kangaxx says -
'althou if you want something real "exotic"/strong you can start to seek books from a man called "Lobsang rampa", some of his books are his life
story, but many others are just manuals/guides to teach you all about vibrations, and many more....you will be schocked when you will see what you can
learn from a "tibetan buddhist Lama monk"!
and then later on the same page
posted on 19-5-2004 at 10:38 AM Post Number: 540095 (post id: 560789)
'P.S- i forget to say that I NEVER had seen nothig in the internet saying that he is "true"...lol all the sites, news, clans and even tibetan
bhuddist groups claim the he si a hoaxlolol....hard,,,is it? '
(Jack - So one minute Kangaxx asks us to read and believe this "Lobsang rampa" monk in search for hidden enlightnement and the next Kangax himself
admits, 'all the sites, news, clans and even tibetan bhuddist groups claim the he si a hoax'.
It could be considered that this, almost an afterthought mentioning that the Lama might well be percieved by every website his name is mentioned on
as a complete fraud, is only added because after the 'Copper Physics' plagiarism expose he understands that ATS members will look take it upon
themselves to check out any references quoted.)
Kangaxx posted on 19-5-2004 at 10:38 AM Post Number: 540095 (post id: 560789)
'i have no proof at all that what i will say its absolutly tru...'
(Jack - This thread should have stopped there, how ironic that the admission of '.. no proof at all..' is perhaps the first truth told by Kangaxx
throught this entire charade.)
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Kangaxx posted on 20-5-2004 at 06:37 AM Post Number: 541974 (post id: 562668)
'...yes i know very well where is the right place. no i can't tell you where is that place, i only will say that is in a "southamerican"
country.'
earthmagick12 posted on 20-5-2004 at 09:17 AM Post Number: 542350 (post id: 563044)
'Well I don't know about the rest of your story but your avitar you clam is a photo of a real Chupacabras. Is in fact a fiberglass sculpture at the
Chedder Caves. All though it is in another language, the photos are enough. Here is the site.
www.yenisafak.com...'
(Jack - The response from Kangaxx?)
Kangaxx posted on 20-5-2004 at 10:07 AM Post Number: 542471 (post id: 563165)
'i wonder why you prefer to belive in the "agents" then in the truth,,is amazing! some one says that this is a true foto, and you think weird, but
much after that "real ivent" you see a "cool cave" with a "recosntrution" that picture, and you NEVER think its weird,'
(Jack - Firstly we are now, after many other Matrix references, talking of 'Agents'. A limited imagination is now faltering and borrowing concepts
from others. Secondly when confronted with the truth about another attempted fraud the blame is heaped upon the person who sought the truth behind
Kangaxx 'real' picture and he is labelled as gullible for refusing to blindly accept Kangaxx version of the truth. Labelled as a fool for not
believing in a creature that has never been scientifically proven.
Now I know some might referr to the existence of such as Pandas and the Mountain Gorilla and the fact that not so long ago the 'Western' world held
no belief in them either. To this I say that a man refusing to believe in such things at the time should by no means be classed as gullible, but
reasonable, despite the fact they were wrong. The reason for such a damning from Kangaxx is simple, it is anger aimed at those who have dicovered his
lies.)
Kangaxx
' i have prooved my theory!'
(Jack - This theory being that any proof offered by Kangaxx as to his prediction/knowledge of Aliens will be debunked. Haaaa! The argument becomes,
'Those who research anything I say and find it to be incorrect are 'agents' with the aim of discrediting me, so do not believe them.' Haa LMAO.
The fact that he has been exposed as lying now is turned to prove some idiotic theory. Proving that I am wrong makes me right? Rubbish, when you are
caught, you are caught. THIS is the reason no evidence is forthcoming, not because Kangaxx you feel you are beyond providing it, but because you
cannot. Plagairism and lies - that is all your attempts at providing any evidence of your ideas have led to.)
acidhead posted on 20-5-2004 at 10:23 AM Post Number: 542513 (post id: 563207)
'... not once has kangaxx answered any questions that can validate his story , instead when asked - the dummy got spit out and the person gets
accused of being rude or calling him a liar...'
(Jack - Please note this post all, and if proof is required read all Kangaxx posts up untill this.)
theRiverGoddess posted on 20-5-2004 at 10:33 AM Post Number: 542548 (post id: 563242)
'Acidhead....he is not going to answer you...for he cannot SEE your questions......he has you on IGGY.....and thats WHY he ignores you.....not to be
mean to you, you just are NOT there for him to address. Does THAT answer your question?'
(Jack - Ok, I'm starting to tear my hair out now! WHY do you think Kangaxx chooses not to see acidheads posts?)
acidhead posted on 20-5-2004 at 10:37 AM Post Number: 542558 (post id: 563252)
'ha ha pathetic , ignorence is bliss eh'
(Jack - AcidHead, I have a feeling we could become good friends.)
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Kangaxx posted on 20-5-2004 at 11:10 AM Post Number: 542647 (post id: 563341)
'dear friend, i am thankfull for your suport mate, but if they want to "see" i have profed to them exatly why it is useless to try to give proofs!
that was a big trap i made for that "agents"...'
(Jack - Oh now this is getting pricless. "You have proved me correct in everything I say because you have exposed me as a liar and a fraud and that
was my plan all along. You poor misguided fools." L-M-F-A-O)
Kangaxx same post
',,,i hope you have understend all the point now, and not seek no more proofs here. in fact, if you think i am a fraude, i cant understend why you
came here seeking proofs of the truth'
(Jack - Because, dear friend, the moto of this forum is DENY IGNORANCE. This may come as a little of a shock to you but one way of doing so is to
seek the truth and expose lies and frauds. That is why. Oh, and that you are a little reticent on supplying any more 'proofs' here, could this be
because every time you have tried so far you have fallen flat on your face and lost all credability due to the diligence of certain ATS members.
Cudos to them. Deny Ignorance always by seeking the truth)
theRiverGoddess posted on 20-5-2004 at 11:16 AM Post Number: 542659 (post id: 563353)
'Kangaxx.........what do you mean ....your making traps for agents??? I do NOT understand that........
I thought, it was the agents making traps for you? why would you feel the need' to set traps' for anybody? Who are you trying to trap? and.....WHY?
'
(Jack - Now we see even those who chose to accept Kangaxx story previously become confused by his actions. 'Oh what a tangled web we weave, when
first we practice to decieve.')
Kangaxx posted on 20-5-2004 at 11:23 AM Post Number: 542688 (post id: 563382)
'i have forced the conversation about the chupacabras becuase i knew it already they will react that way, and the "new cave" will be bringed to
here.'
(Jack - Lol, just lol. No further explanation is required here.)
Kangaxx, although only on page 13 out of a present 26, I shall stop here because I am confident that my case is proven, and I fear I have already
bored most to tears.
Will there be any response from Kangaxx? Or am I going to get another - 'in the case that you do not have read all the topic from the beginning'
and so do not fully understand what you are trying to communicate? Will you ask me to go back and try to interpret how it would suit you?
You, sir, are a FRAUD!