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(American Police Force) APF Just who are they? some answers here

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posted on Oct, 1 2009 @ 12:59 PM
They are preparing for this...

posted on Oct, 1 2009 @ 01:06 PM
Maybe it's because I'm bored, or maybe it's because I'm sleep deprived because of this stupid flu (or so it seems, with a hacky cough and feeling of slight fever) and that's when I come up with the crazy stuff.

Anyhow something about this makes me want to ask questions about what my vague knowledge of history points me to. So how about it Arch Duke Ferdinand? What's the story? Of course the ghost isn't around to speak, (I'm not that weird) but of course what has been recorded about him might say something.

Wikipedia article on Arch Duke Ferdinand

Now the conspiracy folks will probably love this one and my funky lead in. But why would they really try to make it this obvious?

Sleep deprivation is fun, especially when you're thinking random enough to try and connect dots with the oddest bits of information. I didn't read every post, so I'm probably not the only one looking at it like that. But it just seems funny.

I guess I'll look back after this post and see who else may be on this wavelength. I may have clicked post too soon, only to see countless similar ones.

[edit on 1-10-2009 by pauljs75]

posted on Oct, 1 2009 @ 01:24 PM
Supposedly the head of APF is a 14 time felon? How do you get to be a 14 time felon and still be free? Other folks get 3 strikes and then life in prison.. Anyone know just what this guy did? His father is a high horse serb of some sort... and so sonny boy gets to break the law and be in charge of a quasi police force.. get the %*#$ outta here! How corrupt can you get... go back to serbia you piece of trash... and who is this parent company "DPS"...? IF that is the parent company... whom "they are not releasing the name of"... these people are garbage.. I still say run em out!

posted on Oct, 1 2009 @ 01:27 PM
reply to post by revdrdrsunshine

Blackwater (now called Xe) gets away with murder, why would this be any different?

just sayin

posted on Oct, 1 2009 @ 01:30 PM

"Capt. Michael" is from Montenegro. Thus, the flag.

He's just another one of the shady types often employed for this kind of thing. No different than the owners of the flight training schools (as seen in THE VENICE FLYING CIRCUS).

The financial backing appears to me to come from Saudi connections.

Mohammed Abdalla and Edward "Ehmad" Angelino are the two people who grab my attention.

Check out the following info and then look at DEFENSE PRODUCT SOLUTIONS and ALLIED DEFENSE SYSTEMS. You can look at these fellows from the links at the site below.

I think this is important to know when the media discounts Capt. Michael as merely some con man who tried to involve himself with APF or some other ploy.

Since his criminal record is obvious it's doubtful Becky Shay and Al Petersen will be able to prevent people from knowing about him. But like Blackwater/Xe I expect them to continue to thrive. They have work to do "in the near future".

*from article***

The server for APF’s website happens to host Defense Product Solutions’ website. This company registered its domain name way back on June 19, 2009. Note that both APF and DPS use the double-headed eagle for their corporate logos. (registered March 2007) appears to be a related site. This website’s administrative contact is Mohammad Abdalla. Mr. Abdalla is listed as the COO for this company in Anaheim, CA.

Here’s where it gets more strange. The admin e-mail is for a Mr. Edward Angelino, who just happens to be listed as a small business contact for Defense Logistics Services, Inc., a company that appears to be providing foreign military sales support for the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Mr. Angelino has an interesting tracking record when it comes to both lawsuits and government contracts.

[edit on 1-10-2009 by Whatthehell?]

posted on Oct, 1 2009 @ 01:31 PM
reply to post by warrenb

True.. true dat...I hear ya...
Corruption here corruption there here a crook there a crook everywhere a crook crook....
Time to make some changes... well.. it would be nice... RDDS

posted on Oct, 1 2009 @ 01:34 PM
wow, so im listening to alex's live reports from Hardin, he syas the town is crawling with mercs from germany, serbia, czech republic, british... he says thier are mercs everywhere, he got the dumb PR lady to slip up and say there is a parent company which was hilarious. he also said hes being followed teh whole time.. trying to film them in a white sedan of some kind only for them to speed off... crazy broadcast... he also says he has more info to tell once he gets out of there...

this becky shay is a joke...

