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reply posted on 27-9-2009 @ 08:38 PM by Jazzyguy
Originally posted by mikerussellus
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post by oozyism


But since these things have been going on since May, I think the whole thing is a farce. Brown and Obama did something/signed something that pales the whole Iran issue.

Maybe it has something to do with the dollar.

Originally posted by DevilJin
We can both agree that China is the rising super power, right? That must go.

The oddest thing you know, I posted this in another thread, China now actually has more say in the IMF. Why the elites let that happen?


reply posted on 27-9-2009 @ 08:39 PM by mikerussellus
Originally posted by oozyism
Originally posted by mikerussellus
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Like the others have already stated, if Obama wants a war, he'll get one.

But since these things have been going on since May, I think the whole thing is a farce. Brown and Obama did something/signed something that pales the whole Iran issue.

Just my humble opinion.


But do you believe decision is made based on conditions? That Obama will take into consideration the deteriorating situation in Middle East, and one more spark could inflame the whole area putting in risk the influence America has in that region.


Going JUST by what is on the news? I don't know. If they posed a threat, then yes, blow them out of the water.

I have tried to stay true to my beliefs that Israel is our ally. The only one in that part of the world. Iran, not so much. They pose a threat? *boom*
I'm not a geopolitical expert, so I don't know what would happen in that region. But I can guess, and it's probably nothing. Especially if we just take out the nuke facilities.

As for guessing what Obama/Soros will do?

Easy answer.

Whatever is in their best self interests.


reply posted on 27-9-2009 @ 08:41 PM by mikerussellus
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That is what I'm thinking. There have been talks about the dollar not being the world currency any longer.

They needed a strawman to change the focus. They chose Iran.



reply posted on 27-9-2009 @ 08:46 PM by oozyism
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Going JUST by what is on the news? I don't know. If they posed a threat, then yes, blow them out of the water.

I have tried to stay true to my beliefs that Israel is our ally. The only one in that part of the world. Iran, not so much. They pose a threat? *boom*
I'm not a geopolitical expert, so I don't know what would happen in that region. But I can guess, and it's probably nothing. Especially if we just take out the nuke facilities.

As for guessing what Obama/Soros will do?

Easy answer.

Whatever is in their best self interests.


Iran is not an Allie because America doesn't want it to be an Allie. Think about Cuba as an example, why sanctions against Cuba?

America still lives in the colonial ages, I have reiterated this point many times and I have so because explains many American qualities which can't be explained other wise.

America tried to control the resources of Iran by implanting the Shah but failed just like Venzuala. Now both Iran and Venzuala is fighting against the negative qualities of America.


reply posted on 27-9-2009 @ 09:04 PM by oozyism
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I'd have to disagree. The shah? Wasn't that in 76, 77? Venezuela? I really don't think they've adopted socialism just to fight against america. I feel they have done this to promote their own self-interests. It's all about power and control. Look (for example) at Obama. Just to be nice, I'd say he is an uber liberal. Their mantra is all about control/power. Not about the people, or smaller government.

It was the same colonial policies which affected both countries, and both countries revolted against America.

US 'likely behind' Chavez coup


reply posted on 27-9-2009 @ 09:12 PM by DevilJin

The oddest thing you know, I posted this in another thread, China now actually has more say in the IMF. Why the elites let that happen?


Because you have to allow things to play out as they do. You can only manipulate not control. The elite funded the Nazi regime but ONLY stopped it because Hitler got cocky and invaded Russia, which was natural. Had Hitler not invaded Russia, Nazi Germany would possible still exist. You have to understand politics is a lot like Chess.

China has always been a isolationist country that could have been powerful since the time of Rome, had they expanded. It is not too surprising how strong and powerful they are, especially giving Japan becoming the U.S.'s robot lap dog (Japan attacked China, you know) and also giving the real agendas of the Western world was found out through the Opium war, which was a part of the intent to subvert China as well as make a profit. Think about it - there is a dark reason why the U.S. has so much drugs in its veins and it is NOT because of low-level drug dealers. Subversion is the greatest tool in the toolbox of war.

With the rise of Communism popping up in that part of the world, Democracy was kept out. This is basically what the U.S. feared the most because Communism is the best opponent of Democracy.

Americans are led to believe that Communism is evil and does not work but it DOES work. Cuba would be richer had the U.S. not had sanctions on it.

But anyway, the elites know that you have play the cards you are given but that does not mean that the cards the other players have were not given by the elites. Think about it.


reply posted on 27-9-2009 @ 09:19 PM by mikerussellus
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Well, using Carter as a source? Anyway. I'll grant you that America is hated. Despised. Reviled.

But that is still no reason/excuse for socialism. There is no justification for that. To claim that a country adopted socialism soley because they hate what America represents is wrong.


reply posted on 27-9-2009 @ 10:43 PM by mikerussellus
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If you look at it from a historical perspective, most of Israel's neighbors DO want to wipe them out.

If Utah were an enemy of Nevada, Wyoming, Colorado I'd be concerned over Utah's safety as well.

On one hand people are saying let Iran do what they want, they are a sovereign nation.
Fine. Let Israel have at least the same bloody rights as Iran. And let them maintain their rights to defend against aggression from anywhere.


reply posted on 27-9-2009 @ 11:16 PM by Sundancer
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If I was Utah and Nevada, Wyoming, and Colorado all hated me, then I'd probably have to take a good long look at myself and ask why is it that I'm so despised and figure I might be an ass.
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