I think people who use their phone while driving should lose their license. It's obvious that they don't understand the responsibility of driving a
car, so they shouldn't be allowed to do so.
I also think that all new cars should be equipped with cell phone jammers that make it impossible to use the phone when the car is running.
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reply posted on 30-9-2009 @ 10:11 PM by greeneyedleo
Just found this article and I thought it should be added to this thread 
Click on LINK to read more.
news.yahoo.com...
Administration takes aim at distracted driving
By KEN THOMAS, Associated Press Writer Ken Thomas, Associated Press Writer – Wed Sep 30, 6:42 pm ET
WASHINGTON – Driving while distracted is a growing peril in a nation reluctant to put down its cell phones and handheld devices even behind the wheel, the Obama administration declared on Wednesday. Officials said Congress and the public must team up to reduce the danger.
Opening a two-day meeting to find ways to reduce drivers' use of mobile devices, the Transportation Department reported that nearly 6,000 people were killed and a half-million were injured last year in vehicle crashes connected to driver distraction. That includes drivers talking on cell phones and texting.
"To put it plainly, distracted driving is a menace to society," Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood said. "Distracted driving is an epidemic and it seems to be getting worse every year."
The meeting gathered experts to examine the potentially deadly mix of driving with cell phones, mobile devices, and other distractions that divert attention from the road. LaHood said he would offer recommendations on Thursday that could lead to new restrictions on the use of the devices behind the wheel.
While the meeting focused on drivers using cell phones and mobile devices, participants noted that distractions could include reaching into the back seat, applying makeup or eating.
Click on LINK to read more.
reply posted on 21-10-2009 @ 03:21 PM by elevatedone
reply to post by greeneyedleo
Thanks for adding that.
My daughter is about to get her license. We had a nice talk about distractions while driving. Remember it all starts at home and with what we teach our children.
Thanks for adding that.
My daughter is about to get her license. We had a nice talk about distractions while driving. Remember it all starts at home and with what we teach our children.
reply posted on 21-10-2009 @ 11:09 PM by ReelView
First off "Punishment" is a very bad social conditioning. There is and should not be any authority that can prevent them from doing what they want.
IT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT A CRIME and rationals otherwise violate the constitution and open the door to the massive criminal activity of the police and
city/state governments today. No private citizen must have a drivers license under real law. All the tickets and licensing are criminal actions of
fraud, extortion and even kidnapping by city/state governments.
There are two and only two criminal courts in the US. This is because the founding fathers knew from experience the kinds of massive abuse that was occurring without valid accountable law in existence. The massive crime of the government is a direct result of not respecting true Criminal Law. The first and foremost crime is that of deceiving people in and into agreements. This is real crime and the basis of all ticketing and "statutory" (fictional) enforcement against ordinary living humans. Fictional law of statutes, regulations, policies, etc. is to address fictional entities like corporations, professional licenses, etc.. It does not and can not apply to a living human unless they are tricked by fraud into thinking it applies to them.
For any crime or civil suit, there MUST BE AN INJURED PARTY. The injured party MUST be a live human. It can NOT be a fiction such as a city/state. Even if the city/state claimed injury it would NOT be law but fictions in statutes. No city/state can claim injury even in fraud without forcing a change of venue because of conflict of interests. The state can not claim to be the injured party and try the case. They would have to move the case to federal court.
Stop lights, speed limits, etc. can not be lawfully enforced and shouldn't be. They are enforced by massive criminal activity. What should happen is they should be viewed as guidelines and when an accident occurs then violating the guideline should increase the civil penalty. But WITHOUT THE PROOF OF DELIBERATE intent IT IS NOT A CRIME. The promotion of this fake crime is simply because every city is a for profit corporation. It is really nothing but a mafia money making scam masquerading as "Justice", "Safety", etc. and the image is supported with some instances of real crime and criminal activity that is manufactured for that very purpose.
We are brainwashed into thinking we are being made safe by "Punishing" and that is far from the truth. By far, the greatest criminal activity in the United States by being perpetrated by the city/state governments. Basically the criminals have found a niche in setting themselves up as the virtuous and entitled. The average policy officer is really a poor victim of being moved from a liability (Peace Officer watching out for the community) to a being a profit center (Policy Enforcer siting at the speed trap). TV etc. promote the just punishment nonsense to sell the criminal governments.
