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Originally posted by A52FWY
When I was in the age group being discussed I worked at an amusement park for buck an hour. I asked isn't that below minimum wage and they said not for agricultural workers. Times were rough and it was a job. Minimum wage was $2. This was a while going to college job. I also worked at a factory, but the machines there required skill to master, but the pay was better. After college I had to look for work and got in at a place, worked for nothing, and got a book keeping job and then eventually ran the finances with much better pay. But I really worked hard achieving the pay level. People skills are important to learn.
Part of the problem is minimum wage, it's going to create unemployment. If you have no work skills you may not be worth $7.25 an hour. Look at it from a market point of view. Employers are going to hire higher skilled labor first, and there is a surplus of that for the moment. There are economic reasons why the minimum wage creates unemployment for unskilled labor.
I don't think capitalism is the villain some make it out to be. No one is forcing products down your throat. It is voluntary. You can go through life very modestly and save money for a rainy day, that is if the value of it isn't inflated away. You can be very green in your choices and the market will respond.
I am starting to look at the FED as causing a lot of the boom and bust that affects us all. Congress and the President think it's a good idea to keep interest rates down. What happens, housing prices skyrocket to unprecedented levels. Rents climb to match higher housing prices. Poor people buy homes with inflated values that they can't afford because Congress has encouraged no down payment mortgages. This all collapses as unsustainable. What do they do? They make it worse by bailing out failed companies and banks. Who is going to pay for all this? The people who would hire people, they then hire less people to pay the higher taxes now required. Every policy they try makes it worse. Individuals make up the free market, and government policy is messing it up.
And if you want to implement socialism here, you're wasting your time.
Originally posted by whistler16
reply to post by whistler16
I dont wnat anyone to get the impression that I think everyone without a job is lazy etc. I obviously know that is not always the case. But yes, I worked for 5 years for a job that I absolutely hated, same crap everyday, my boss was the biggest dick on the planet, but I kept my mouth shut and did what I was told, because I knew that I was just paying my dues.
there is a lot of information you can learn even at the most menial jobs.
you stock boxes at walmart-
you come in, put boxes on shelves day after day. is that all you are doing while you are at work? How do they handle those boxes in regards to how they are inventoried, is there a better way to do it? How can the boxes be arranged in the warehouse for more efficient movement? What are your direct supervisors responsibilities, can you social engineer enough information out of them so that you can plead your case to the higher ups that you should have his jobs because you can do it much better?
Originally posted by whistler16
reply to post by traphouse
Do you post on any of the poker forums? I agree with the poker thing, but it takes a special breed to grind it out for a living
Originally posted by threekings
I think we may be missing additional joblessness by not accounting for how many people who are walking into retirement and taking the position they had in the company with them.
Originally posted by zorgon
One thing that is really different in this economy that makes a HUGE difference in getting jobs...
Originally posted by thaknobodi
No one i'm friends with is unemployed, including me... 'n we all fall into that age group. Strange, huh? Go $10+ jobs for all!