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Iran says it built nuclear plant in mountain, near military base, to shield it from air attack

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posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 05:23 PM
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When i read stories like this, i think why would they give out this kind of intel publicly?
Im sure the US and whoever else wants to know has gathered their own Intel and already knew its an underground facility, not wait for it to be announced in the media.
Whether it is really in a mountain or not, i think the story is out so we have an excuse to attack on foot.




posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 05:34 PM
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Originally posted by wycky
When i read stories like this, i think why would they give out this kind of intel publicly?
Im sure the US and whoever else wants to know has gathered their own Intel and already knew its an underground facility, not wait for it to be announced in the media.
Whether it is really in a mountain or not, i think the story is out so we have an excuse to attack on foot.


They would give this info at this particular time for two chief reasons:
a) they collected their own counter intelligence which indicated the Qum site is no secret anymore
b) the timing is such as to make Obama look weak (after all the recent ultimatums the sanctions aren't there, and the Iranians are effectively sticking it to Obama with the second plant which is obviously military purpose).



posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 05:40 PM
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This issue is getting absolutely ABSURD! I mean are we Americans such mindless zombies stuck in our dancing with the stars stupor we can't even see the forest for the trees anymore! "THEY" WANT WAR! How much more obvious do you want it to be? What the hell do you expect Iran to do? Hey here is nuclear technology that we have the sovereign right to acquire and we are going to display it out in the open desert so you can blow all our hard work and money to smitherines???????????????????????????? No wonder our country is going to hell in a hand basket when the average American is so brainwashed and so STUPID!

Look people the West needs to understand that Iran is going to get nuclear weapons and the greater middle east is going to get nuclear weapons one way or another. We are going to have to learn to deal with it diplomatically or we will end up having to take on the entire midd east and fight everyone from Iran to Pakistan to Syria. Israel has to deal with this crap on its own. Let's not pretend jews are the little innocent 1950's victims anymore. They have a VERY big foot print around most of the world these days. What the US NEEDS to do is quit meddling our nose in every f'ing country and government and natural resource and quit pissing off the rest of the world.

Look, this new terrorist tactic of hiding explosives and bombs up in their guts isn't the last innovation these guys are going to come up with. New and more efficient ways will only keep coming. If you don't want to get bit by a rattlesnake maybe you shouldn't be taunting it!!!!!!!!!!!! You keep giving these guys, the Iran regime all this attention they are going to eat it up. Let the Iranian people take care of these nutjobs. There is no use creating WWIII and killing thousands of innocent people just because Iran MIGHT make a nuclear weapon let alone actually USE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's already f'ing bad enough my kids and grandkids will have to clean up the mess the US government has been creating all over the world for the last 50 years. Hell I'm still old enough to be drafted and this nonsense sure isn't a cause I'd be willing to lay down my life for.


Our stupid entangling alliances Jefferson warned us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It looks like the Chinese are the only ones that got the first part right.......trade with all countries! LOL.

[edit on 29-9-2009 by Zosynspiracy]



posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 05:44 PM
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Well I guess none of this really matters, since Obama is such a wussy, liberal he wont attack them no matter what they do. Obviously he supports his fellow muslims and is against Israel.



posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 05:48 PM
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He's a lame duck no experience Senator with a community organizer background. LMAO! We are so f'd!

Obama is an empty suit and will sway whichever way the UN blows him.



posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 05:49 PM
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I don't see the problem here. Should nations be pursuing nuclear weapons? No but I don't see the nuclear armed nations taking the lead.

Let them be.



posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 05:49 PM
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posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 05:49 PM
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I'm just surprised that with the American Spies in Iran they hadnt learned of this sooner, they only stumbled upon the 2nd Plutonium Enrichment plant by accident from sending up those Drones, Iran admitting they have a Nuclear Plant building weapons is like saying "have a go at us if you dare."



posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 05:50 PM
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Originally posted by wycky
When i read stories like this, i think why would they give out this kind of intel publicly?
Im sure the US and whoever else wants to know has gathered their own Intel and already knew its an underground facility, not wait for it to be announced in the media.
Whether it is really in a mountain or not, i think the story is out so we have an excuse to attack on foot.


1. Yes, i always do find my self wondering at times why would someone give out important information :\

2. That's a problem, you're already having problems in IRAQ attacking on foot and from AIR, imagine facing 1000x worse on foot in IRAN(Actual trained soldiers, the Islamic republic want to protect there country from invaders, so you would even see civilians turning into domestic military . The terrain depending on where you are can be green or desert unfamiliar territories it's like rushing into a trap that has been set up, think about when thousands of soldiers rushed into Gallipoli, same sort of thing :\

Also, at the exact same time of invasion from ground troops they would attempt to overthrow the government of IRAN but different means, imagine how many covert ops they have working as mullahs...


oh can't forget, how many thousands of American troops are currently in Iraq waiting to be blown up by already well placed bombs and suicide bombers well trained, what you see now in IRAQ is just a taste of what IRAN can do to simply take over a nation of mentally corrupting peoples minds(ie;Teaching them when they die, Allah promises that they'll have 5 woman and all the happiness they could ever want when they die)

Must advise that IRAN is not IRAQ, an IRAQ is not IRAN... two different places but some things are identical, behind the curtains of the main stream truth.

