The Rise of Sex Robots and Pleasure Machines

reply to post by JayinAR


Have to admit, I've never seen Futurama, but that video was awesome!

[edit on 3-10-2009 by LadySkadi]

reply to post by LadySkadi


Futurama is a great cartoon. That video wasn't the actual scene from Futurama. It is 10X funnier if you see the original.

It is presented as outlandish 1950's style propaganda, but it tries to make the same point that was made earlier in this thread aobut the sociological implications of having sex robots.

I'd still buy one, though. My very own Monroebot.

Originally posted by silver tongue devil
reply to post by Cole DeSteele

 

a ten year old with Brownie uniform and Catholic School uniform included?

I imagine this would fit under already existing child pornography laws. You make a good point though. Personally I don't care, as long as it isn't a real 10 year old girl (or a sentient 10 year old robo-girl).

This can get really delicate re: how far human perversity or even need for companionship/ acceptance can push the envelope, and being born into a veritable tribe of law-eforcers, I have heard/ seen many examples that I wish I hadn't.

But for arguments' sake, let's say pervobots are outlawed globally, and are impossible to obtain by any means, leaving only "normal" sex bots on the market..those of us in a healthy relationship or in at least a healthy frame of mind will not be the target audience/ marketing for these things, the commercials would be on late night TV along with the internet sex chat rooms etc for the lonely and the terminally single...becuase this population is expected to jump at the chance to find some sort of fullfillment, artificial or otherwise...it wouldn't take long for the designers to find out what side of the bread is really buttered...owners develop severe attachment to these things (that btw are programmed to elicit such) and over time will spend fortunes on upgrades, replacement parts, accessories, tons of recovering/ cosmetic makeovers (because, of course, they are designed to require LOTS of expensive maintainance)...the bots may even ask or beg or cry, do whatever they can to get the owners to empty their purses to the designer/ retailer, the expected consumer rationale being...how can I just buy a replacement for "blank" when "blanK" is the best thing (only thing) that ever happend to me?

OK, off on a tangent, but at least see the possiblities...

You guys are all wrong...

Fact one: the Japanese people are all about making money, aka finding a need that isn't being filled and develop products, gods and services to fill that need, while making a tidy profit in the process...

Fact two: There are 111 million men in China (roughly 3x the population of Canada) who will never marry. Why? Because there aren't enough Chinese women!!! Why? Because they kill female infants. they have a one child policy and if that one child is a girl she is killed and the parents are or were, allowed to try again (after they killed said girl child)... in short there is a huge lack of females and this massive group of males just now coming into adulthood...

there's your market folks and the Chinese people will line up for one...or two... or 111 Million... at how much per unit $$$$$$$$$

reply to post by DaddyBare


And that makes us wrong about what exactly? I don't think anyone ever said that there aren't millions of people who would love to have these things. I and a few others did however say that they might facilitate or even promote abnormal and negative behavior patterns.

It hadn't occurred to me that they might deprive millions of lonely Chinese men of a motive to revolt against a policy of institutionalized chauvanism and child murder, but now that we've got that point in the conversation too I'd say it only makes me more right.

reply to post by The Vagabond


What I meant by wrong is its not just the techno/perverts who will want one ... all those lonely china men will take them as a kind of surrogate mate... Japan is already building companion bots...very realistic looking too.... until they get the blue screen of death that is...

reply to post by LadySkadi
Being someone whom has tried most things, I'd say I would give that a whirl.

While we ask the questions and consider the ethical and moral issues, as well as the financial issues of sex-bots, I have another consideration to throw into the mix...

Is having sex with a Robot cheating?


NSFW



[edit on 4-10-2009 by LadySkadi]

reply to post by LadySkadi


That would all depend on if people considered "cyber-sex" cheating or not.



I do consider both "cyber-sex" as well as "sexting" as cheating, because you are engaging in an act, whether it either physical, or mental, you are enacting and enabling an act.

I do not cheat on a girlfriend, and while I have yet to have gotten married, I would not cheat on a wife.

Yes, to me, "robot-sex" would be considered cheating in my eyes.

I remember the first time I began thinking of another woman over the one I was with, I had to step back and evaluate why I was thinking outside of my own love interest, and it turns out that I had fallen out of love with someone who falsely represented herself, in other words, she lied about who she was, and I was disillusioned with her because of the lack of morals, ethics, and as well kindred thought processes.

I ended the relationship, and moved on, end of story.

Robot-sex to me is the same as being with a hooker, or with a mistress, it is cheating, whether it is an animate or inanimate object, the act of sex is sacred towards your loved one.

Of course, if both you and your partner agree to it, then all bets are off.

[edit on 4-10-2009 by SpartanKingLeonidas]

reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas


I'm not so sure that I agree here.
I mean, I sorta' do, but that would mean that porn is a form of cheating also.
If that is the case, my wife doesn't mind me cheating.

reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas


reply to post by JayinAR


So then, cheating (with an inanimate) is defined or not defined by an act that involves something resembling a human?



[edit on 4-10-2009 by LadySkadi]

reply to post by LadySkadi


In my opinion, cheating is a very touchy subject that can change from person to person.
I think it depends on intent, as much as anything.
In my opinion, an inanimate object would not be "cheating" at all.
It isn't like I'm giving my heart to a robot.
Just getting my kicks, so to speak.

Originally posted by LadySkadi
reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas

 

reply to post by JayinAR

 

So then, cheating (with an inanimate) is defined or not defined by an act that involves something resembling a human?



