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Are Most UFO Sightings Plasma Life Forms?

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posted on Sep, 4 2013 @ 10:16 PM
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I would not think there is only one type. If there is verification of alien life then there must be more then just one type there must be many from different areas in the universe.




posted on Sep, 4 2013 @ 10:32 PM
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It is not a suggestive question. Are you hungry is a suggestive question.

It is a double question. Created to ask two questions at once, because it is a topic issue.

The first unwritten question is, are there plasma life forms, and the second question is, are they the explanation for UFO sightings. I know what the question was meant to ask, because I asked the question. No where is there a statement, or a suggestion that plasma life form must exist.


You attempting to question how I could say he doesn't believe in plasma life forms is another attempt to obfuscate the debate and have people think "Oh yeah, he might actually believe in plasma life forms".


It is really ridiculous that you think you know what I am saying, when you don't even bother to read what I am saying.

This is what I actually posted.


Making such an observation does not claim there are plasma life forms, but it does make a a link. This would be evidence to investigate, otherwise why make the statement


First of all I clearly state he does not claim there are plasma life forms. Are you incapable of understanding the difference between believing in something, and recognizing a possibility? Or that someone can state a fact without stating an opinion, and possibly could not even entertain and opinion? Some people just seem to think in binary.


In other threads I have said it is within the realm of possibility that they could potentially exist given the amount of plasma in the universe, hell, what if god is a plasma life form and that's what the "spirit realm" is? Yes, I do believe in god. However I have no proof of that, just like we have absolutely zero evidence of a plasma life form,


You are starting to get it. I would say that there is more evidence that plasma life forms exist than God exists.

The point you are ignoring is that science recognizes that plasma acts like a living organism in certain states.



posted on Sep, 4 2013 @ 10:40 PM
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Sadly, the scientific community has become institutionalized. Modern science acts more like a religion than a group eager to explore the unknown.

If you read history, you will learn that a great many of those currently embrace by modern science, due to the validity of their theories, where shunned by academics in their day.

Keep an open mind, apply logic and reason, and ignore the pedigree of those making the claims.



posted on Sep, 4 2013 @ 10:45 PM
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Thank you for posting this thread. I was just thinking about this today that we are ignorant to believe that life does not exist in our upper atmosphere. We are finding all sorts of life in the craziest of places so it is plausible that life can exist in our atmosphere.

I am convinced that some of these sightings are life forms alien to us because we have not discovered them.



posted on Sep, 4 2013 @ 10:45 PM
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It's a cool thought, really. The diversification of life that we do know about, seems limitless. What is to say that some species have found a way to get off this planet, but needs to come back for whatever reasons. Plasma? perhaps not, but some kind of bio-luminescent protective field? Not so strange when you think about electric eels and cuttlefish...



posted on Sep, 4 2013 @ 10:46 PM
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Then you and I got very different outcomes from that thread, because what I took away from it is that people think they are aliens, and it was shown they weren't. So it seems obvious you pick and choose what you consider evidence, and have a preconceived notion about what you think these are.



posted on Sep, 4 2013 @ 10:57 PM
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You are the one who has been shown to pick and chose what you want, and to ignore that which is beyond your belief system. You grossly misinterpret what is written, and you ignore that which proves you wrong.

I have clearly pointed out the evidence of plasma life forms, and all you have done is cling to denial.



posted on Sep, 4 2013 @ 10:58 PM
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The idea that life has evolved in ways beyond our comprehension, capable of living in the upper atmosphere is truly amazing.

And quite plausible.



posted on Sep, 4 2013 @ 11:00 PM
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"Are you hungry?" is called a direct question (granted a type of suggestive question). The question in your opening post is unequivocally a suggestive question. Since this has apparently turned into an English lit class: Your question is a presumptuous question, a type of suggestive question and it even has an integrated direct question.

You obviously believe that these organisms exist and are UFO's otherwise you would not have said the video I linked has been debunked. They take the exact same equipment, and make the exact same shapes as seen in the tether video. You choose to dismiss that video because that would mean the object you want to be plasma life forms are simply reflections.

That plasma life forms exist isn't even a hypothesis, it's an idea. You are trying to make it seem like there is a valid scientific data/reasoning for thinking they exist or could exist, and again it seems obvious you think these life forms were involved in the tether incident.

Again, something taking on lifelike qualities does not mean it is alive. For example it has been recently discovered that water may have a 4th state wherein it also acts like a living cell...but we know that water isn't alive.
edit on 4-9-2013 by raymundoko because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 4 2013 @ 11:05 PM
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You haven't pointed out any evidence actually. You took the work of scientists, who don't believe there are plasma life forms, and have obfuscated their work to make it seem as though their work supports the IDEA that plasma life forms exist.



posted on Sep, 4 2013 @ 11:23 PM
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There was a video about a few years ago that was taken by a helicopter above a huge forest of trees in mountainous territory, I think it was in the western U.S., but not sure. I have searched for it, but have not been able to come up with it, perhaps someone can.