Ofcourse I'd like to see the world bring justice on ISRAEL, i would also like to see justice handed on to IRAN, but this will all come in DUE time..., personally I'm currently anti-Israel on any matter, but i will give it well thought and put my critical thinking hat on. My mother is IRANIAN she thinks that IRAN needs to be taught a lession and stop (beeping) with the world, but i think she has misunderstood many things, just because the government may seem bad, they do infact have the right to have nuclear energy, it's a fight between two nations and other counties have been involved in the process, the small country has its amazing weapon, and the amazing weapon is not allowing the big country to progress any further, by means of deception an should we say "hide behind the truth/lies",

we all know what Iran has done, and is doing currently(fraud votes/election, Islamic abuse, treating there people inhumane, treating people who are non-Muslim like dogs. ), all these things are internal affairs, not external they can only be resolved inside the country an not out

The only fight that should be solved outside of the country is the current fight, ISRAEL | iran, or better known as "middle east peace process", it's clear to most people AFAIK, Iran only gives hamas and all these rebel fighters weapons and money to fight Israel and many other states in Iraq and other places around the world because they are scared for there own protection, imagine having a place like Hawaii threatening the whole of the united states and getting away with it because they "hold" secrets and weapons of mass terror,... same sort of thing happening in Israel/iran right now, just most of the people in the NEWS and reading the news don't understand this


ISRAEL(the holy land), well it shouldn't be this way, i think they misunderstood the holyland(earth) with Israel.

Iran,... i dunno, they have issues that need to be sorted out in there own country that is what it comes down to.



PS: Also note, I'm bashing Israel and united states they have both entered this war/struggle since many years ago, since before the fall of the shah in iran, I'm just stating it's not a fight that the united states can intervene with military style action, the only way they could enter this war/struggle is if ISRAEL takes some sort of military action(which will happen)is already happening*


[edit on 29-9-2009 by allsop]



posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 05:51 PM
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Originally posted by wycky
Im sure the US and whoever else wants to know has gathered their own Intel and already knew its an underground facility, not wait for it to be announced in the media.


True ....

The US knew where it was. This always boils down to do we let them know that we know? They just didn't want them to know that we knew. So as to be able to maintain the element of surprise. The same things happened during the Cold war. Remember the Soviets and the Americans played this game not for years but for decades.

Aerial and Sat reconnaissance is an old and well practiced art form.




posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 06:10 PM
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Originally posted by Tapped In
I don't know about all of you, but it seems to me that Iran is itching for a fight. Are they poking a stick at us


No they are not itcjing for a fight, they are rightfully and peacefully pursuing scientific research into nuclear technology...the only problem here is the opinion of the US and their foul-mouthed sabre-rattling rhetorec



posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 06:11 PM
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the IAEA knew where it was since iran disclosed it to them 6 months ago -as per the NPT.


you do know that ISREAL have threatened to kill ON SIGHT the IAEA dont you?



posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 06:19 PM
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Originally posted by Harlequin
you do know that ISREAL have threatened to kill ON SIGHT the IAEA dont you?




I'm sorry I usually don't respond to that type of rhetoric but I need to ask. How did you get any of that out of what I wrote?

Do you have a source for the quoted statement?


I'll wait for your reply.

Thanks in advance.




posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 06:33 PM
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Our Stealth Bombers could destroy the S300 missiles and the
uranium centrifuges no problem.
When Israel tells Obama we are attacking Iran in 24 hours,
Obama will say nevermind. We will do it for you.



posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 07:14 PM
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Iran will sell enriched Uranium and or actual weapons to every enemy of israel and the USA.

War is inevitable one way or another now.

Either we take a hit in the next few years and then war or we attack and then war.

This truly sucks



posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 07:27 PM
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Not to burst anyones bubble but comparing Irans little reactor in the mountaint to the complexity, depth and scale of Norad is just stupid. If the US or Israel want thats mountain facility "collapesed" gthen collapsed it shall be.



posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 07:54 PM
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Originally posted by Tapped In

I don't know about all of you, but it seems to me that Iran is itching for a fight.


No...

That would be us who are "itching" for the fight. And we have put out so much propaganda that you actually think Iran is the one itching for the fight.

I know - You don't understand.




posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 08:12 PM
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...ummm you people do realize that a strike on Iran, especially a nuclear strike, would almost certainly conflagerate into WW3 in which millions, if not billions would die hideous deaths, including many of us here on this board? Are some of you so demented from propaganda and floride that you think this would be a good thing?

MAD worked fine with the Soviets, theres no reason to assume it wont with Iran. Leave them be.

Keep your lunatic ideas inside your own little pea brains, war mongers.



posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 09:11 PM
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There's not going to be any US attack on Iran, we're already stuck in two increasingly unpopular conflicts. It would be political suicide for Obama.

Israel might choose to go it alone, but it doesn't make a great deal of sense either. They simply don't have the long-range striking assets to shut down Iran's nuclear program for anything longer than a few months, if that.

No B-2's, no Tomahawks - only fighters that would require refueling over hostile territory to reach their targets and a couple of submarines with a few Popeye Turbo cruise missiles each.

IMO Israel's threats to strike are largely talk.



posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 09:20 PM
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Iran will be a nuclear power. No doubt about it.



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