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posted on Sep, 27 2009 @ 08:38 PM
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Originally posted by mikerussellus
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But since these things have been going on since May, I think the whole thing is a farce. Brown and Obama did something/signed something that pales the whole Iran issue.

Maybe it has something to do with the dollar.


Originally posted by DevilJin
We can both agree that China is the rising super power, right? That must go.

The oddest thing you know, I posted this in another thread, China now actually has more say in the IMF. Why the elites let that happen?




posted on Sep, 27 2009 @ 08:39 PM
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Originally posted by oozyism

Originally posted by mikerussellus
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Like the others have already stated, if Obama wants a war, he'll get one.

But since these things have been going on since May, I think the whole thing is a farce. Brown and Obama did something/signed something that pales the whole Iran issue.

Just my humble opinion.


But do you believe decision is made based on conditions? That Obama will take into consideration the deteriorating situation in Middle East, and one more spark could inflame the whole area putting in risk the influence America has in that region.


Going JUST by what is on the news? I don't know. If they posed a threat, then yes, blow them out of the water.

I have tried to stay true to my beliefs that Israel is our ally. The only one in that part of the world. Iran, not so much. They pose a threat? *boom*
I'm not a geopolitical expert, so I don't know what would happen in that region. But I can guess, and it's probably nothing. Especially if we just take out the nuke facilities.

As for guessing what Obama/Soros will do?

Easy answer.

Whatever is in their best self interests.



posted on Sep, 27 2009 @ 08:41 PM
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That is what I'm thinking. There have been talks about the dollar not being the world currency any longer.

They needed a strawman to change the focus. They chose Iran.



posted on Sep, 27 2009 @ 08:46 PM
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Going JUST by what is on the news? I don't know. If they posed a threat, then yes, blow them out of the water.

I have tried to stay true to my beliefs that Israel is our ally. The only one in that part of the world. Iran, not so much. They pose a threat? *boom*
I'm not a geopolitical expert, so I don't know what would happen in that region. But I can guess, and it's probably nothing. Especially if we just take out the nuke facilities.

As for guessing what Obama/Soros will do?

Easy answer.

Whatever is in their best self interests.


Iran is not an Allie because America doesn't want it to be an Allie. Think about Cuba as an example, why sanctions against Cuba?

America still lives in the colonial ages, I have reiterated this point many times and I have so because explains many American qualities which can't be explained other wise.

America tried to control the resources of Iran by implanting the Shah but failed just like Venzuala. Now both Iran and Venzuala is fighting against the negative qualities of America.



posted on Sep, 27 2009 @ 08:56 PM
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Star & Flag

I agree completely. It won't happen today, or tomorrow, but one day the world will wake up to Israel and America. Europe allowed Germany to conquer and occupy sovereign lands for a time before they realized what they had allowed to happen. We're on our way there again.



posted on Sep, 27 2009 @ 09:00 PM
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Originally posted by oozyism


Iran is not an Allie because America doesn't want it to be an Allie. Think about Cuba as an example, why sanctions against Cuba?

America still lives in the colonial ages, I have reiterated this point many times and I have so because explains many American qualities which can't be explained other wise.

America tried to control the resources of Iran by implanting the Shah but failed just like Venzuala. Now both Iran and Venzuala is fighting against the negative qualities of America.


I'd have to disagree. The shah? Wasn't that in 76, 77? Venezuela? I really don't think they've adopted socialism just to fight against america. I feel they have done this to promote their own self-interests. It's all about power and control.

Look (for example) at Obama. Just to be nice, I'd say he is an uber liberal. Their mantra is all about control/power. Not about the people, or smaller government.



posted on Sep, 27 2009 @ 09:04 PM
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I'd have to disagree. The shah? Wasn't that in 76, 77? Venezuela? I really don't think they've adopted socialism just to fight against america. I feel they have done this to promote their own self-interests. It's all about power and control. Look (for example) at Obama. Just to be nice, I'd say he is an uber liberal. Their mantra is all about control/power. Not about the people, or smaller government.

