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reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 03:13 PM by Teebs
reply to post by Geladinhu



It's only interesting if you're interested in CGI. If you are interested in finding authentic UFO footage, look elsewhere.

I want the real deal just as much as anyone, but this ain't it.

Please don't make this into something it's not.



reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 03:18 PM by Ha`la`tha
Originally posted by game over man
What did you do to analyze the video?


What are you talking about, he is referring to the Audio track, not the video.

You guys act like fisherman don't get their cameras wet.


Huh? How does this affect anything here?

Also there most not be any wind present.




Hmm?

Also uploading videos to youtube doesn't change the quality of the video.


Are you joking??? Youtube absolutely destroys the visual quality of whats uploaded. The audio may suffer less and you wouldn't know, but the video quality is shocking even for HD stuff.

But the AUDIO is clearly 2 separate tracks combined and left at stereo. How would a video camera pick up stereo for one part of an event yet only record another part in mono?

And how many fisherman carry around video cameras with stereo recording capabilities? I don't know that answer, so Im genuinely asking, I know you can get stereo capable recording cams, but I'd expect they'd be more for amateur film makers, and not the dude at work recording a day on the ocean with the fishes...

Not convinced.

My only argument if it was real, then why not major news?

However the debunking is not very good, imo.

My questions: Where was this shot? What time of day? What was the weather like? ect. ect.


People claiming it's cgi are just as accurate as those claiming it's real. There is no evidence for either.

However the audio track doesn't lie

Also the sound doesn't sound off to me considering it is on youtube and they are fisherman, and they are in a boat on the water.


You didn't read the post you replied to.


reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 03:20 PM by Geladinhu
reply to post by Teebs



I have no idea what it is.
For me everything is possible since I'm aware that I know very little.

I find it interesting because it caught my attention.
Thats about it. Not making it into anything.

Even if its fake, its still interesting.
What would be the motivation of whoever did this?
Are people being hired by some sort of organization to spread things like this in order to make the issue more confusing and less believable?

I don't know. But I'm looking at many different perspectives for constructive answers.


reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 03:59 PM by empireoflizards
reply to post by Tapped In



The jet thrusts do sound stereo. If this was a stereo cam, it would seem with all the jerking around, the L-R channels would fluctuate with the dialogue, etc. Someone should do a sound analysis of each channel to see if this is a stereo mic or if the jets were dubbed in. Interesting, nonetheless!



reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 04:10 PM by smurfy
reply to post by The Savage Khan

Hi Khan,
I didn't say at all that the jet sound was not stereo. I am in the music biz since the 60's and have done a lot of recording work. What I did say was that the camera mike was/is not that thin and tinny, there are a lot worse..not much wind noise either? There is no info at all about the video except a couple of lines of interpretation of what the crew are saying at the Youtube link. There is a lot of detail as I said before in the video that is not seeable when the video is running like this clip,

aftershock-the-band.com... It shows the two jets on the return pass, (circled) and the object in front of the leading jet, (arrowed) maybe a missile and the end of the watersplash. Why bother with that detail,(if cgi) when it is not seeable in the moving video? most of the cgi videos tell a story, this one does not. So i'm still open on it.



[edit on 29-9-2009 by smurfy]


reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 04:15 PM by azzllin
Just a quick question or two if that's OK?

Oh first I loved the Video, it actually got my adrenalin running, if it is a viral for a coming movie, I cant wait, as for being real or CGI ? I don't know, don't really care to be honest because the truth will out in the end, always does, it's called patience.

Anyhow
All the "experts" making comments on the sound, do any of you have any idea as to what type of Camera? is a camcorder? or one of those new fishing shows that are popping up on TV now about the lives of fishermen?

The "experts "on aircraft chasing UFO's , can I please talk to you for my research please? I want to know how they run something like that, and especially those who know what a USO looks like when they tilt like the one in the Video before diving into the water, I really need your evidence.

Thank you for your time, if this even gets read I will be so amazed, seeing how it seems a lot are jumping from post number 3 to the last page and post to give their 2 cents.

The "experts " on Human behaviour in a very exciting and mind numbing event, that throws itself in your face when one second your fishing and talking about every day stuff, and then trying to figure out WTF is happening because all of a sudden all around you is total chaos, but your supposed to act like ??? what ???

And finally for those "experts "who claim jets travel in pairs, but there where four, but I saw five of them, and the helicopter was bright browny bronze and are not used that far from land, how far from land was the boat again? I missed the part that said it was out in the open ocean miles from anywhere, for all any one knows they could have been 100 ft from shore fishing a shoal.

Now for all any of us here knows, just say for one second all what we see is real, the way the World is right now, your countries radar detects several air craft heading towards your coastline, and wont respond to radio calls, what do you do? nobody knows for certain how many jets where involved, so the timing thing is purely speculative, the helicopter, who knows who owns the helicopter? often there is talk about unidentified helicopters here, but this one because it cant be identified is a problem now?

Oh and why is it all of a sudden in this thread, are all the "experts" new members who I cant ever recall seeing around before? see we had all these " experts" why havn't we ever used them before?




reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 04:26 PM by spikey
reply to post by The Songwriter



That's what i first thought, that the UFO is taking off...it's not though.

The UFO does indeed dive into the water, but it releases a second smaller silvery/grey UFO from underneath, a split second before diving. This small (escape craft?) craft, takes off right at terrific speed.

That's what it looks like to me, at first glance anyway.

I'm going to open it up in VLC and zoom and look frame by frame.

It's a toughy when trying to tell real from fake, but the copter looks very real to me, right down to the disturbance on the surface from it's rotors. So i'd say the copter is really there. Jet's are harder to tell at the mo.




[edit on 29/9/2009 by spikey]



reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 04:32 PM by spikey
reply to post by Barkster



As far as i know dummy bombs don't hover in mid air, release a drone or escape craft that shoots off at unreal speeds, then plunge into the sea at a very high speed.


reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 04:34 PM by and14263
reply to post by azzllin


I can only answer the question regarding audio. From what I read there is the mono recording (single channel) of the voices and a stereo (two channels L and R) of the fighter engines.
I'm no Kubrick but I be thoroughly impressed if someone presented me with a camera which could record one bit in mono and the other in stereo... without any over lap.
The audio sounds layered not a single recording.

I should add I haven't tested this just repeating what others have posted, sorry if it sounds like I've put the work in.


[edit on 29-9-2009 by and14263]


reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 04:35 PM by smurfy
reply to post by azzllin

I agree with you, as I said in my last post there is practically no info on the video,(maybe I should have said, no background info) and that's why i'm still open minded about it. Even if one initially has a gut feeling that it is phoney, or vice versa and say so in a post, then I think one is obliged to come back with something more tangible and say so, even if it turns out to be wrong. Some posters just say fake and then bugger off...why?
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