Originally posted by lucentenigma
So?

I don't believe that Jesus was the son of god either, does that make me the anti-christ?

Probably not the anti-christ but a heathen who should be burned up in a fiery grave right?

Like cuhail said masons believe in a higher power, a grand designer or architect.

It could be Jesus, Jesus' dad, Allah, Buddha, doesn't matter.

[edit on 27-9-2009 by lucentenigma]

Originally posted by jokei
I'm an Atheist here and I'm not a mason, but the original post I find be an ill-informed troll.

Now you may question what I'm doing even posting in this thread? I'm finding it really tiresome seeing this amount of junk on ATS.

I've read up on Free masonry and regardless of the "Belief in a supreme being" it seems you can still be a christian/buddhist/whatever... now that sounds like a fairly tolerant organisation, so the OP doesn't ring true. Also, so what if some people deny jesus was the son of god? It's their belief, not yours and to post reactionary (troll) threads doesn't seem at all tolerant or compassionate, more like a cheap attempt to garner S&Fs and hammer home an ill-thought out argument... these tend to be the worst sort of threads on here, usually constituting of a knee-jerk, single-paragraphed rant - you can then compare that to other threads where people have obviously researched and put thought into constructing their arguments, these seem to run for at least a few paragraphs and have links to references, as opposed to anecdotal "he said/she said" quotes...

As for the title of this post, it just begs the question "So what?" and also gives the thread a somewhat sensationalist/tabloid bent. As for the "Gang-posting" statement, that really is a weak and flawed argument, that seems to have been invited by the headline - what do you expect when ATS is known to have Masonic members???

AND!!! I restate it here I am not a Mason, but it seems from posts I've read, that they're able to make coherent arguments and back them up with decent research, yet using the bible as evidence is a little shaky considering the contention about who wrote it, when and the various interpretations of it over the numerous years.

Originally posted by aorAki


This doesn't make me a bad person does it?

Ex-33 degree Mason Jim Shaw says; "The Blue Lodge Mason is taught that the "G" in the basic Masonic symbol represents God. Later on, he is told that it represents "deity". Later still, he is told that it represents "geometry". In reality, this letter represents the "generative principle," the Sun-god and, thus, the worshipped phallus, the male "generative principle..." In its position (along with the square and compass) on the east wall over the chair (throne) of the Worshipful Master, it is the representation of the Sun, thus of the Sun-god, Osiris. Its earthly meaning, then, is of the sacred phallus; its cosmic meaning is of the Sun, worshipped since antiquity by pagans while facing the East. Reference, book: The Deadly Deception", page 144

Originally posted by kingswillquiver

One cannot believe in the Commandments of God and belong to Freemasonry.

Originally posted by kingswillquiver

The IDEA of God is based on that Holy Book, is it not?

Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus

Originally posted by kingswillquiver

The IDEA of God is based on that Holy Book, is it not?

The idea of God is older then any book. Indeed, the idea of God is arguably the oldest idea in the universe.

Originally posted by kingswillquiver
Then why do you use a Holy Book?

Originally posted by kingswillquiver


If your believe in God, you believe in the 10 Commandments, specifically
#3

3 Do not have any other gods before me.