It was the same colonial policies which affected both countries, and both countries revolted against America.

US 'likely behind' Chavez coup



posted on Sep, 27 2009 @ 09:05 PM
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Originally posted by ZombieOctopus
Star & Flag

I agree completely. It won't happen today, or tomorrow, but one day the world will wake up to Israel and America. Europe allowed Germany to conquer and occupy sovereign lands for a time before they realized what they had allowed to happen. We're on our way there again.


You would be interested in this threat then


"FINAL SOLUTION" (open your eyes thread)



posted on Sep, 27 2009 @ 09:12 PM
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The oddest thing you know, I posted this in another thread, China now actually has more say in the IMF. Why the elites let that happen?


Because you have to allow things to play out as they do. You can only manipulate not control. The elite funded the Nazi regime but ONLY stopped it because Hitler got cocky and invaded Russia, which was natural. Had Hitler not invaded Russia, Nazi Germany would possible still exist. You have to understand politics is a lot like Chess.

China has always been a isolationist country that could have been powerful since the time of Rome, had they expanded. It is not too surprising how strong and powerful they are, especially giving Japan becoming the U.S.'s robot lap dog (Japan attacked China, you know) and also giving the real agendas of the Western world was found out through the Opium war, which was a part of the intent to subvert China as well as make a profit. Think about it - there is a dark reason why the U.S. has so much drugs in its veins and it is NOT because of low-level drug dealers. Subversion is the greatest tool in the toolbox of war.

With the rise of Communism popping up in that part of the world, Democracy was kept out. This is basically what the U.S. feared the most because Communism is the best opponent of Democracy.

Americans are led to believe that Communism is evil and does not work but it DOES work. Cuba would be richer had the U.S. not had sanctions on it.

But anyway, the elites know that you have play the cards you are given but that does not mean that the cards the other players have were not given by the elites. Think about it.



posted on Sep, 27 2009 @ 09:19 PM
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Well, using Carter as a source? Anyway. I'll grant you that America is hated. Despised. Reviled.

But that is still no reason/excuse for socialism. There is no justification for that. To claim that a country adopted socialism soley because they hate what America represents is wrong.



posted on Sep, 27 2009 @ 10:08 PM
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posted on Sep, 27 2009 @ 10:29 PM
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Originally posted by chalino
ILL BE THE ONE COWBOY EXECUTING ZIONIST ON THE STREETS........IRAN LIKE ANY OTHER COUNTRY HAS EVERY RIGHT TO DEVELOP NUCLEAR WEAPONS AS THEY WISH.........ISRAEL NEVER SIGNED ON TO THE NPFT. WHY AINT YOU TOYS COMPLAINING??? JEW LOVERS


When I disagreed with Obama, I was called a racist.
When I side with Israel instead of Iran, I'm a jew lover.

Iran does not have a right to arm themselves with nukes. They side with terrorists. On MY planet, that is considered a bad thing.

ps, lay off the redbull.



posted on Sep, 27 2009 @ 10:30 PM
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Israel could care less if starting a war with Iran destabilizes what the US has done in Iraq or Afghanistan.


They're spoiled rotten brats who throw temper tantrums if anyone even mentions the fact that there were millions who were killed in Hitler's war who weren't Jews.

It's estimated they have over 150 nukes but they feel justified in bombing anyone else who wants any kind of weapon to defend themselves.
At this point it looks like the brats want to bomb anyone else who just wants to suck air.


S&F



posted on Sep, 27 2009 @ 10:43 PM
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If you look at it from a historical perspective, most of Israel's neighbors DO want to wipe them out.

If Utah were an enemy of Nevada, Wyoming, Colorado I'd be concerned over Utah's safety as well.

On one hand people are saying let Iran do what they want, they are a sovereign nation.
Fine. Let Israel have at least the same bloody rights as Iran. And let them maintain their rights to defend against aggression from anywhere.



posted on Sep, 27 2009 @ 11:09 PM
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Some of you probably won't like this answer but I'll tell you exactly why America (and to some extent) the world will not go against the Jews.
God's word says that once they are back in the lands of their fore-fathers, nothing was going to get them out again.
Many of you might remember what happened when Egypt attacked. God's people are going to keep their land until the very end. If the world doesn't take care of Iran the Hebrews will.

