Are Most UFO Sightings Plasma Life Forms?

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posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 02:44 AM
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Here is some information on a important figure in plasma science who has been ignored by mainstream science. Trevor J Constable, a New Zealander who had a career in the Merchant Marines before he began investigating and experimentating with plasma theory.

educate-yourself.org...


In the late 80s and early 90s, he documented a series of smog reduction operations in southern California. These proved the effectiveness of etheric manipulation techniques against smog, in an area considered the largest and filthiest smog region in America. Funded by Singapore businessman and entrepreneur George K. C. Wuu, these operations culminated in a full-season, anti-smog operation in 1990, using fourteen stations throughout southern California. Smog came down in that single season by an astonishing 24 percent, for a total investment cost of $35,000. Federal and state authorities were notified-IN ADVANCE- of this smog reduction endeavor using official forms. Despite Trevor's stellar results, California was not interested in the further use of these techniques and has since seen smog expenditures exceed $10 billion, with no end in sight for 2003.


The part of the article that I found very interesting is this one.


Trevor's greatest literary contribution to humanity is surely The Cosmic Pulse of Life, first published in 1975. Here, he elucidates the great forward leaps engendered by the likes of Rudolf Steiner, Wilhelm Reich, and Ruth Drown, an advanced soul who Trevor often described as a 'saint' who was first crucified, and then literally murdered by orthodox medical interests working through government stooges. Dr. Drown's invention of Radio-Vision alone, an embarrassingly simple instrument used to obtain CAT scan-like X-ray images of a patient-at a distance, should have earned Drown the Nobel Prize in the early 1930's. Instead, she was forced to endure a lifetime of unending pillorying, vilification, belittlement and kangaroo courts designed to break her emotionally, physically, and financially. In the chapters titled The Boys Downstairs and The Battle for The Earth, Trevor brings to light-25 years before anyone heard of the name David Icke-the hidden hand of the Ahrimanic powers, malevolent fourth dimensional alien forces who are subverting and enslaving humankind from within. Other chapters in this magnificent compendium deal with the Four Ethers, UFO's, Critters, Etherean science, Meade Layne (founder of the Borderland Sciences Foundation), George Van Tassel, Ernst Lehrs, Dr Franklin Thomas, and a host of other important revelations and personalities too numerous to include here.


The plot thickens.




posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 03:41 AM
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Originally posted by johnmhinds

Originally posted by karl 12
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You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.


So you believe that the thread title is correct and that most UFOs could be "Plasma Lifeforms"?



No, I'm saying this statement of yours is woefully misinformed and
( at best ) wilfully ignorant.


99.9% of reported UFOs are cgi/hoaxes, planes, helicopters, satellites, planets, balloons, birds, insects, faults in the film, etc... and the other 0.1% are unexplained electrical phenomena like ball lightning.



posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 03:50 AM
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I have yet to see one iota of proof that 99.99% of UFO sightings are explained.

Most of these supposed explanations I have read, amount to the establishment telling us to believe only what they tell us to believe.

edit - In other words, I completely agree with you Carl 12.

[edit on 29-9-2009 by poet1b]



posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 03:50 AM
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Originally posted by johnmhinds
99.9% of reported UFOs are cgi/hoaxes, planes, helicopters, satellites, planets, balloons, birds, insects, faults in the film, etc... and the other 0.1% are unexplained electrical phenomena like ball lightning.

So no, most UFO sightings are not "Plasma Life Forms".


Ignorance is bliss.



posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 03:54 AM
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Originally posted by poet1b
SEE:
www.roswellrods.com... high-speed sky creatures


well, if you put basis on Jose Escamilla with his alleged misterious rods... that explains a lot!



[edit on 29/9/09 by depthoffield]



posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 04:04 AM
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Maybe you could do a better job of explaining just how these mysterious rods explain a lot?

What is it about plasma theory that makes debunkers go bonkers?

I have provided a great deal of scientific evidence.



posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 01:15 PM
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I don't know the science of what means plasma. I never studied science but from experience

I have seen many types of ufo orbs

The ufo orbs look like NASA critters

The ufo orbs (plasmas) can form circlular formation and appear disc shaped from below

They come in many different colours not just the standard amber/orange and white

They can scan the ground/air using a light beam (red type)

So even though I'm not sure if plasmas are indeed ufo orbs - If they are then yes plasmas do account for most ufo sightings

The next question is what are these plasmas/ufo orbs, because I know for a fact they are connected with much larger mothership type vessels.



posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 01:23 PM
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Originally posted by poet1b
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Maybe you could do a better job of explaining just how these mysterious rods explain a lot?