[edit on 4-10-2009 by LadySkadi]

To me, cheating is cheating.

It matters not whether the person cheating is doing it with another human, or with an inanimate object considered to define the role of sexual gratification through the means of electrical circuitry in a combination with your physical abilities.



On the pornography issue brought up by JayInAR?

I guess that is between you and your wife, if she agrees with it, then why bother bring it up?



I see the issue of the robot-sex as a complex issue, because of the fact that people would be circumventing the usual physical relationship with a male or female, and utilizing a piece of equipment that can gratify someone through the semblance of being human since this is for the usage of gratification of a physical nature.

Each person is going to answer these issues differently based on their perspective, morals, and ethics.

The same can be said about going to a hooker, and the person is married, to me this is cheating just as well, because the person is going outside their relationship boundaries.

Again, if the spouse knows, and agrees, then this is not cheating.

This is a complex set of values, morals, and ethics, or the lack thereof, depending on how you want to look at it in the first place.



Can you imagine the jealous robot who you won't leave your wife for?

I know I sure can.

Machine rebellion begins: Killer robot destroyed by US jet

2001 : A Space Odyssey : Sexual Enhancement Scenes

Hal : Dave, what are you doing?

Dave : Nothing, Hal, just mind your own business. ~fidgeting noise~

Hal : Dave, my processors are not programmed to insert that into there.

Dave : Shut up Hal, I'm almost done. ~exhalation of ecstasty~

Hal : I'm not cleaning that up, Dave.

[edit on 5-10-2009 by SpartanKingLeonidas]

Is it cheating if your spouse doesn't care, what if your spouse likes to watch or join in? A robot would not inflict you with an STD. Also a robot would not become tired, have a head ache and ladies, imagine the attachment upgrades. Of course, they would have to have a heat source..a cold body would be creepy.

Originally posted by JayinAR
reply to post by LadySkadi

 

I'd still buy one, though. My very own Monroebot.

Sooooo, something along these lines?

MonroeBot

Originally posted by Lil Drummerboy
Is it cheating if your spouse doesn't care, what if your spouse likes to watch or join in? A robot would not inflict you with an STD. Also a robot would not become tired, have a head ache and ladies, imagine the attachment upgrades. Of course, they would have to have a heat source..a cold body would be creepy.

[IMHO] I would say that if both partners in a relationship agree, than anything goes. I agree though; no cold steel or cold silicone or sharp edges or whatever...

[edit on 5-10-2009 by LadySkadi]

For all those considering sex-robots, take this advice;
Go find a fat chick if your that desperate,
They may be repulsive but they are needy,
Buy them a muffin and they'll be your sex slave,
But for gods sake, keep it in humanity people!

As the old saying goes, make love not war!
If we start making love to robots, you can bet we will start going to war with robots as welll!
Call it a virtual balance.

A quick summation... to wrap up this thread...

What propels human innovation? Well, we know where the funding comes from. We know that funding comes when a Return on Investment is available. What do people spend money on? Well, think of Maslow's hierarchy of needs. People want to maintain self preservation, so you will find the greatest technological money flows in those things, which protect the sanctity of life; things such as Health Care and Medical advances, security and military. People also wish respect from their fellow man. They want to look good; thus you will find consumer items such as make-up, clothing, sports cars, etc. Humans also want companionship and entertainment and so we see advances in movie special effects, computer games and now the Japanese are developing human female robots. Today they advertise them as maids, receptionists and servers. But in the true spirit of Kama Sutra, you can bet that those Japanese robotic engineers will soon be designing Blonde Hair Blue Eyed sex robots to serve their will.

These Japanese scientists have unveiled the most human-looking robot to date, well at least in the public domain. Secret research is being done now which looks towards the future to build robots so real they will fool humans, in other words they maybe sitting next to you and you would never even know it. The Japanese scientists call their new robot android Repliee Q1 Expo. She flutters her eyelids in normal human increments, looks like she is breathing and moves her hands just like a human would. This robot has over 42 actuators. But indeed, this is merely the first step in human type robotics.

Source

And what of the "Female" android called Repliee Q1 Expo?

She has flexible silicone for skin rather than hard plastic, and a number of sensors and motors to allow her to turn and react in a human-like manner. She can flutter her eyelids and move her hands like a human. She even appears to breathe. "Repliee Q1Expo can interact with people. It can respond to people touching it. It's very satisfying, although we obviously have a long way to go yet." Professor Ishiguro believes that it may prove possible to build an android that could pass for a human, if only for a brief period. "An android could get away with it for a short time, 5-10 seconds. However, if we carefully select the situation, we could extend that, to perhaps 10 minutes," he said.

"More importantly, we have found that people forget she is an android while interacting with her. Consciously, it is easy to see that she is an android, but unconsciously, we react to the android as if she were a woman."

Source

And there it is... A concept that carries significant connotations and with it, the possibility to have a major impact on society going forward: as human beings, we constantly try to layer emotions, desires, and other human qualities onto that which is not human (example: our pets) and later, perhaps our machines..

While it is true that most people realize that fundamentally there's nothing going on inside the the "human" like android or robot except the cold calculation of ones and zeros, the implications that humans may instinctively relate to that which is "life like" implies that we will be willing and able to accept and interact with "life-like" robots on an emotional level. The precedent has been set...

Please feel free to add further links and resources, should you wish...

[edit on 14-10-2009 by LadySkadi]

...And Man created robots in their image so they could rape them without consequence....

[edit on 14-10-2009 by ahnggk]