Originally posted by nunya13
This is occurring right now at my office...
My co-worker went in and got the regular seasonal flu shot last Thursday. She was complaining on Friday of feeling odd that same night. She looked like crap on Monday and yesterday (Tuesday) she called in sick and said she had a fever.
Not even an hour later another coworker called in and said he was going home after being at a clients all morning because he was feeling really bad and could barely concentrate. Since he hadn't been in the office yet, he had no idea that she also called in sick. I asked him and he said he didn't get any shot. Then I told him about our coworker getting it.
I am now feeling under the weather as of last night and am progressively feeling crappier as the day goes on. My personal conclusion? My coworker got the shot with a semi-live virus (or whatever the heck you call it), contracted the flu and has now passed it on to at least two of us at work here.
This is absolutely ludicrous. Me and another person now have the freaking flu because someone didn't want the flu, got the shot, and now has the flu. So, apparently, it doesn't matter if I get the shot or not. If someone I'm around a lot gets the shot, I'll get the flu and so will they. Now she has missed two days and the other guy has missed one and a half days and if I keep getting worse throughout the day, I will be missing at least one day.
edit to add:
On topic, one of my bosses also works at one of the local hospitals and told us yesterday that the staff there has been informed that are required to get the flu shot. He said only some will get the swine shot, since there isn't enough supply here yet. But they will get one shot or the other. He said they don't do this every year.
I haven't heard anything about any protests though. I really hope someone does.
[edit on 30-9-2009 by nunya13]
From what we've been told, the shot contains an inactive virus. The nasal spray contains a weaked (i.e. live) virus.
The issue with flu vaccinations period is they bypass how your body normally fights off an infection. Instead of your mucus membranes having first stab at it.
Your mucous membranes have their own immune system, called the IgA immune system. It is a different system from the one activated when a vaccine is injected into your body.
Your IgA immune system is your body's first line of defense. Its job is to fight off invading organisms at their entry points, reducing or even eliminating the need for activation of your body's immune system.
When a virus is injected into your body in a vaccine, and especially when combined with an immune adjuvant like squalene, your IgA immune system is bypassed and your body's immune system kicks into high gear in response to the vaccination.
The main reason adjuvants are used is to reduce the amount of vaccine required per dose as these adjuvants are designed to enhance your immune system's reponse to the vaccine (i.e. make you feel sick).
When squalene is used as an adjuvant, your immune system can't distinguish between the squalene normally found in your body (which is an essential oil) and that from the vaccine. Since your body's immune system has now been turbocharged to fight off the virus in direct response to the adjuvant's, it will also attack these same adjuvants WHEREVER THEY ARE LOCATED IN THE BODY.
And where is squalene located? This is an oil essential to your NERVOUS SYSTEM.
Now, think about your body's immune system kicked into high gear from these adjuvants and your body is now fighting molocules essential for your own nervous system health. Can you say Guillain-Barre?
Furthermore, your co-worker could have ALREADY had the virus and not known this. They could still INFECT OTHERS REGARDLESS IF THEY HAD THE VACCINE OR NOT.