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Topic started on 28-9-2009 @ 02:49 PM by mr-lizard
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With all this talk of WWIII and Israel sharpening its weapons and threatening Iran, with all the lies in the media and all the spin about Iran
developing nukes and they hypocrisy from the bigger nations - I have a bad feeling that something terrible may happen soon.
If Israel or America attack Iran, i have no doubt that events will escalate into WWIII, and i for one feel afraid.
Global relationships are already on a rocky ground and i have no wish to see WWIII in my lifetime.
I wonder then if people would actively boycott these nations, refusing to trade with them or buy their products? As a message to the political leaders
of these countries.
I'm not talking about nations as a whole boycotting them, but individuals. Individual people making a conscious decision to decide not to support
these countries by supplying them with money.
How many people on ATS would do this? I understand this is a potentially hot topic, as many ATS members are American. But i speak to you as a whole.
Would you Americans feel betrayed or would you see the justification in this?
What about the rest of the myriad nationalities that occupy ATS, how many of you would actively boycott America or Israel.
Thoughts please.
Edit: To add, a boycott could spread like wildfire thanks to the internet. So please don't think it's impossible or unlikely.
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reply posted on 28-9-2009 @ 03:02 PM by miss_silver
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Well, from what I know on the subject, just trade with Cuba and it is America that will boycott you.
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reply posted on 28-9-2009 @ 03:13 PM by poedxsoldiervet
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America can be self sustaining, we have oil, we have food, we have water, we have the strongest military, we have 300 million people, we have a very
large amount of land.... What we lack is common sense to use what we have "globlaztion" has killed America. A boycott on American goods? whats the
point its all made in China.
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reply posted on 28-9-2009 @ 03:15 PM by mr-lizard
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Originally posted by poedxsoldiervet
reply to post by miss_silver
America can be self sustaining, we have oil, we have food, we have water, we have the strongest military, we have 300 million people, we have a very
large amount of land.... What we lack is common sense to use what we have "globlaztion" has killed America. A boycott on American goods? whats the
point its all made in China.
Fair enough, can't argue with that - but what would the psychological effect of such a boycott do to the American morale?
If China stopped supplying Americans with their trade, would it not too affect you (aswell as China)? Unlikely i know, but it's certainly food for
thought.
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reply posted on 28-9-2009 @ 03:17 PM by mikerussellus
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Dang it! I was going to say that!!!
What IS made in America anymore? Bombs? Tanks? Software for porn? Well, I guess two out of three to boycott isn't bad. . . .
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reply posted on 28-9-2009 @ 03:18 PM by warrenb
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If Israel attacks Iran, I believe it's glove's off for the Arab world to retaliate
Sanctions serve no purpose other than to make people think something is being done.
my 2c
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reply posted on 28-9-2009 @ 03:26 PM by mikerussellus
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***honest question alert******
Why would the rest of the arab world retaliate? They didn't when Iraq invaded Kuwait. They didn't when we went into Iraq. They didn't when we
went to Afghanistan.
Why now?
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reply posted on 28-9-2009 @ 03:27 PM by sanchoearlyjones
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I think a boycott is an excellent idea  There is one currently for the Israeli persecution of the Palestinians. I believe products made in Israel
have SKU beginning with 7? The Brits are really standing up, and angry over what Israel is doing, and so are the French. They are already making
impacts with their boycott of Israeli goods.
I love my homeland of the USA, but the People in general just aren't the same. They are allowing these atrocities to be committed in their name, but
somehow think they aren't accountable, because it was the 'other guy'. The fact is We are all accountable for not standing up. I don't have a
problem with a boycott on Israel now, or on the USA should they join in a strike of Iran.
Actually the boycott would only affect big box store business, and those are owned by transnational mega corporations. I think boycotting them now
would help nuture the local economies, and make small hometown USA thrive once again.
S&F
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reply posted on 28-9-2009 @ 03:32 PM by lucentenigma
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I don't think we will have to worry about boycotting anything if WWIII breaks out.
Most will be worrying how to put food in their mouths.
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reply posted on 28-9-2009 @ 03:38 PM by TM62
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reply posted on 28-9-2009 @ 03:46 PM by mr-lizard
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Originally posted by sanchoearlyjones
reply to post by mr-lizard
Actually the boycott would only affect big box store business, and those are owned by transnational mega corporations. I think boycotting them now
would help nuture the local economies, and make small hometown USA thrive once again.
S&F
Exactly sir. Hurting the corporates cannot be a bad thing right? They've been crushing small businesses for years, so a little retaliation is
justified.
I've lost count of the amount of 'clone towns' i've seen here in the UK with a Mcdonalds, Tesco, and starbucks on each corner, slowly losing their
identities of hundreds and hundreds of years, just line some fat cats pockets.