Well at least you didn't link directly to the Roswellrods site, so hopefully you're playing with a full deck.

But the inference is that you should be more selective of the sources you choose to quote because your source links to the roswellrods site so the source obviously isn't playing with a full deck to do that. We all know what rods are by now so linking to that site is surely no sign of credibility for your source.

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posted on Sep, 29 2009 @ 06:35 PM
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Originally posted by johnmhinds
What the hell.
I'm supposed to be the one giving proof here?

Did any of you stop to ask the guy claiming that he had evidence that most UFOs were "Plasma Lifeforms" if he had any proof?

And i'm the ignorant one here?

And you wonder why the UFO community is laughed at.


When you claim 99.9% of sightings are hoaxes/CGI blah blah blah, yes you should post something to back that statement up.

Poet posted evidence to back up their statements.

You clearly didn't even fully read their opening post.



posted on Sep, 30 2009 @ 09:47 AM
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I give you David Bohm and foo fighters and focus in on some Roswell sight cause a link is on one of the page?

I guess people see what they want to see.



posted on Sep, 30 2009 @ 10:23 AM
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I think you're right.

Don't you see the irony in posting a comment like this:


Originally posted by poet1b
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If you had a better link than wiki for your study that tries to claim what percentage of UFOs have been identified, it might be credible, but wiki certainly is not.


And then linking to a far less credible source than Wiki yourself?

I can't say Wiki is 100% accurate, it's not. But I think the information I posted from Wiki is an accurate representation of the studies conducted.

But to say wiki is not credible and then quote from a fringe site with no credibility seems very ironic to me.



posted on Sep, 30 2009 @ 10:27 AM
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This is definitely what I thought when I saw this thread:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

It certainly seems plausible for some of the UFO observations.



posted on Sep, 30 2009 @ 10:54 AM
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I too have seen some seemingly intelligently controlled spheres that could be described as a steady plasma. I have seen a bunch of small blue ones flying in a line in lockstep on two separate occasions and a large orange one about 3m across.

Boltzmann (another respected scientist) also considered Boltzmann Brains



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posted on Sep, 30 2009 @ 11:09 AM
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It would be hypocritical if my only source was such an unreliable source as wiki, but I have posted several other links, and your criticism is a link on a link I posted, not a direct link, so you really are barking up the wrong tree here.

Either you can find a more credible source for the information you provided, or you can not.



posted on Sep, 30 2009 @ 11:13 AM
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No that's not what plasma looks like. I've only seen plasma in one thread on ATS, as shown in these photos:

from: www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by Psynarchist

It does seem to show a darker part along the bottom, so maybe he didn't rotate the camera. Could it still possibly be something he threw in the powerlines that then violently 'sparked' to the left by sheer electro/magnetic power?

I have no clue, but here's the sequence as in the original video:



That's what plasma looks like, I'm 99.99% sure that's plasma.

There could be plasma in other ATS threads I haven't seen since I haven't looked at all the threads. But that's the only one I know of.



posted on Sep, 30 2009 @ 11:26 AM
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David Bohm was a pioneer in the development of the study of plasma. He was a very respected physicist, whose theories should probably be given a great deal more attention by current scientists.

www.theosophy-nw.org...


In the 1930s he attended Pennsylvania State College where he became deeply interested in quantum physics, the physics of the subatomic realm. After graduating, he attended the University of California, Berkeley. While there he worked at the Lawrence Radiation Laboratory where, after receiving his doctorate in 1943, he began what was to become his landmark work on plasmas (a plasma is a gas containing a high density of electrons and positive ions). Bohm was surprised to find that once electrons were in a plasma, they stopped behaving like individuals and started behaving as if they were part of a larger and interconnected whole. He later remarked that he frequently had the impression that the sea of electrons was in some sense alive.

In 1951 Bohm wrote a classic textbook entitled Quantum Theory, in which he presented a clear account of the orthodox, Copenhagen interpretation of quantum physics. The Copenhagen interpretation was formulated mainly by Niels Bohr and Werner Heisenberg in the 1920s and is still highly influential today.

Bohm sent copies of his textbook to Bohr and Einstein. Bohr did not respond, but Einstein phoned him to say that he wanted to discuss it with him. In the first of what was to turn into a six-month series of spirited conversations, Einstein enthusiastically told Bohm that he had never seen quantum theory presented so clearly, and admitted that he was just as dissatisfied with the orthodox approach as Bohm was. They both admired quantum theory's ability to predict phenomena, but could not accept that it was complete and that it was impossible to arrive at any clearer understanding of what was going on in the quantum realm.


There is considerably more that I will post later, that I can quote from this article, but I don't want to quote too much in one post.

