reply to post by easynow
OK, I couldn't do the video before I posted...let me listen and I'll give more opinions...(because I haven't run out of them yet...)
At least you're not "ignoring" people...that counts in your favour...for being an adult.
I'm sorry, but when I looked further at that YouTube 'video' I realized a) that I'd seen it before and b) the 'source'!!!
I always get a kick out of the nonsense posted by YT user "LC". AND the hilarious comments posted.
After hearing the audio, I am left wanting more...it is heavily edited down (funny how LC accuses NASA of such trickery!!! Irony).
Look...I would love, love, LOVE to know that there are ruins made by an intelligent species and visible on the Moon...or even an active LIVE species
(would have to be ET, not native to Luna, I would think...eh??) right now with artificial constructs. In fact, IF such things were discovered by A17,
I would think it would have been in NASA's best interests to make them public...for More Funding!!! Just think what they could have done with better
money, instead of being nickel and dimed to death by the Congress!!
I just truly do not think that 'LC' has found anything...again, it boils down to amateur 'sleuths' who really, really wish to find something..so
Case in point, in that 'video':
The beginning, with the "Umbra-Wash" on a photo of a large rock, and 'finding something' in the shadow? Nothing there but innuendo based on
(possibly) simply highlighting a flaw in the print, likely from a flaw in the original film's emulsion.
The comment "Something hit here!" isn't surprising -- in fact, it is co-incidental in a way, but that's how things like meteors work...it is pure
chance that a) you get to see one and b) it's close enough to happen were you are, same time and place. The Earth (and by logic, the Moon)
encounters meteors frequently...perhaps almost every day. We, here, have the atmosphere to protect us from falling rocks...mostly.
Then, at 3:30, 'LC' talks about "The Truth"...and shows what has already been discussed to death here on ATS, the pixelation and video
transmission 'noise' from what I think is a Clementine image, with the implication it is a "castle"...that is silly beyond belief, to think that
NASA would be dim-witted and amateurish enough to try to blot out something (if it existed at all) is such a clumsy way!
I got as far as "We were told that the Moon is covered in "craters" and "boulders"....and that Schmitt was the "only" ASTRO-geologist!
Firstly, are we to assume that 'LC' doesn't believe there are craters on the Moon?? AND, that there are no boulders?? Really? Cred = zero, in my
AS TO Schmitt...the astronauts were ALL trained in geology for the later missions, as they were focusing by then on Lunar origin theories, and how to
accurately determine them.
Shoemaker helped pioneer the field of astrogeology by founding the Astrogeology Research Program of the U.S. Geological Survey in 1961 at
Flagstaff, Arizona and he was its first director. He was prominently involved in the Lunar Ranger missions to the Moon, which showed that the Moon was
covered with a wide size range of impact craters. Shoemaker was also involved in the training of the American astronauts. He himself was a possible
candidate for an Apollo moon flight and was set to be the first geologist to walk on the Moon but was disqualified due to being diagnosed with
Addison's disease, a disorder of the adrenal gland. Shoemaker would train astronauts during field trips to Meteor Crater and Sunset Crater near
As I recall, Schmitt was the only astronaut to have a degree
in geology, which is partly why he was selected. And, I think it was his idea for
the others to get the crash course as well...
I've been looking at the "Lunar Surface journal", (Traverse to Staion One) --- won't link all of that here, since it would be redundant.
Couldn't find the source of the audio that 'LC' used (although there is a six-CD set for sale for about $85, maybe it's on there)...however, I
still take issue with the interpretation from the audio. Based on the "Journal" info, when you take into account that the "Whoop!" was uttered
while they were driving the LRV...I think it puts it into context...and the alleged "wink" is about as clear, to me, as a muddy river.....
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