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Montana Town Occupied By Private Paramilitary Security Force

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posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 07:09 PM
I hate to say this but this city is NOT going to get a big boost of income from this. If they do, it will be a carrot.

They will be the home of a growing bully. The brown Shirts. And this group will have a strangle hold on the region.

This is not good. I am not up for this at all.

BTW- God forbid that some town have a jail but no prisoners for it. What a very bad problem to have. Not.


posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 07:10 PM
reply to post by ElectricUniverse

Yes, I agree there too, exactly what I was thinking about how the server was overloaded, and that is why their website was down.

Just hope it does not end up being average american "terrorists" in there you know the kind that are a "terrorist" because they have a Ron Paul bumper sticker...

[edit on 30-9-2009 by burntheships]

posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 07:11 PM
reply to post by Blaine91555

That's not a Serbian crest you attached, the upper one is. The bottom one is for the state union of Serbia and Montenegro. The company being discussed is using coat of arms of Serbia.

where better to hide company info than in a country only 3 years old and likely still a good place to hide things without fear of the government which must still be in turmoil.

The country is not 3 years old, where did you get that?
And, government which "must be in turmoil" is in much less turmoil than your own
. It's about to join european union so that could be some kind of indicator of supposed economic stability.

Thanks for the explanation Whatthehell?, I actually thought blackwater are the biggest players. Bunch of hill billies shootin' would sound less scary than an organized militia waving a foreign country coat of arms I guess.

posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 07:18 PM
reply to post by detachedindividual

Unfortunately, even though these things are true, for the most part the US is still as it was. We have seen times like this in the past and survived. Nothing new here.

Every few decades the wrong people worm their way into power and then we wake up and put a stop to it. I believe that will happen once again this time. We are fiercely independent and the government can not control our minds. People like us who have had our incredible freedoms don't give up easy.

Don't feel sorry for us. Just sit back and watch as this mess is cleaned up yet again. We are awake. When ordinary working people start having mass demonstrations it means the heart and soul of the US is awake and ready to fix what is broken. Our demise has been predicted many times. We are still the same people. You can't give a society what we have had and then take it easily.

As far as that crap at the G20 you should do your homework. That involved a tiny group of Anarchists who get arrested on purpose so they can make YouTube tapes for propaganda purposes. The real, peaceful, legal demonstrators were not bothered or interfered with. Only the rock throwing loud mouthed adolescents who preach Anarchy and don't know what it means were bothered after they started destroying property and throwing rocks. The tapes you saw are lies to make you think just what you thought.

posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 07:21 PM
reply to post by SassyCat

Corrected in post below.

[edit on 9/29/2009 by Blaine91555]

posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 07:24 PM
Tyrants should be a little more grateful for the discovery and refinement of iron and other metals that have been forged into the mechanization of: a prison planet.

[edit on 29-9-2009 by thaknobodi]

posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 07:26 PM
reply to post by SassyCat

The New York Times says you are wrong. Sorry.

General Information on Serbia

Official Name: Republic of Serbia
Capital: Belgrade(Current local time)
Government Type: Republic
Chief of State: Boris TADIC, President; Vojislav KOSTUNICA, Prime Minister; Kosovo - Fatmir SEJDIU, President
Population: 10,150,265
Area: 88,412 sq. km.; slightly smaller than Maine.
Languages: Serbian, Hungarian, Bosnian, Albanian
Literacy: Total population: 96.4; Male: 98.9%; Female: 94.1%
GDP Per Capita: $4,400
Year of Independence: 5 June 2006 (from Serbia and Montenegro)
Web site:

Actually the country of Serbia says you are wrong. They split from Montenegro (see above).

I don't know about the crest it was labeled like I said.

[edit on 9/29/2009 by Blaine91555]

posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 07:28 PM

Originally posted by warrenb
what I find suspicious is that the addresses of the companies turn up no real offices. Is this company a CIA/FBI/DHS/Mosad or other intelligence agency company pretending to be a legitimate business but having dark secret goals to fulfill?

This needs to be investigated more.

It is interesting to note the accent of the one on the phone in the one video. I listened to it more than once and it does seem as if to be middle eastern. At first I thought from India. But I also wonder if this may also have something to do with Blackwater Security.

I wonder if this is related to the UN. We have people being held in foreign prisons, I guess we could expect to be holding some from there than also.

[edit on 29-9-2009 by aleon1018]

posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 07:31 PM
reply to post by aleon1018

You need to read the whole thread. This story has evolved.

posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 07:34 PM

Originally posted by marg6043
Isn't 't this a dangerous precedent as more cities around the nation that are strapped for money will be turning into private security forces to "take care of the cities role as police".

I work for a company that is considering making that very move.

I know that when I was in Chicago a year ago it was on the local news that the City was considering turning over various areas to Private Security. This may occur in cash strapped areas or where the local police is over run.

Also in Vancouver there will Trojan Securityis said to be patrolling the streets in 2012.

There is a certain danger to Liberty in the use of Private Security Forces (Company) which is not much of a step from a Private Military Company like Xe or Tripple Canopy or any of the others.

posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 07:36 PM

Originally posted by detachedindividual
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Americans often criticise the UK for things like CCTV coverage and supposedly being the "home" of the NWO and such, but if this were happening anywhere in the UK, we'd know it, we'd be in the streets protesting, we'd be demanding answers from our government, and if it came to it we'd be dragging their asses out of their offices to face the crowds.