[edit on 1-10-2009 by TheCoffinman]

posted on Oct, 1 2009 @ 01:44 PM
reply to post by TheCoffinman

is this live on his site or up on youtube or?

posted on Oct, 1 2009 @ 01:54 PM
reply to post by warrenb

live on his site..

posted on Oct, 1 2009 @ 01:56 PM
Who else got rich selling out to the Saudis? um....the Bush's? I get the
connection with Serbia and Gavrilo Princip. Stupid thing there was that
Archduke Ferdinand was actually for more autonomy for Serbia.

Anyhooo, this Craptin' Mikhails daddy probably runs a CIA torture shop
and that's why he has his get out of jail free card.

I can't wait to see what Alex Jones has to say about this. If the Montana
militia decides it's time to step up then we will have nation-wide martial
law within 3 days, anyone wanna take bets on that?

If you plan on buying a firearm or ammo get to it NOW. Next week you
may not be able to. On the brighter side if we have martial law you will
probably get some time off from work or school. I knew that would make
you all feel better.

They are trying to flush the Quail ladies and gentlemen,
let the hunt begin!

posted on Oct, 1 2009 @ 02:03 PM
As I see it we have two possibilities:

1. Welcome to the new Gitmo
- This prison will be used to detail prisoners from Gitmo and X-ray along with any future captives taken in Afghanistan / Pakistan, etc. The use of shady military contractors rather than the military has CIA written all over it in ten foot tall letters and as weird as it seems it might be the only way they can still do the things they do and get out from under judicial branch interference / possible supreme court challenges from continuing to hold these prisoners in military prisons. There are some serious legal challenges to be overcome, especially if they want to house domestic terrorism prisoners in the same facility with people caught in war zones by the military.

CIA associated military contractors always seem to have a CEO with a MBA from con college. This is how you get dirty work done in that universe, by hiring ex felons who have no "good name" to lose. Imagine just how far you'd be willing to go for the people handing out the money if you were one of these shady, ex military, ex felons. Being filthy rich vs. being just another ex felon probably buys a lot "gray area" in the morality department. Who else is going to violate US and International law / treaties for the CIA when it comes to torturing the prisoners?

If this is indeed all there is to it then this should be the end of it. We shouldn't see a large number of matching facilities being set up with the same or similar contractors involved.

2. FEMA camps? Don't be ridiculous . . .

Steve Quayle claims to have intel which shows 30 some odd facilities like this one are being set up in the Western US. If that's true then there's really no other explanation than it's the FEMA camp / martial law / second American revolution scenario.

We already have detainment facilities for "illegal aliens" and in an emergency situation a huge number of non violent, first time drug offenders could be cleared out of the prisons. There's no reason to go around building a few dozen prison camps with foreign mercenaries in charge other than certain "doomsday / NWO" purposes.

The news is out on this one and as far as I can tell it is the first. It's possible we could be about to have a really bad incident of some kind and this facility will be used to round up the top page of Obama's enemy list while they get busy converting other facilities / building new ones.

If there are plans already in place to make more of these Constitution killers there should be a trail of some kind out there to follow. I think that's where the investigation needs to focus. Until they start bringing in prisoners to the Hardin facility we're just not going to know for sure and really , even if they do bring in the Gitmo / X-ray crowd it doesn't rule out future domestic prisoners being housed there.

The key is to find proof of additional facilities like this which are in the
works. That would prove it's time to buckle up, IMO.

posted on Oct, 1 2009 @ 02:03 PM
reply to post by Asktheanimals

ive been listening to what alex has to say and hes alarmed as hell... hes being followed, he has residents who are scared telling him theyve seen mercs crawling all over hardin... arabs, germans, serbs, czechs, brits...

posted on Oct, 1 2009 @ 02:05 PM
reply to post by TheCoffinman

I'm listening to this too. This is unreal.

posted on Oct, 1 2009 @ 02:17 PM
Ok... I didn't see any others posts on that tangent I was on.

But some other aspects of this "police organization" sound like something out of a videogame... Lots of mercenarys and shady characters. So I draw up a comparison. I hope I'm not too much the "Cloud CukooLander" for doing this.

