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reply posted on 24-10-2009 @ 04:44 PM by boaby_phet
reply to post by Kurokage



I also had the joy of seeing a vulcan flypast this year (at blackpool air show)

i doubt it was a vulcan he saw... as their hella loud ... i took a video earlier this year (and it flys more or less over my head). also the vulcan only has 1 delta wing, and no wings near the front.

i also doubt it was a typhoon, as again, their REALLY loud ... i have seen them practicing over preston and blackpool many many times.... sometimes right over where i used to work! ... (on the outskirts of preston, under the flightpath into warton..about 3 -4 miles away from warton)

heres a vulcan video ....



the strangest thing about this IS the lack of sound coming from the large craft ... if we ignore the no noise, we are looking for a craft which not only has a delta wing, but front canard wings as well! ... not only that, but its massive!

and that limits it to a few craft, one being concordski!, one being that top secret US nuke plane, and the other.... well, if its anything else i would have to say something secret.

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ive been doing some internet searching, for a craft which has both delta wing and canard.... and ive came accross this little gem... now, following on from the lateral thinker and the idea that things might have looked out of perspective ....



not only does it have a canard and delta wing, but it also has a proppellor!

it does not explain what could have been in front of it. but it does cover 3 of the main aspects of this sighting.



[edit on 24-10-2009 by boaby_phet]


reply posted on 25-10-2009 @ 07:30 PM by _Del_
reply to post by waynos




Splendid bit of reporting, that.



reply posted on 10-12-2009 @ 04:22 PM by Zaphod58
reply to post by randel


All old planes are grounded? What? If that were the case the only thing the USAF would be flying are a few C-130s, a handful of C-17s, and F-22s.


reply posted on 11-12-2009 @ 04:10 PM by randel
reply to post by Zaphod58



the only english planes that look like that are the Vulcan and Concorde, the first if from the 60s and the second is a liner and easy to recognize.

The only reason the US has the bombers is the same reason they have Aircraft carriers ... and i don't know the reason. The B2 can be replaced by the tomahawk and the carriers by allies.

It might just be a new rocket launched glider. It actually makes sense ...



reply posted on 11-12-2009 @ 05:05 PM by Zaphod58
reply to post by randel


So we can replace the very stealthy B-2 that can hit targets with virtual impunity, with the non-stealthy Tomahawk? Really? Here`s a little question for you. How many Tomahawks had to be sent against targets in Desert Storm to ensure they hit? How many F-117s against their targets? How many Tomahawks get shot down? How many B-2s have been shot down?

The US has bombers for the same reason they have carriers. To project power, and BOMB targets (hence the BOMBER name).


reply posted on 11-12-2009 @ 05:56 PM by randel
reply to post by Zaphod58



actually not many tomahawks were shot down, I would bet under 10 and if they missed is because programmers are lazy. A new generation bomber has to usually fly all the way from the US to hit a target. And they also sometimes miss... Like when the China embassy was hit. You can't consider the Gulf war a real war ... if we compare technology it's like fighting ants.

Carpet bombing should become obsolete soon... The radar footprint of the JSF is so small they could do in Iraq what the B2 did, yet the JSF can be deployed from an aircraft carrier.


reply posted on 11-12-2009 @ 06:21 PM by Zaphod58
reply to post by randel


And once a Tomahawk is launched, that`s it. You can`t retarget, or reroute it if necessary.
As for the "F-35/B-2" argument there`s no comparison. A single B-2 can carry something like 84 500 lb bombs. For an F-35 to carry even mid double digit weapons, they would have to be carried externally, which kills the stealth factor.


reply posted on 11-12-2009 @ 07:00 PM by MrGrey1701
Back to the original point of this thread I would like to offer something of a corroboration to your sighting - I live in the Worcestershire area, Kidderminster to be exact and I recall an incident which happened in the same time frame that had me stumped.

My family and I were driving to a friend`s house in the early evening - still early enough to be light so I`m guessing around 5:30 to 6:00 pm. My girlfriend and I spotted an aircraft flying in a north westerly direction, very slowly and quite low over Kidderminster. As it was unusually warm weather we were in the car with the windows open, yet we did not hear any sound - although from the close vicinity and low altitude we would have surely expected to hear something.

It was a very passing glimpse as the car was traveling along a busy road and we lost sight of the aircraft behind houses and buildings - so I had very little time to identify it. All I can say for definite is that it appeared to be a dark gray in colour and my first immediate thought was that it was a Vulcan due to it's size and the apparent delta wing, but soon dismissed it as I had noticed the front stubby wings and then supposed it had to be a B1 bomber with it's wings swept back - it's identity just didn't fit anything else I know of.



Having been to a few airshows in the past I am well aware of how loud these things are - especially at the low altitude we witnessed, so I still find it baffling why we didn't hear anything at all in the car, nor did our friends - over who`s house it's flightpath would have taken it.


reply posted on 12-12-2009 @ 09:37 AM by BLV12
reply to post by VitalOverdose



Actually that only has 2 wings.
The two at the front of the aircraft are actually canards, technically speaking.

I'm sure some of the aero-geeks around here will be able to explain the differences, if there are any.


reply posted on 13-12-2009 @ 03:15 AM by firepilot
Originally posted by Zaphod58
reply to
post by randel


And once a Tomahawk is launched, that`s it. You can`t retarget, or reroute it if necessary.
As for the "F-35/B-2" argument there`s no comparison. A single B-2 can carry something like 84 500 lb bombs. For an F-35 to carry even mid double digit weapons, they would have to be carried externally, which kills the stealth factor.


not entirely correct. Tactical Tomahawk can be reprogrammed in flight.
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