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Originally posted by silent thunder
Originally posted by zorgon
One thing that is really different in this economy that makes a HUGE difference in getting jobs...
Things are so bad right now here's how it goes. Burger King gets one cash register opening and they put up an online ad. They get 4,652 applications in their email "inbox," all of which they delete. They get 549 paper applications, 90% of which they randomly toss in the trash. They then go through the 50 or so remaining paper-and-stamp apps and either choose the people with the Ivy League educations to come in for a face-to-face, or they simply call up their cousin and ask if his daughter is still looking for a job because one just opened up.
Originally posted by grayhawkz1
I fall in that age bracket and I am quite disgusted with the tone projected at that age group. Firstly I live in a town that is sprawled out across a long beach and is disconnected by one main highway. This makes it impossible to bike ride to work or simpler means, unless of course if you want to risk getting hit on the highway. In order to get a job I must have a car. In order to have a car I must afford insurance. If I want to get a loan on a car I have to get full coverage which is rediculously priced. So what you see is a conundrum on how to get a job.
However, I speak for some of my age group when I say that most of us detest and despise the system laid out for us. Most people accept the world they are brought into but it seems many of this age group are intelligent enough to look beyond the mechanical system. The societal organism as a whole doesnt need young men to do hard work for incredibly cheap pay, they found an even cheaper substitute.
I reached a point, which I knew I would inevitibly reach, where I wish to no longer participate in the societal organism. The government acts as a parental figure in which, If living under their "house", one must follow their rules in order to sustain oneself. This is rediculous, the last thing they want you to be able to do is self subsistence. Well in my attempt of defeating the societal organism, I am learning to provide for myself in ways completely avoiding the societal organism.
Agreeing with the person that said we should just hijack our own land and create our own society, well this is bound to happen whether it stays amongst the age bracket or effects all living in the system.
My ancestors had no problem living in harmony with nature and I intend to do the same. I do not need 4 years of college to end up grinding my life away for money. I will enjoy my life under simpler means, and all the while, spiritually advancing my self and hopefully more will join, and soon enough we can take a hold of our own destiny as a species and take back what is rightfully ours, the right to live happily and freely off the land that NO ONE owns, and no one has the right to say how and in what way I can choose to live.
I look at the system and see a barbaric system of ownership, and just like the natives, I cannot comprehend why the white men fence in the land, its not their's to say "MINE." It is this idea of ownership that is the foundation of our system, and it's flawed to say the least. The evolution of man has been put on hold for greedy people. So next time you think to yourself, "man I need a job," think about how you could live happily without one.
A true utopia is one without money and greed and one in which everyone provides for themselves with enough to give back to community. Many anti-capitalist rave about kicking the monetary system and all sorts of things, but not many actually envision the next system without money. Community is important but not if it perpetuates self enslavement, community, or a new societal organism, must be worked from the ground up. Starting with all learning to provide for themselves, and then to provide for the community.
[edit on 27-9-2009 by grayhawkz1]
[edit on 27-9-2009 by grayhawkz1]
Originally posted by THX-1138
I am hoping this situation leads to a lot of suicides -- population decrease.
Give it some time and they'll get arrested. That will take them off the streets.
Or we have Obama's draft coming up. That will take a lot of these slacker kids and turn them into responsible adults, or get rid of them, one way or the other.
Machines can save labor, but only if they go idle when we possess enough of what they can produce. In other words, the machinery offers us an opportunity to work less, an opportunity that as a society we have chosen not to take. Instead, we have allowed the owners of those machines to define their purpose: not reduction of labor, but “higher productivity”—and with it the imperative to consume virtually everything that the machinery can possibly produce.
services: 79.2% (2008 est.)
Originally posted by YarlanZey
reply to post by grayhawkz1
Don't they have busses there? I used to have to take two busses to work before I could afford a car.
Originally posted by fordrew
German history books will not say whether they started WWII and lost.
Originally posted by The Vagabond
reply to post by geo1066
You either live in a very unusual area or have had the luxury of being sheltered enough to believe those few bits of media garbage you've got there.
Now 'Vagabond', I do consider where I live to be 'unusual'. I love living here and the area has alot to offer but I don't quite understand the 'luxury of being sheltered' part. Let me give you abit of my background-
I'm 49 yrs. old and although I was raised as an 'Air Force' brat, Pops retired when I was 16 and also that was when my parents got a divorce. Us kids(six of us) lived with our mother who had to go to a JC to get an associates in medical records to support us. I also got my first job at 16 pushing a broom and stocking shelves at 'Longs Drug Store' and have work ever since. I only graduated HS but when I turned 20, I was then working on a road crew laying asphalt in San Antonio, Tx in the middle of July and decided I needed to do something better with my life.
So I went to the want ads to see what was needed. Being that I like to work with my hands I saw the need for electical, plumbing and HVAC helpers. Well I figured I needed to learn a trade...Hmmm, what should it be.. well with HVAC I would learn electrical and plumbing but niether of them would be able to do HVAC so I went to a 4night/week for 6 months tech school while working as a PT sales rep for a tobacco company which was a fancy title for somebody that sets up the cigarette racks in the stores. After finishing tech school, I got into the Apt. maintenece buisness, became a supervisor and did that for about 9-10 yrs. Got married and the wife didn't like my line of work so back to the ads. There was an ad for a 'on the job training' position being a 'Dental equipment Technician'. I went to apply and this being an entry level position, I was considered over qualified. I pleaded for the position stating that I wanted a career change and got that job. Got divorced, gave my ex everything including my clothes and the whole state of Oklahoma and moved down here to New Mexico. Pretty desolete area compared to all the other areas that I lived in. No apt. complexes and not that many dentist so now what? Construction or public services(ie-resterants, etc.) is all that's around so I went to work as a 'nail bagger'. Worked for others for a couple of years and got my own 'contractors licence' and have been self employed ever since(about 15 yrs. now) So 'sheltered life'? I don't understand.
For the alot of the other posters that won't take a job that they think is beneath them. How do you think these CEOs got started? To get to the top of the ladder you got to start on the first rung.
For the posters that say the job isn't satisfying enough to have. Grin and bear it till what you want comes along. It will. I personally don't live to work, I work to live. And by living I mean I enjoy boating, fishing, hiking, going to community events and just being active all of which do require the 'almighty dollar' so off to work I go.
For the 'lets get back to nature' posters. Fine and dandy. More power to ya and I hope you achieve your goals. This is not going to happen over night. So meanwhile what are you going to do?
For the ones that have all the applications in with no response. As an Employer, let me give you some tips that may help-
Apply for a job in the morning preferably when work starts. It shows that if your there first in the morning, you're more likely to show up on time. plus I really don't have the time to talk to you once my day has started.
Ask questions just don't answer them. Show that you're interested and can think for yourself.
Check back often, it shows interest.
Just remember, you may not like what you're doing now but it can open doors for you later on. Look for them. Stay Positive. Life is easy, don't make it hard!
Anything is better than nothing.