What this clearly establishes is that plasma study has been around for a very long time, and it has been recognized by even Einstein.

Here is one other snippet I would like to add.


In 1982 a remarkable experiment to test quantum interconnectedness was performed by a research team led by physicist Alain Aspect in Paris. The original idea was contained in a thought experiment (also known as the "EPR paradox") proposed in 1935 by Albert Einstein, Boris Podolsky, and Nathan Rosen, but much of the later theoretical groundwork was laid by David Bohm and one of his enthusiastic supporters, John Bell of CERN, the physics research center near Geneva. The results of the experiment clearly showed that subatomic particles that are far apart are able to communicate in ways that cannot be explained by the transfer of physical signals traveling at or slower than the speed of light. Many physicists, including Bohm, regard these "nonlocal" connections as absolutely instantaneous. An alternative view is that they involve subtler, nonphysical energies traveling faster than light, but this view has few adherents since most physicists still believe that nothing-can exceed the speed of light.


Hmm, does speed of thought come to mind to anyone? I think this can be considered as scientific evidence of the existence of psychic abilities. Being that we have subatomic particles in us, what are the chances that our subatomic particles and communicate with other subatomic particles in the same manner?

We have scientific evidence of the existence of apparition like plasma beings, which suggests scientific evidence to support ghosts, and possibly even proof of the human soul, or a soul for all living creatures, and yet it remains largely ignore by mainstream media, hidden from the mainstream public.

It seems to me that this is the mother of all conspiracies, yet hardly anyone is paying attention. I even looked for another thread before starting this one, which someone else pointed out after I started this one, which I did not find earlier.

I guess the subject matter is a little too spooky for most people.

Oops, edit to correct script mistake.






[edit on 30-9-2009 by poet1b]



posted on Sep, 30 2009 @ 11:33 AM
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Originally posted by johnmhinds
99.9% of reported UFOs are cgi/hoaxes, planes, helicopters, satellites, planets, balloons, birds, insects, faults in the film, etc... and the other 0.1% are unexplained electrical phenomena like ball lightning.

So no, most UFO sightings are not "Plasma Life Forms".


Please state your source and/or proof. You dont know how moronic YOU sound, sir.



posted on Sep, 30 2009 @ 11:36 AM
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Yeah, that is a good one. Most of these UFO sightings that look credible seem to have this plasma like look about them.

Considering the vast amount of plasma that surrounds the Earth, the numerous variations of such life forms, if they are eventually found to exist, could very be as numerous as current life forms as we know them.

I think it is very likely that these life forms have been proven to exist, but the information is being withheld.

Gee, if the public found out that there is scientific evidence that they might indeed have eternal souls, there would very likely be a world wide turn away from the material, and back towards the spiritual. I would also think that mainstream religion would suddenly find that its followers start to turn to their own thought about the nature of man and God.



posted on Sep, 30 2009 @ 11:47 AM
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There are so many pictures and videos with numerous forms of plasma on the web site, that you could never link to them all.

You should do a little research, learn exactly what plasma is, before you go making such statements that


I've only seen plasma in one thread on ATS, as shown in these photos:


Clearly you should do some research.

Lighting, plasma, stars, plasma, aurora borealis, plasma, and those are just a few examples.



posted on Sep, 30 2009 @ 12:02 PM
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Hmm, very interesting, here is another article on the Big Brain Theory. I probably shouldn't link to the NY Times because they will take it down by tomorrow, but I found this interesting.

www.nytimes.com...


The Boltzmann brain problem arises from a string of logical conclusions that all spring from another deep and old question, namely why time seems to go in only one direction. Why can’t you unscramble an egg? The fundamental laws governing the atoms bouncing off one another in the egg look the same whether time goes forward or backward. In this universe, at least, the future and the past are different and you can’t remember who is going to win the Super Bowl next week.


I participated in a lengthy discussion on whether or not time actually exists. My example of proof that time exists was based on what is needed to hit a baseball. Lots of fun.

I felt I should also quote this from the article.


Boltzmann said that entropy was all about odds, however, and if we waited long enough the random bumping of atoms would occasionally produce the cosmic equivalent of an egg unscrambling. A rare fluctuation would decrease the entropy in some place and start the arrow of time pointing and history flowing again. That is not what happened. Astronomers now know the universe has not lasted forever. It was born in the Big Bang, which somehow set the arrow of time, 14 billion years ago.


Sorry, but the big bang theory that the universe was once one giant atom is even more ridiculous. Anyone who claims this as a fact is ludicrous. For some reason the mainstream seems hell bent on pushing this highly controversial theory as fact.

The end is coming, so shop til you drop, as apposed to the idea that we really are all interconnected, and live in a universe without beginning or end.





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