A common sense question related to ticketing and the like. If the judge is paid by the city and the police officer is paid by the city and the police officer is the witness for the prosecution and both of them know there paycheck is, at the very least, supported by revenue generated from "Ticket sales", where is the objective justice residing?
Isn't it interesting that it is supposedly mandatory to have car insurance and tickets cause the insurance rates to go up and cities (www.cafr1.com...) invest in corporations and perhaps, as for profit corporation, cities are invested in (at least via bond sales). Again, where is the objective justice residing? This is exactly what the founding fathers wanted to prevent and what IS PREVENTED by the limits in place in the constitution. But is not known to the average citizen. The exposure of this fraud is going to become more and more known and citizen grand juries are going to turn this around or everyone is going to be just preyed upon as lavishly as the criminals care to.
There are two and only two criminal courts in the US. This is because the founding fathers knew from experience the kinds of massive abuse that was occurring without valid accountable law in existence. The massive crime of the government is a direct result of not respecting true Criminal Law. The first and foremost crime is that of deceiving people in and into agreements. This is real crime and the basis of all ticketing and "statutory" (fictional) enforcement against ordinary living humans. Fictional law of statutes, regulations, policies, etc. is to address fictional entities like corporations, professional licenses, etc.. It does not and can not apply to a living human unless they are tricked by fraud into thinking it applies to them.
For any crime or civil suit, there MUST BE AN INJURED PARTY. The injured party MUST be a live human. It can NOT be a fiction such as a city/state. Even if the city/state claimed injury it would NOT be law but fictions in statutes. No city/state can claim injury even in fraud without forcing a change of venue because of conflict of interests. The state can not claim to be the injured party and try the case. They would have to move the case to federal court.
Stop lights, speed limits, etc. can not be lawfully enforced and shouldn't be. They are enforced by massive criminal activity. What should happen is they should be viewed as guidelines and when an accident occurs then violating the guideline should increase the civil penalty. But WITHOUT THE PROOF OF DELIBERATE intent IT IS NOT A CRIME. The promotion of this fake crime is simply because every city is a for profit corporation. It is really nothing but a mafia money making scam masquerading as "Justice", "Safety", etc. and the image is supported with some instances of real crime and criminal activity that is manufactured for that very purpose.
We are brainwashed into thinking we are being made safe by "Punishing" and that is far from the truth. By far, the greatest criminal activity in the United States by being perpetrated by the city/state governments. Basically the criminals have found a niche in setting themselves up as the virtuous and entitled. The average policy officer is really a poor victim of being moved from a liability (Peace Officer watching out for the community) to a being a profit center (Policy Enforcer siting at the speed trap). TV etc. promote the just punishment nonsense to sell the criminal governments.
A common sense question related to ticketing and the like. If the judge is paid by the city and the police officer is paid by the city and the police officer is the witness for the prosecution and both of them know there paycheck is, at the very least, supported by revenue generated from "Ticket sales", where is the objective justice residing?
Isn't it interesting that it is supposedly mandatory to have car insurance and tickets cause the insurance rates to go up and cities (www.cafr1.com...) invest in corporations and perhaps, as for profit corporation, cities are invested in (at least via bond sales). Again, where is the objective justice residing? This is exactly what the founding fathers wanted to prevent and what IS PREVENTED by the limits in place in the constitution. But is not known to the average citizen. The exposure of this fraud is going to become more and more known and citizen grand juries are going to turn this around or everyone is going to be just preyed upon as lavishly as the criminals care to.
reply posted on 21-10-2009 @ 11:17 PM by ItIsWhatItIs
reply to post by jd140
Um. You know some people can multi task.
If any cop tries to ticket me for talking while driving, he'll get a finger.
I guess we should outlaw stick shifts because it's such a distraction while driving. Also, lets make all cars 1 seated because passengers are a distraction.
Um. You know some people can multi task.
If any cop tries to ticket me for talking while driving, he'll get a finger.
I guess we should outlaw stick shifts because it's such a distraction while driving. Also, lets make all cars 1 seated because passengers are a distraction.
only idiots can't drive and multi task, lets punish everyone for those idiots
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