This is prophecy and every thinking person will have to admit that the bible has an excellent track record when it comes to prophecy.

I also must mention that the day the U.S. convinced Israel to give up some land to the Palestinians was the day a small tropical storm started to grow in the ocean. The name of that storm? Katrina.

I believe that the job of the U.S. is to protect Israel. You can disagree with me if you wish, you can hate me, flame me or whatever but I believe that the day the U.S. turns it's back on Israel completely is the day America falls.



posted on Sep, 27 2009 @ 11:16 PM
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If I was Utah and Nevada, Wyoming, and Colorado all hated me, then I'd probably have to take a good long look at myself and ask why is it that I'm so despised and figure I might be an ass.



posted on Sep, 28 2009 @ 12:15 AM
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Most sane people do not want Israel attacking Iran. Iran itself does not pose a serious threat to Israel's existence.

However, get Israel to attack Iran and there will be a serious threat to Israel's existence - and the West to a certain degree. Perhaps this is the agenda being pushed by TPTB? They have already created much tension between Islam and Christianity and Islam and Judaism. All they need is the right "spark" to begin the plummet of the world into its third and FINAL World War.

Could it be that TPTB are urging Israel to attack by exaggerating the capabilities of Iran, provoking Iran by saying an attack by Israel is imminent and spreading hate and distrust about both nations among populations world wide?



posted on Sep, 28 2009 @ 12:26 AM
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they know now people learnt from their past actions...

People now know that

1. There were no WMD in Iraq
2. There was no link between Iraq and Al Qaeda
3. There were no Nukes in Iraq

Ans still USA invaded Iraq, Children died, American soldiers died, all in vain

Now Iran knew from the beginning that the Iraq invasion was only the beginning and that they were the next target...just have a look at the locations of American Bases in the Mid-East, guess what, they all sorround Iran u have them in the border lines of Saudi Arabia, Afganhistan and Iraq

War crimes have been commited but the worst thing is that Americans are wonderful and colourful people which now are being hated through out the world.

I think the only redemtion is a trial for the bush administration



posted on Sep, 28 2009 @ 12:44 AM
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Originally posted by sdcigarpig

All those in the middle east agree, no one in the middle east needs to be armed with Nuclear weapons, cause all it will take it one country having such and then we will have a new arms race going on.


Umm - Israel has about 200 nukes. After they had Kennedy assassinated they were able to secure the right to buy and create nukes - among many other things, Kennedy was totally against a nuclear Israel.

I would like to see every country armed with nukes - that would it a hell of a lot harder for the US to waltz in and invade some place.

I would also like to see the Russians and Chinese park a bunch of ships off the coast of Iran, ready to shoot down any Israeli planes they see - they could just tell Tehran to take credit for it



posted on Sep, 28 2009 @ 12:55 AM
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Originally posted by Dark Ghost
Could it be that TPTB are urging Israel to attack by exaggerating the capabilities of Iran, provoking Iran by saying an attack by Israel is imminent and spreading hate and distrust about both nations among populations world wide?


"Could it be .. " ? Lol and rofl - one of three; you're being ironic, you're being rhetorical, you're as ignorant as fungus.

Of course the US is trying to create a scenario where ISrael can gain international support to pre-emptively strike Iran. They must try and make Iran feel threatened and alone - that pressure can then be used to effect regime change in Iran. If not - then the military option can be freely exercised by Israel.

The problem is that more and more people hate Israel, and the US. More and more people are listening to Ahmadinejad - and realizing that he is peaceful, intelligent and charismatic - he is twice the leader Obama is, and his country is modern and beautiful.

I do hope that a war against Iran cannot be sold once again to the ignorant US citizens - surely they learned something regarding the lies used to create the atrocity of Iraq?





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