reply to post by ninecrimes
Really, you don't have to end every post with an insult.
Like I said, come back when you don't just want to argue. Thanks.
The Republicans Have Their Long-Knives Out: "Ever since the election, and for the foreseeable future, the Republicans only have one thing on their mind, screw Obama." He said nothing else matters to them, not voters, and certainly not getting anything done. While the daily dance of special interest continues, he said that everyone is continually distracted by the inside war between Republicans and Democrats... and the smart lobbyists are the ones approaching Republicans with strategies and plans to undermine the Democrats and especially Obama. His concern was (and this was in late May, before the worst of it began), that the "get Obama" climate was in danger of getting out of control and irreparably damaging the entire country. www.abovetopsecret.com...
Originally posted by ninecrimes
I don't really understand where we're heading, anymore...
Now that Obama is in charge the change has been the attitudes of people.
I judged him and Congress by their ACTIONS and BILLS not by the media pap.
Enter Roscoe Filburn, an Ohio dairy and poultry farmer, who raised a small quantity of winter wheat — some to sell, some to feed his livestock, and some to consume. In 1940, under authority of the Agricultural Adjustment Act, the central government told Mr. Filburn that for the next year he would be limited to planting 11 acres of wheat and harvesting 20 bushels per acre. He harvested 12 acres over his allotment for consumption on his own property. When the government fined him, Mr. Filburn refused to pay.
Wickard v. Filburn got to the Supreme Court, and in 1942, the justices unanimously ruled against the farmer. The government claimed that if Mr. Filburn grew wheat for his own use, he would not be buying it — and that affected interstate commerce. It also argued that if the price of wheat rose, which is what the government wanted, Mr. Filburn might be tempted to sell his surplus wheat in the interstate market, thwarting the government's objective. The Supreme Court bought it
The Court's opinion must be quoted to be believed:
[The wheat] supplies a need of the man who grew it which would otherwise be reflected by purchases in the open market. Home-grown wheat in this sense competes with wheat in commerce.
As Epstein commented, "Could anyone say with a straight face that the consumption of home-grown wheat is 'commerce among the several states?'" For good measure, the Court justified the obvious sacrifice of Mr. Filburn's freedom and interests to the unnamed farmers being protected:
It is of the essence of regulation that it lays a restraining hand on the self-interest of the regulated and that advantages from the regulation commonly fall to others.
After Wickard , everything is mere detail. The entire edifice of civil rights legislation stands on the commerce power. Under this maximum commerce power, the government has been free to regulate nearly everything, including a restaurant owner's bigotry. The Court has held that if Congress sees a connection to interstate commerce, it is not its role to second guess.

Originally posted by whatukno
reply to post by ninecrimes
Free speech is great. Lies aren't
I could say that you like sodomizing infants while selling crack to illegal aliens. That's free speech. It's not true, but I could say it right?
I have no basis to say anything like that but because of free speech I guess it's all good that I say it right?
How about a few clear examples?
Ted Nugent is praying for Obama to fail.
Rush said
"We're not praying for Obama to fail, we are working and fighting as hard as we can to ensure it happens.""We're not praying for Obama to fail, we are working and fighting as hard as we can to ensure it happens."
And the gang of six.
Mike Enzi does it for the lulz.

This I agree with.
People are being used in this country.