I see, so tell us, what did come about from the largest protest in the history of the UK, where your citizens protested their rights being taken by the government, such as the lie that crime would go down if your handguns would be banned? Which in fact has only increased crimes with handguns, now that criminals have handguns...

What about the farmer who was put in prison in the UK because he shot one of two robbers who broke into his house, and the other robber is out in the streets, and is suing the farmer for what he has.... That's just one case we know about...

Is the UK really in a better position than the U.S.?... I doubt it, and your people are allowing an innocent citizen to remain in prison.

BTW, what is happening in the U.S. is a Socialist dictatorship, just like in the UK....

In the U.S., in the states where Socialism hasn't taken a stronghold as strong as in other Liberal/Socialist U.S. cities, if robbers break into your home, and you shoot and kill one of them, you won't go to prison. It is called "self defense"...

That is at least for now, unless Liberals/Socialist win and change more laws in the U.S....

[edit on 29-9-2009 by ElectricUniverse]

posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 07:44 PM
Something you are all missing here...

Hardin is the one-time official (and still unofficial) 'gateway' to the Crow Indian Reservation. At least 75% of the population are members of the Crow tribe, and one simply has to step across the city limits to enter the Crow reservation. The local government is a tool of the tribe and will do what it is told.

While Hardin is a small town it is only a 30 min drive from the largest city in the state- complete with international airport (Air Force National Guard attached) Army National Guard facilities, and is a regional cornerstone with all the major interstate highways and railroads running through.

We all know that the native american reservations are 'autonomous' and are not considered part of the state they are located in, and will only reluctantly bow to the Federal gov.

Count on the 10,000 acres to be located well on the tribal lands, purchased from the tribe. This will open all kinds of interesting legal questions.

Crow Tribe

Crow Reservation Map

posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 08:07 PM
WTH??!! Captain Mikhail with NO LAST NAME and a company with NO
RECORD of a legitimate office or actual police work. it sounds to me
like good ol' boy Al Peterson got a hefty payoff from someone to jack
this onto the people of Hardin. Why does this guy have a thick Russian
accent? Are there any strategic sites around that area? valuable resources?
This is crazy. what's with the double eagle logo? Is this the future of
Amerikkka? I was reading Orwell and fell asleep and then I woke up
to see this, ok, I'm going back to sleep.
private police forces would
be the last straw for me. just sayin........

I just googled double eagle - it was the herald for the Holy Roman empire.

[edit on 29-9-2009 by Asktheanimals]

posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 08:07 PM
ATS member posted a new thread here
Quarantine Of Montana

the video he posted here

civilian security , or privately runned whats the difference?

[edit on 29-9-2009 by InterconnecteD]

posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 08:12 PM

Originally posted by revdrdrsunshine
They do have nice SUV's... anyone in the area want to see if they talk with an accent?

Did you listen to the video that has quotes from "Captain Michael" (wouldn't give his last name) from APF.

Dude's accent is as thick as my local convenience store clerk (whose from Pakistan).

This is bad people. Foreign nationals posing as police/ security. The government has no idea who they are, there website gives as much phoney info as a Nigerian spam email, and The twin rivers Official sounds like he has been....

Paid off.

posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 08:14 PM

According to the website above, all corporations are subject to certain rules of commerce.

If one wanted to, one could theoretically run up a monetary charge against these guys, and seek compensation for a variety of damages.

For instance, if I lived there in that town, I would assume a cause of injury and make a claim. A simple letter to the Attorney of the corporation would suffice. The letter would claim damages for violations of the state constitution, would allege offenses against the people, and would seek monetary damages. If this letter were ignored, a lien would follow, and a claim for BILLIONS in Damages could be made. At this point, a person could bring the corporation into "involuntary bankruptcy", and take it over. A creditors sale could follow with the listing on E-Bay and sold to the highest bidder with all evidence of proper liens and claims filed, listed online on a website like -

That is how we can take down each evil corporation one at a time. This was where Leroy Shweitzer was going eventually, since he was learning from Roger Elvick. Remember the Montana Freeman?


posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 08:20 PM
reply to post by InterconnecteD

Even though this is disturbing, this is no "Martial Law Takeover". That is just paranoid banter and fear mongering. I prefer honesty to wild eyed propaganda.

posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 08:25 PM
I sent a "WTF, eh?" type e-mail to Montana Militia, waiting for response.

This reeks like fish fry leftovers. Reeks of a spook front that was badly camoflauged and got the wrong kind of attention. The press and statements from the company reps even are all over the place.

Who wants to put odds that this company pulls a "Blackwater is now Xe" restructuring within a couple weeks?

posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 08:27 PM

Originally posted by InterconnecteD
civilian security , or privately runned whats the difference?

One is manned by hardened foreign mercenaries, who are very accustomed to murdering enemies in battle.

[edit on 29-9-2009 by Paroxysm]

posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 08:32 PM
reply to post by nwodeath

I had the personal misfortune of having some interaction with the "Freemen". A more dishonest and corrupt organization has never existed and they shared many members with the Aryan Nation.

I was naive about them at the time but quickly found out they were just a bunch of White Supremacists and criminals. They even wrote forged deeds, printed fake money and did all manner of illegal stuff. I met and interacted with some of their leaders and they were even into poaching to sell trophy's for peoples walls.

What I'm telling you here is factual. This is first hand info. Take it for what its worth. People like them IS the reason I keep a loaded weapon nearby.

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