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NASA's Apollo DSE "Black Box" Transcripts - revealing the unscripted truth about the Moon & E.T.


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reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 03:16 AM by Svaba


Can someone tell me is there anyway to get off this planet? Really!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 03:24 AM by charlyv


This is one of the best threads on ATS. More solid evidence here than anywhere else, and it is all printed officially from source, for all to see. Absolutely awesome.



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reply posted on 4-11-2009 @ 12:49 PM by mcrom901


cherio.... read here all about the newly discovered moon 'hole' which points to the possibility of lunar subterranean tunnels n what not....




A deep hole on the moon that could open into a vast underground tunnel has been found for the first time. The discovery strengthens evidence for subsurface, lava-carved channels that could shield future human colonists from space radiation and other hazards.

The moon seems to possess long, winding tunnels called lava tubes that are similar to structures seen on Earth. They are created when the top of a stream of molten rock solidifies and the lava inside drains away, leaving a hollow tube of rock.

Their existence on the moon is hinted at based on observations of sinuous rilles – long, winding depressions carved into the lunar surface by the flow of lava. Some sections of the rilles have collapsed, suggesting that hollow lava tubes hide beneath at least some of the rilles.

But until now, no one has found an opening into what appears to be an intact tube. "There's sort of a chicken-and-egg problem," says Carolyn van der Bogert of the University of Münster in Germany. "If it's intact, you can't see it."

Finding a hole in a rille could suggest that an intact tube lies beneath. So a group led by Junichi Haruyama of the Japanese Aerospace Exploration Agency searched for these "skylights" in images taken by Japan's Kaguya spacecraft, which orbited the moon for almost two years before ending its mission in June.
Deep cave

The team found the first candidate skylight in a volcanic area on the moon's near side called Marius Hills. "This is the first time that anybody's actually identified a skylight in a possible lava tube" on the moon, van der Bogert, who helped analyse the feature, told New Scientist.

The hole measures 65 metres across, and based on images taken at a variety of sun angles, the the hole is thought to extend down at least 80 metres. It sits in the middle of a rille, suggesting the hole leads into a lava tube as wide as 370 metres across.

It is not clear exactly how the hole formed. A meteorite impact, moonquakes, or pressure created by gravitational tugs from the Earth could be to blame. Alternatively, part of the lava tube's ceiling could have been pulled off as lava in the tube drained away billions of years ago.
Radiation shield

Finding such an opening could be a boon for possible human exploration of the moon (see What NASA's return to the moon may look like).

Since the tubes may be hundreds of metres wide, they could provide plenty of space for an underground lunar outpost. The tubes' ceilings could protect astronauts from space radiation, meteoroid impacts and wild temperature fluctuations (see Can high-tech cavemen live on the moon?).

"I think it's really exciting," says Penny Boston of the New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology in Socorro. "Basalt is an extremely good material for radiation protection. It's free real estate ready to be exploited and modified for human use."
Blocked passage?

But even if astronauts were to rappel into the hole, they might not be able to travel far into the tube it appears to lead into. "I would bet a lot of money that there's a tube there, but I would not bet nearly so much that we could gain access to the tube," says Ray Hawke of the University of Hawaii at Manoa, who has also hunted for lunar lava tubes.

Rubble or solidified lava might block up the tube. "It could be closed up and inaccessible," Hawke told New Scientist.

NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO), which should be able to snap images of the area that are at least 10 times as sharp, could help reveal more about the hole. And more lava tube openings may be found.

The Kaguya team is still combing over images of other areas in search of additional skylights. And Hawke says a proposal is in the works to use LRO's main camera to snap oblique shots of the lunar surface. This could help reveal cave entrances that are not visible in a bird's-eye view.


www.newscientist.com...




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reply posted on 5-11-2009 @ 05:11 AM by Exuberant1


Originally posted by charlyv
This is one of the best threads on ATS. More solid evidence here than anywhere else, and it is all printed officially from source, for all to see. Absolutely awesome.


Thanks Charlyv!

That means alot to me.

I cannot speak for Easynow's extensive efforts, but I can tell you that I have spent several dozen hours researching and presenting this material - so your compliments are very much appreciated. I am sure Easynow and lunacognita will be glad to read them too.

Thanks again!



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reply posted on 5-11-2009 @ 05:42 AM by Exuberant1


Hey fellas,

How about some anomalous lunar images to go with all these strange transcripts... Let's start with Lunar orbiter 5 - specifically lo5-125-h2a.

Enjoy!


Let's start with this one:




And another strange looking place:



Check this next place out. I have added a red arrow pointing to a strange structure projecting over the lurain (lunar terrain):




Another strange looking place:




Could this area be a hangar?

I have pointed to a couple of the stranger anomalies using red arrows. One even looks like a classic saucer:



This area is abundant in rectilinear features.



