We so need ID cards Gordon!, page 1

The news recently in the UK has been quite busy showing how illegal immigrants and potentail illegal imigrants are in our scoiety and in fact doing quite well for themselves thank you very much.

The first story was that France have just cleared the "Jungle" in Calais, hundreds if not thousands of people all waiting for an opportunity to get into the UK, dont know why, its bad enough here for all of us. So I guess in a week or so, we will see a Panorama doc about how these people are still able to enter the UK illegally, so thats the danger bit, and these people could well be the next wave of terrorists.

Then we get the story that will hit us in the pocket and our head, that these immigrants are actually doing quite well in the UK, the cheeky little buggers.

Lady Scotland Employs Illegal Immigrant

And today we get yet another shocking story, of another illegal immigrant doing very well.

Face of Tesco is Illegal Immigrant

So my guess is that soon, something will happen that will be cruel or nasty, such as murder etc.

Then we will all turn to government and ask for ID cards, so that we can be safe, and to stop these illegal immigrants, doing alright for themselves as the face of Tesco's and working for the top people in government.

Its back on the agends guys, you watch.

[edit on 28-9-2009 by multichild]

Nuh uh, no way am I getting an ID card....bloody waste of money more than anything, not to mention the fact that you've got ALL of your personal/medical info in one place for someone to steal.
And for the people who say that it'll cut down on illegal immigrants, 1. I don't believe that it will - if folks are desperate enough to cross deserts to reach Europe (more here), then I reckon they're gonna find a way to make fake ID cards and 2. oh no, people whose lives are waaay worse than ours are attempting to create a more bearable way of living for themselves and their families! Quick! Where's the shotgun!?

[edit on 28/9/09 by XHellcatX]

reply to post by Merigold

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Hi Merigold, I think being the poster girl for Tesco's is quite a good job actually if you've got the face so to speak. it doesnt do Kate Moss any harm, when she's the poster girl for a jean company, and it hasnt done a few others any harm either with their marketing exploits.

I doubt she still doing checkout work, and imagine the work that will follow, and as for the maid, working for a government minister is quite a lot better id say than working at a mars bar packing factory, or stuck in a box in calais.

the post was in honesty a snipe at the ID card, i wouldnt want it for the world, but i fear its going ot be dragged back into the popular agenda, and pushed on us more.

Originally posted by woodwardjnr
its never gone off the agenda under Gordon Brown. Maybe the only good thing about our next masters the Torries will be the scrapping of the ID card's. Although when in power, the Torries may actually like the idea of ID cards and DNA data bases.

I don't think the Tories will scrap ID cards at all. They might "alter" the legislation, but they will find a way so as not to have to pay out any money in cancellation penalties to companies who were expecting to get the contracts that Labour are advertising for at the moment.

After all they have started advertising ID cards now and civil servants will do anything so as to not look foolish. See:

www.kable.co.uk...

Also Chris Grayling (the shadow home secretary) has said that the NIR will be scrapped, by he added that the UK will need to issue "biometric" passports (and by this I presume he means "fingerprints) in order for the bearer to travel to the USA. But The USA currently takes flat fingerprints from non-US-citizens entering the country (although it doesn't take them from US passport holders, and has announced no plans to issue fingerprint passports to Americans). I've seen no evidence that the US plans to treat non-US citizens differently at immigration control depending on whether they do or don't carry fingerprint passports. There are plenty of countries that have no announced plans to issue fingerprint passports.

I do wonder where Chris Grayling got the idea that the USA will make it harder to get into that country if you're a non-US citizen without a fingerprint passport.

Without this reason for issuing fingerprint passports, Mr Grayling's justification for spending £3bn-odd on the infrastructure to issue them disappears.

www.youtube.com...

Originally posted by XHellcatX
Nuh uh, no way am I getting an ID card....bloody waste of money more than anything, not to mention the fact that you've got ALL of your personal/medical info in one place for someone to steal.
And for the people who say that it'll cut down on illegal immigrants, 1. I don't believe that it will - if folks are desperate enough to cross deserts to reach Europe (more here), then I reckon they're gonna find a way to make fake ID cards and 2. oh no, people whose lives are waaay worse than ours are attempting to create a more bearable way of living for themselves and their families! Quick! Where's the shotgun!?

[edit on 28/9/09 by XHellcatX]

I believe the UK ID card has been cloned already and it hasn't even been "launched" yet.

Take a look at this, it's two months old now, but all the facts are still there. And it shows what the card looks like:

news.bbc.co.uk...

What I simply don't understand is why the UK government is so keen on foisting this on the people. They are willing to spend an inordinate amount of money (EVEN IF IT IS NOT THEIR MONEY THEY ARE SPENDING, BUT MONEY EXTORTED FROM THE PEOPLE) and even forgo the chance of being the government again in 2010, and they are not letting the fact that by far most people are against such idiocy.

What do you think is their game?

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