It depicts a really strange, floating, ganglion type "thing" floating around the tops of the tree tops, dipping into one tree, to the next, and finally taking off at a fairly good clip, straight up into the clouds. This thing looked like a pile of worms, for the best description I can offer, glowing whitish in color, writhling, changing shape.... Was convinced it was not CGI, and the comments from the people in the helicopter were rather unique..... Anyway, if someone recognizes my description, and knows where this video is located, a link to it would be really nice, and would amaze anyone that saw it. Thanks.



posted on Sep, 4 2013 @ 11:55 PM
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I don't think you have a clue what those scientist believe, and that you think you do is a pretty good example of your failure to look at the evidence presented.

I'll stick with the evidence.



posted on Sep, 4 2013 @ 11:56 PM
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That would be pretty cool to see.

There are a huge number of these plasma sightings. Hard to ignore.



posted on Sep, 5 2013 @ 12:02 AM
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Dude, you clearly don't have a clue what I think or believe. You don't even bother to think about what I have posted.

No one is saying plasma is alive, the concept is that there could be plasma state life forms.

What percentage of the human body is water?



posted on Sep, 5 2013 @ 12:03 AM
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Yeah, I think the possibilities are amazing.

There is so much more we have to learn.



posted on Sep, 5 2013 @ 12:29 AM
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Your actions say what you believe. You believe in Plasma life forms and you think they are orbiting the planet. That is pretty obvious. You can say "I am just saying it's a possibility and we have so much to learn" all you want, but the bottom line is your views are apparent.

If I started a thread titled "Are all Irish People Drunks?" and then started off with the question "What if 99% of all Irish people are drunks?" and then provided statistical data that I could kind of lean towards my theory wouldn't it be clear that I thought all Irish people are drunks...even though I am Irish and only have four glasses of bourbon a night?



posted on Sep, 5 2013 @ 09:52 PM
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You keep repeating the same vapid claim over and over.

Wouldn't it be better to contribute something worthwhile.

If you know anything about plasma in the upper atmosphere, then present some facts to present you opinion on the matter, and stop foolishly claiming you know what I think.

I think there are scientists using the terms elf and hobbit to describe these plasma phenomenon.



posted on Sep, 6 2013 @ 03:10 PM
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All the facts I have show plasma to be nothing more than a state of matter that does awesome stuff when electricity is involved...none of it would further any idea that there are plasma life forms. Since your end goal is to collect evidence for plasma life forms, of which there is currently none, how could my expertise be of any benefit to you? I would have to make a decision to take the knowledge I have and work or force fit it into a plasma life form model. However, all the data I have from my years of experience show me that that isn't the case, so why would I go down that path?

I've attempted to point out that you have gone about this backwards. You can't go into scientific subject matter with a preconception about what you want the outcome to be. Sure you can have an idea of expected results, but an expectation is not always the outcome.

I would tell you that no data humans currently have can be used as evidence to support a scientific hypothesis of plasma life forms. Anecdotal evidence cannot be used in the scientific process because it cannot be tested scientifically. So if a thousand people say "I see orbs in the sky over such and such city constantly" that is anecdotal evidence even though there are 1000 "eye witnesses". Why? Because if I then video every inch of the sky for a couple years and no orbs are ever captured, the evidence shows that something is causing tricks of the eye for those eye witnesses or the sightings very coincidentally stopped as filming began. They can say they know what they saw all they want, but their testimony cannot be allowed in the scientific process. Imagine if many of the eye witnesses claimed to see the orbs while video was recording yet nothing showed up on film.

It seems apparent we have different views on this. You didn't understand the scientific paper I posted discussing the excitation of plasma during the tether event, and you completely disregarded the video which shows replication of the reflections. Based on those two items alone it seems evident you either seek a specific outcome or have absolutely no understanding of plasma physics beyond a few news articles you found on google.



posted on Sep, 7 2013 @ 03:00 PM
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As I thought, you really have nothing to contribute but the common variety combination of arrogance and ignorance. Clearly, you didn't even bother to read the opening post where I made this clear statement.


When you do the research, you find that there is a great deal of evidence that this might be true, yet the scientific community remains mum on the issue.


There is considerable evidence presented in the thread, which you clearly will not bother to read.

While you may have succeeded in working hard and passing the classes, from your posts it seems that you never understood the material, or the scientific process.

In order to prove a theory, you first have to gather and test evidence, all kinds of evidence, and develop the theory through the process. Then, and only then, when you have the enough evidence do you take a theory to public court in the scientific community to gain approval.

This is a discussion on a conspiracy theory website, to consider what is a very amazing possibility. Where do you think you are posting? Nobody, at least not I, have claimed that it has been proven that plasma life forms exist, or that empirical evidence exists and despite this having been clearly stated, you insist on claiming you know what is in my own mind, and insulting me and belittling me. This being said, so goes the saying, consider the source, and you being the source, your posts carry very little weight.



posted on Sep, 7 2013 @ 03:29 PM
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Originally posted by johnmhinds
99.9% of reported UFOs are cgi/hoaxes, planes, helicopters, satellites, planets, balloons, birds, insects, faults in the film, etc... and the other 0.1% are unexplained electrical phenomena like ball lightning.

So no, most UFO sightings are not "Plasma Life Forms".


thank goodness you replied to this post, now I can burn all my literature about ufo's and all the images and clips can be destroyed, as you have solved the whole ufo/alien/plasma spectrum in one foul swoop.. excellent thanks, now I can go back to fishing, unless of course what I think are fish are 99.99% fake no not hake I did say fake.. oh well something must be real, i know, I'll keep looking..





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