Iran secret facility is a media PSYOPS because the facility is not even secret

english.aljazeera.net...

See how the media plays you and then everyone jumps on the bandwagon.

This is all a game to get everyone to demonize the Iranians, preparing peoples minds for a possible conflict. If there is war, well shucks they deserve it for lying but they didn't lie.

Do you see now? Are you eyes open?



[edit on 27-9-2009 by warrenb]

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The day this was all announced, they kept mentioning on the news that US intelligence had already known about this for a year or so but was just watching and waiting. The thing was that the US was mad that they had to call them on it before they admitted it. They finally asked and Iran said yes and then...now all the news keeps telling us over and over again that we just found out.

Something just doesn't sound right to me.

I am suddenly having flashbacks of Bush saying "They will not let our inspectors into Iraq." on the left side of the tv while on the right side were the inspectors in Iraq, inspecting things in Iraq.

I saw his interview the other night. Quite compelling. He explains how the media has blown his 'questions', not views, about the holocaust way out of proportion also. He sounded sincere but as the media is now trying to do; Is it all a play on global media propraganda on his part?
As far as the second facility goes, Has the IAEA confirmed this?
And no, I don't think that Iran has to report to the US on what they're doing. That's why there is the IAEA.

Actually, they only informed the IAEA about it in a letter last week. I think the rules are that they have to be informed 6 months prior to any nuclear material being on the site. Iran claims they're 18 months out.

The only reason that the IAEA was informed, IMO, is that Iran caught wind that others had gathered intelligence on the site, and keeping it a secret was no longer an option. While the U.S. intelligence may have known about it all along, the truth is, they were trying to keep it a secret.

So here we have Iran building a secret enrichment facility, deep underground, that wouldn't be able to produce enough material for using in a reactor, yet just enough to create a bomb every year.

If they want to be open, like they claim, and use nuclear technology for peaceful purposes, then why go to such trouble keeping it hidden, and only informing the IAEA about it a week before the G-20, and only after they realized they've been found out?
Why wait until the site is nearly built? Why not just be forthcoming all along? That doesn't sound very open to me. This doesn't help their case any, and only enforces the belief, by many, that the facility is being built for "military" purposes.

Gates calls Iran nuclear facility illegal, probably for non-peaceful use


Just yesterday, a senior Iranian official said the enrichment plant will be operational soon, and “will blind the eyes of the enemies,”
Iran: Nuclear plant ‘will blind … the enemies’


Now, I'm not saying there isn't a double standard, in that Israel won't show their facilities either, and we have like 2,600 nuclear devices here in the U.S., which is another story altogether, but the evidence keeps adding up that Iran really wants to become a nuclear "superpower" as well.

At a time in our existence when everyone should really be trying to eliminate such horrific devices, the thought of another arms race being sparked in the middle east is frightening, and sad, because someday one is going to be used, triggering the proverbial "hell on earth".

reply to post by geo1066

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Here's the proof that the IAEA should have known about it in 2008, since it was in the MSM

April 2008

www.chinapost.com.tw...

So we can't say that nobody knew about the new facility.



[edit on 27-9-2009 by warrenb]

Its Bush not sounding right. He never did, even once.

But the wheels he set in motion are still in motion.

[edit on 27-9-2009 by Copernicus]

The "We've just uncovered a new secret underground facility in Iran" hype has been constant. I was surprised when I heard Obama and others saying this since that facility had already been announced. It's very clear that there is nothing Iran can really say or do that will stop the upcoming war.

New propaganda that's pro-war with Iran has played non-stop since Bibi made his secret trip to Russia. I was watching closely to see what the Russian Prez would say afterwards. We have our answer. Apparently the Russians are assured of their cut from the Iranian pie.

Yes. After three years of Israeli threats the ducks seem to be all lined up. I would be surprised if something didn't go down before the end of this year.

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Iran tells IAEA it is building 2nd enrichment plant



While it seems they may have mentioned "opening a new facility", they still kept it totally hidden, and didn't even announce its existence until last week.

It seems that the best thing to do would be to allow full inspections of any and all nuclear facilities.

We've had quite a lot of inspections in Iran so far (as we did in Iraq) and have gotten pretty clear answers there.

So how's the inspections in Israel going?

Whoops. Asking Israel to do the same is "anti-semitic" apparently.

Yep. Things are going to blow up alright.

[edit on 27-9-2009 by Whatthehell?]

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speaking of Israel's facilities
here's a map for everyone to enjoy

www.atomicarchive.com...

Did you miss the part of my first post where I said:



The eyeroll there seems to indicate your inability to understand what I was actually saying. I also believe that the IAEA should have access to any and all nuclear facilities. No need to attempt twisting my perspective on the matter into some "pro-Israel" point of view, because I basically agree, and it doesn't seem right either