Of course this an article about an entity existing in a popular work of fiction (at least to RTS gamers), but Westwood Game's Command & Conquer series has an unusual parallel.

Brotherhood of Nod

Any half truths hidden in there?

Another google search lead me to this place. Interesting history. Relation? Maybe, maybe not... Maybe another false lead, I'll leave it to someone else to connect the rest of the dots. It's down the page... A Mexican connection, and in California? It's just too wierd.

Double Eagle Restaurant

I think I'll go back to the more mundane stuff, these conspiracy things wierd me out.

posted on Oct, 1 2009 @ 02:47 PM
You all need to find out about the other 30 cities right NOW....
because they may be purposely diverting your attention to Montana while other forces are taking over small towns.


posted on Oct, 1 2009 @ 03:03 PM

Originally posted by warrenb
Here is the APF (American Police Force) logo:

Lots of questions regarding the logo of this FPS company.

Why are they using a logo that incorporates the coat of arms of Serbia?

Why does it have the sun rays of the Serbian socialist party?

just a little info for you...

the double headed eagle signifies the activated ventricles of the human brain.. christined with kundalini energy.. metamorphosized into the messiah body..
the dawn signifying the new eternal existence of man in new godlike bodies..

this is the entire reason for the big change were going to be going through politically socially etc..

it's because we're evolving and you don't know it.. and they do.
it's in all their symbology... double headed eagle.. egyptian ureus... the symbol of the sikh , ark of the covenant.. all artistically represent the activation of the full potential of the human brain.. and what external ramifications this holds...

so.. that's why they have the image of the double headed eagle and dawn..
they're coming to hold down the fort as much as possible.. because people changing into people with amazing super powers en masse?

uhm.. .you're an idiot if you dont nail down hardcore security before you cause something like that to happen.... imagine the dangerous individuals that change? watch the show Heroes of 4400 for some preconditioning predictive programming on the subject...

the whole illumination "dawn" is more than just an ideology.. it's a physiological secret unlocked.. a new paradigm for mankind..

hear me now listen to me later.


posted on Oct, 1 2009 @ 03:03 PM
Alethea, which "other 30 cities" are you referring to??...I've been reading most of the posts here, I may have missed something??


posted on Oct, 1 2009 @ 03:17 PM
The Hardin story is a little older than we think

I found a report about it from Sept 10 which includes details that have been omitted since then.

The firm's spokesman, Maziar Mafi, said American Police was spending "serious money" to get the jail running and expected to fill it to capacity by March.

He said there were no inmate contracts in place, but that negotiations were ongoing with federal and state corrections agencies.

"What we'd like to do is have that information revealed once contracts are entered into and they are done deals," Mafi said. "It's very real."

Mafi said the firm has extensive law enforcement and military security contracts and runs detention centers in other countries. But he said he could not go into details, citing confidentiality issues.

He also declined to say who was in charge of the firm, saying it had "multiple layers" and had been founded more than a century ago in Washington, D.C.

Mafi is a Santa Ana trial attorney specializing in personal injury, medical malpractice and criminal law. He said he was hired a month ago as American Police Force's legal director.

I think we need to contact this lawyer Mr. Mafi and find out what he knows about their background. He seems to have been replaced as the firm's spokesperson by Becky Shay.

Telephone: (714) 543-3350

posted on Oct, 1 2009 @ 03:19 PM
I think he is just sayin' - just cuz' we think it can't happen here - doesn't mean it can't happen here!

Everyone be vigilant - look for signs of these kind of suspicious "police" forces in your home town and report them here on ATS (and maybe to as well)

We Won't get fooled again!

posted on Oct, 1 2009 @ 03:21 PM
reply to post by warrenb

The latest update on AJ is that Blackwater denies association
with AFP ???

a caller to the Alex Jones Show today said that he called Blackwater, who told him that American Police Force were illegally using their material and logos and that they were considering taking legal action against the paramilitary organization currently conducting law enforcement duties in Hardin, Montana.

As we reported earlier, APF claims that it runs the U.S. Training Center, which is publicly controlled by Blackwater, now XE

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