Sex abuse rife in other religions, says Vatican, page 1
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Topic started on 29-9-2009 @ 01:54 PM by karl 12
The Vatican has lashed out at criticism over its handling of its paedophilia crisis by saying the Catholic church was "busy cleaning its own house" and that the problems with clerical sex abuse in other churches were as big, if not bigger.

In a defiant and provocative statement, issued following a meeting of the UN human rights council in Geneva, the Holy See said the majority of Catholic clergy who committed such acts were not paedophiles but homosexuals attracted to sex with adolescent males.

The statement, read out by Archbishop Silvano Tomasi, the Vatican's permanent observer to the UN, defended its record by claiming that "available research" showed that only 1.5%-5% of Catholic clergy were involved in child sex abuse.

He also quoted statistics from the Christian Scientist Monitor newspaper to show that most US churches being hit by child sex abuse allegations were Protestant and that sexual abuse within Jewish communities was common..



...The statement concluded: "As the Catholic church has been busy cleaning its own house, it would be good if other institutions and authorities, where the major part of abuses are reported, could do the same and inform the media about it."

The Holy See launched its counter–attack after an international representative of the International Humanist and Ethical Union, Keith Porteous Wood, accused it of covering up child abuse and being in breach of several articles under the Convention on the Rights of the Child.

Representatives from other religions were dismayed by the Holy See's attempts to distance itself from controversy by pointing the finger at other faiths.

www.guardian.co.uk...


Apparently according to the pope they're all at it.


reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 02:09 PM by MR BOB
reply to post by schrodingers dog


agreed so thats like how many, 150 odd thousand? more? i dont know how Big exactly is the cathlic church...


reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 02:28 PM by SLAYER69
reply to post by karl 12


IMO The title should read....


Sex abuse rife in all religions, admits Vatican





reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 03:20 PM by MR BOB
reply to post by FlyersFan


yes but how many of them are clergymen, and how much is one point 5 percent


reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 04:43 PM by babloyi
Originally posted by schrodingers dog
Originally posted by karl 12

The statement, read out by Archbishop Silvano Tomasi, the Vatican's permanent observer to the UN, defended its record by claiming that "available research" showed that ONLY 1.5%-5% of Catholic clergy were involved in child sex abuse. (same source/emph. mine)


Never mind the lame deflective excuses ... THAT has to be one of the most disturbing statements I have EVER heard!

While it amazes me that I am doing this, I have to agree with FlyersFan
While it is certainly despicable that there is ANY child sex abuse occurring, you have to understand that the statement was used as a comparison to other institutions.

For example, according to this, there is child sexual abuse of up to 62% for females and 16% for males in the United States. And if we look at the public schools (from the same report): "nearly 9.6% of students are targets of educator sexual misconduct sometime during their school career." In studies of student sex abuse by male and female educators, male students were reported as targets in ranges from 23% to 44%.[100] In U.S. school settings same-sex (female and male) sexual misconduct against students by educators "ranges from 18-28% or reported cases, depending on the study".

Now compare that to the 1.5-5% of the clergy being involved.


Some more info derived from here:
There were apparently around 1.4 million personnel that made up the official catholic church in 2000 (this being the whole world, not just the USA). If you remove the people that wouldn't have come un contact with members of the congregation, you'd wouldn't even get 1 million. Now 1.5-5% of that may be an awful lot, but I don't see how it is disproportionate to any other institution that comes into regular contact with children.

PS: This is just from 5 minutes of research. Feel free to blow my findings apart. Also, I have not been endorsed by the catholic church
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