Originally posted by dragonridr
reply to post by MightyAl
Oh were to begin you misunderstood most of it.First an antigens are what fights viruses what your reading is the creation of a vaccine.
First, I did state that the patent is for the swine flu vaccine. I apologize if I wasn't very clear in my post. When we look at the date, and then at
the type of antigens used, it shows that they already knew about it even before the first outbreak in Mexico. How interesting that they use the
antigens from humans, birds, pigs and other animals.
Yes, they had been studying the swine flu virus since 1998 when it was "found" in a bunch of swines back then in Wisconsin containing human, avian
and pig strains. How did those pigs get it? And how come today there is no pig to be found with the so called "novel" virus? Was the 1998 virus
developed into today's virus in a lab? Or did it happen naturally?
According to an article
in PLoS ONE:
Our data do not reject the theory of the pig as an intermediate host for AIVs, but they suggest that AIVs need to undergo genetic changes to
establish full replication potential in pigs.
So it's very difficult for that to occur so simply, and then to pass on to humans.
Also how come today's virus unlike any others before is so similar to the 1918 virus? Does evolution also go backwards?
As the following journal article
from PubMed states:
We observed that the 2009 viral sequences are evolutionarily widely different form the past few years' sequences. Rather, the 2009 sequences are
evolutionarily more similar to the most ancient sequence reported in the NCBI Influenza Virus Resource Database collected in 1918. Analysis of
evolutionary rates also supports the view that all the genes in the pandemic strain of 2009 except NA and M genes are derived from triple reassorted
Next just because something was first identified in say Asia doesn't mean thats the only place its found. Asian flu quite regularly makes it way to
the united states along with European strains so your theory that someone had to take these from different locations is silly!
See the PLoS ONE quote above.
PS if this was a BIO weapon its about the saddest ever since 99% of the people that get it will catch a cold then get over it.Weapons grade anthrax
kills over 80% swine flew 1% wow thats just bad bio engineering.
Yeah, it is very sad indeed thus far. Most people recovered with no problems! Let's just hope that those who take the swine flu vaccine will recover
in a similar manner to those who took Tamiflu. It is always the vaccine that kills. The worst would be if the bird infected a human directly.
While people denounce Tamiflu, that is really not necessary. All medicine has side effects. My wife would have taken it, and as I mentioned, she's a
What we need to worry about is the actual swine flu vaccine that is being pushed on the people. It is just not safe.
Don't forget, it is not just a theory that this brings in the $$$$ to the Big Pharma and their investors such as Donald Rumsfeld with or without
being a bio-weapon. You need a man-made pandemic and many lies for that to occur, starting with the deaths in Mexico.
[edit on 29-9-2009 by MightyAl]