Glad you're thinking like that, at least i'm not alone - and you didn't retaliate with the typical 'anti-american' stuff that people usually do
when i question the actions of your country 
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reply posted on 28-9-2009 @ 03:50 PM by dooper
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As an American, I think it should be boycotted.
So, exactly where are you badasses going to get your high technology fighter aircraft, radar technologies, cruise missiles, and then have the benefit
of falling under the umbrella of the United States military?
That would mean you'll have to significantly increase your navies, your air forces, and your armies.
Gee.
Should be no problem.
As an American taxpayer, maybe everyone should look out for themselves.
And I'll be damned if we're going back the THIRD TIME to pull Europe's bacon out of the fire.
Statements and postulations like this just burn my ass.
Take care of your own crap then, if you're able, and leave us out of it.
NATO should be changed to MATO.
Mostly American Treaty Organization.
Jeez.
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reply posted on 28-9-2009 @ 03:53 PM by SLAYER69
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I say we just start boycotting Chinamart ooops I mean Walmart right now.
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reply posted on 28-9-2009 @ 03:57 PM by sanchoearlyjones
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Hi dooper,
"You cannot invade the mainland United States.
There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass."
- Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto
What I advocate exactly is the People retaking control of their country. Something We've always had, but been coached into believing We don't.
The Japanese dude above got it right, and he wasn't talking about the American Armies, but the People alone.
What I advocate would help small business USA; the fear of the World isn't because of the Govt. as such, but of the People
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reply posted on 28-9-2009 @ 04:08 PM by mr-lizard
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Originally posted by dooper
As an American, I think it should be boycotted.
So, exactly where are you badasses going to get your high technology fighter aircraft, radar technologies, cruise missiles, and then have the benefit
of falling under the umbrella of the United States military?
Maybe we wouldn't need protection if your country didn't keep invading countries or threatening people or imposing hypocritical ideologies on lesser
nations.
Also some of the best inventions in the world came from europe and the UK and then later stolen by America.
That would mean you'll have to significantly increase your navies, your air forces, and your armies.
Only if you are obsessed by the ideas of warfare, i bet the idea of peace has never crossed your mind has it?
As an American taxpayer, maybe everyone should look out for themselves.
Not a bad idea. If it stops third parties dragging us into conflicts then it's not a bad idea at all.
And I'll be damned if we're going back the THIRD TIME to pull Europe's bacon out of the fire.
So.. It was America that won WW2 then? Judging by the amount of Hollywood movies it sure looks that way eh? No mention of the Russians, the
underground resistance movements or any of the other allies.
Yawn inducing rhetoric i'm afraid and it doesn't wash with me. Please read a few textbooks written from anywhere but America and you might learn a
few things.
Statements and postulations like this just burn my ass.
What does that even mean? Statements like this make you feel uncomfortable? Maybe you should question why you feel uncomfortable.
Take care of your own crap then, if you're able, and leave us out of it.
Same could be said about dozens of things around the world that have CIA fingers in certain pies. I bet the hypocrisy further burns your 'ass'
(arse) eh?
Thanks for your comments, they have been very....... educational.
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reply posted on 28-9-2009 @ 04:09 PM by mr-lizard
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Double post sorry
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reply posted on 28-9-2009 @ 04:10 PM by mr-lizard
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triple post...
very sorry.
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reply posted on 28-9-2009 @ 04:21 PM by sisgood
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Would someone please explain to me why you want a mad-man who has taken American hostages before to have nukes?
And please don't tell me you actually believe an impotent group like the UN would actually stop Abemnanut from doing anything. He has made it pretty
clear that if he gets these Nukes he will bomb Israel. All they are doing is planning to destroy the factories before nukes can be made. Israel is not
planning on Nuking unless they are Nuked. They will just use bunker busters to do the job.
Certain people (Abemnanut and Kim John Iliketokill) should be denied access to the "I got nukes!" club.
You wanna boycott something, boycott Iranian oil.
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reply posted on 28-9-2009 @ 04:25 PM by woodwardjnr
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Originally posted by mikerussellus
***honest question alert******
Why would the rest of the arab world retaliate? They didn't when Iraq invaded Kuwait. They didn't when we went into Iraq. They didn't when we
went to Afghanistan.
Why now?
Iranians are not Arabs, they are Persians.
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reply posted on 28-9-2009 @ 04:34 PM by Jnewell33
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With all do respect, the chances of the USA and Israel attacking Iran without England being involved in someway is highly unlikely. The US an UK are
attached at the hip in furthering their own interests. Would we also Boycott any other nation that allow Israel to use their airspace to launch a
strike? My guess is we will not see anything for years to come except similar concessions made towards Iran, not unlike the ones made to N. Korea.
Iran and N.Korea both have made it clear they will use the threat of nukes just to get a seat at the table.
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