Edit: Since it is from the same image, I suppose it makes sense that I should throw in Mikeingh's tower, so all the new guys have a chance to see this amazing example of possible artificial construction on the lunar surface:


(Red arrow to help people see what we are talking about.)

[edit on 5-11-2009 by Exuberant1]


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reply posted on 5-11-2009 @ 12:14 PM by JamesBondLovesLucy


The Apollo moon landings were all faked by NASA in the western deserts, NASA is only for public relations. Do you all not think that the govt and military would have their own secret space agency?

The Joint Chiefs, likely CIA director, and def. all American presidents since Truman have been aware of the grays.



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reply posted on 7-11-2009 @ 07:24 PM by pmexplorer


Originally posted by JamesBondLovesLucy
The Apollo moon landings were all faked by NASA in the western deserts, NASA is only for public relations. Do you all not think that the govt and military would have their own secret space agency?

The Joint Chiefs, likely CIA director, and def. all American presidents since Truman have been aware of the grays.




That's been done to death a gazillion times. If you have proof of your claims
of faked moon landings other than dodgy already debunked youtube videos then please post for us all to see and if not then please desist from taking the this thread off topic.



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reply posted on 8-11-2009 @ 12:30 AM by Exuberant1


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Don't ask people to prove such negatives.

Please provide us with what you think is the best evidence that man landed on the moon.



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reply posted on 8-11-2009 @ 02:09 PM by easynow


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thanks charlyv

good to hear you enjoy this thread and i'm sure anyone that has contributed this thread also appreciates your reply as much as i do








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thanks , great pics

here's a link to that Apollo 12 secret EVA thread. it was decided that because the subject is so complex , it would be difficult to properly present everything in video form. as far as i know, it's still under consideration.

www.abovetopsecret.com...



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reply posted on 8-11-2009 @ 06:10 PM by Exuberant1


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I'll check it out now Easy,

Hey as far as the video is concerned, have you ever considered making it in a how-to format?

I find that is one way of simplifying complex processes.

Imagine that...:


"How to conduct a secret EVA - a simple video guide"

By Lunacognita and Easynow

(Intro music. Mission Impossible theme)



Edit:


=

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reply posted on 12-11-2009 @ 01:17 PM by pmexplorer


Originally posted by Exuberant1
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Don't ask people to prove such negatives.

Please provide us with what you think is the best evidence that man landed on the moon.


Don't ask? Why not? Because he/she might get embarassed.

The burden of 'proof' is not on me as the Moon landings are considered fact for good reason and there are a multitude of sources and material available which illustrate exactly how it was achieved in great detail.



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reply posted on 21-11-2009 @ 09:05 PM by JamesBondLovesLucy


Originally posted by pmexplorer
Originally posted by JamesBondLovesLucy
The Apollo moon landings were all faked by NASA in the western deserts, NASA is only for public relations. Do you all not think that the govt and military would have their own secret space agency?

The Joint Chiefs, likely CIA director, and def. all American presidents since Truman have been aware of the grays.




That's been done to death a gazillion times. If you have proof of your claims
of faked moon landings other than dodgy already debunked youtube videos then please post for us all to see and if not then please desist from taking the this thread off topic.


I was new to the forum and at first had not found more appropriate threads. There are sites and books with proof that the Apollo landings were faked. Trust me.

The best proof is that the grays (demons) are on the moon, but I am unable to prove that as of now. Not for long I don't think.



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reply posted on 24-11-2009 @ 08:23 AM by Ray Amuro


Originally posted by JamesBondLovesLucy
Originally posted by pmexplorer
Originally posted by JamesBondLovesLucy
The Apollo moon landings were all faked by NASA in the western deserts, NASA is only for public relations. Do you all not think that the govt and military would have their own secret space agency?

The Joint Chiefs, likely CIA director, and def. all American presidents since Truman have been aware of the grays.




That's been done to death a gazillion times. If you have proof of your claims
of faked moon landings other than dodgy already debunked youtube videos then please post for us all to see and if not then please desist from taking the this thread off topic.


I was new to the forum and at first had not found more appropriate threads. There are sites and books with proof that the Apollo landings were faked. Trust me.

The best proof is that the grays (demons) are on the moon, but I am unable to prove that as of now. Not for long I don't think.


there is a picture where you can see a daemons BTW .



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reply posted on 24-11-2009 @ 08:28 AM by ~Lucidity


Anyone watch the TV show Defying Gravity? In it, when they landed on Venus, they had backup footage filmed in a studio at the ready to show the masses back on Earth in case something should go wrong (which it did). It was just interesting to see this is all I'm saying. Most days I still find it hard to believe that we had the technology back in the 60s to show live footage from the moon. I remember thinking it then as a kid and I still think it now. Just something that gnaws at me.



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