NASA's Apollo DSE "Black Box" Transcripts - revealing the unscripted truth about the Moon & E.T., page 5
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reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 12:36 AM by Skeptical Ed
Originally posted by Phage
Here's an image of the "pyramid" in Icarus crater. LunaCognita doesn't seem to have looked too hard.
lpod.wikispaces.com...

Hi Rez scan:


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I wouldn't call that cone peak a pyramid. Why are pyramid shapes on the moon of such importance? In one of the PLATES in my "LUNAR ORBITER PHOTOGRAPHIC ATLAS OF THE MOON" there is an almost perfect triangular pyramid which I used to debunk lunar structures aficionados back in the early '80s who claimed such structures were constructed by aliens.



reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 12:40 AM by Zelong
Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by Zelong

The aircraft carrier USS Hornet was the recovery vessel.
See? Little jokey comments.


Thanks Phage , of course.Glad this came from you I know if Jimmy had read my comment I would of been Shredded


Zelong.


reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 12:55 AM by Phage
reply to post by easynow

Those tracks are on the outer slopes of the crater itself, running downslope (steep). They're pretty interesting. Most obvious guess would be that they are boulder tracks but that's hard to reconcile with the pairings. There are a few sets of them. Some just appear and disappear, some display changes in separation. Some seem to run right across small craters. My thought is that they are some sort of "mini-rille"; collapsed lava tubes or something. Nothing "triangular" about them though, I don't think that's what they were talking about.



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reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 12:56 AM by Skeptical Ed
Originally posted by Aliensun
reply to post by Skeptical Ed


Skeptical Ed: Wow! If a person has no knowledge of Remote Viewing (RV) they just might possible believe that you are an authority on the topic and take your word for it that there is no such thing.

So for those that would tend to accept his ignorant words, I suggest they read the book entitled Mind-Reach: Scientists Look at Psychic Ability as authored by Russell Targ and Dr. Harold Puthoff. They ran the original CIA's million dollar RV program at Stanford University in the mid-70s and wrote of its successes. No lesser of a person than Margaret Mead wrote the introduction. Ingo Swann's manual that he wrote for the later US army program /is/was downloadable for free. (I have a copy.) Even so Mr. Ed wants you to believe that the Army's program that went on for several years after the initial proof-of-concept experiments was all a sham or didn't really exist?

It makes me wonder about the motives of some debunkers here. Obviously, it not for the interest of truth or a lack of easily available info. Can simple ignorance be that profound?


I've never stated on ATS that I'm an authority on anything, I merely stated my opinion such as you've done. I also did not debunk anything. I don't accept as factual reports anyone being successful in remote viewing or having psychic abilities. You answered your own last question.

I suggest that you read this and memorize it:
"If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all." -- Noam Chomsky

www.randi.org...
An Encyclopedia of Claims, Frauds, and Hoaxes of the Occult and Supernatural

remote viewing This phenomenon first became a celebrated subject after parapsychologists Harold Puthoff and Russell Targ published a scientific paper which reported on experiments in which a remote location had been chosen, an experimenter visited there, and a subject recorded his or her psychic impressions of the spot. Their results seemed to prove that a “remote sensing” faculty did exist.

Subsequently, properly controlled tests were done by several other researchers, eliminating several sources of cuing and extraneous evidence that had been present in the tests. These new tests produced negative results. The data of Puthoff and Targ were reexamined by the other researchers, and it was found that their students were able to solve the locations without use of any psychic powers, using only the clues that had inadvertently been included in the Puthoff and Targ transcripts.


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reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 03:39 AM by Phage
reply to post by Revolution-2012

LunaCognita is lying. He is lying about the audio tapes being lost and he is lying about the book he quotes. First of all, from the very source that LC cites, Neil Armstrong did not make the statement about the things said and done during the transmission being planned in advance, Buzz Aldrin did. Second (from the source), the statement was only about their first live broadcast from space. It's not surprising that NASA wanted to put on a show.

Armstrong did not follow a script. I wonder why LC left this out of his little presentation:
Neil used no written aids, having thought through what he wanted to do and say only shortly before the TV transmission.
books.google.com...
Of course, you can ignore context if you want. Context in the book, context in the recordings, context in the transcripts. You can even turn it around and say the book is lying, not LC.

BTW, "cue cards" have more than one purpose.
Apollo cue cards are very desired space collectibles. They are flown, and similar to flight plans and other checklists.



www.astro-auction.com...

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reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 04:08 AM by easynow
reply to post by Phage


Neil Armstrong did not make the statement about the things said and done during the transmission being planned in advance, Buzz Aldrin did.


no kidding...duh

it say's in the video "while being interviewed for Neil Armstrongs biography"....

Buzz Aldrin was asked about the Tv broadcasts





try watching the video Phage before you go accusing someone of telling lies...thanks


reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 04:15 AM by Phage
reply to post by easynow

Wup. Missed that.
2 lies instead of 3. Actually, still three. Aldrin was talking about the first broadcast, not all the broadcasts.

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reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 04:33 AM by easynow
reply to post by Phage


i might be wrong but i believe LunaCognita is talking about the actual tapes that are supposedly missing, not some copy of them.

can you prove the actual tapes still exist ? and where are they ?


Phage read your own signature ...

Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.
-Mark Twain







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reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 05:49 AM by easynow
reply to post by Phage


Wup. Missed that.
2 lies instead of 3. Actually, still three. Aldrin was talking about the first broadcast, not all the broadcasts.


yea Wup is right



it say's in the video....

"in recent years astronaut Buzz Aldrin has conformed that the various CSM Tv Transmissions made during his Apollo 11 flight were pre-planned and scripted"


how is that a lie ?



you falsely accused LunaCognita on the Quote from Buzz about what he said in the book interview because you didn't pay close enough attention to what was presented in the video and if you can't prove that the actual black box tapes still exist (not copies) than you sir in my opinion owe LunaCognita an Apology for accusing him of lying.

what say you ?







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