Originally posted by LASTofTheV8s
Originally posted by solomons path
Originally posted by LASTofTheV8s
Originally posted by solomons path
Thank you for proving my point!!
Aggression and malice? I'd simply be promoting my views the same as Kirk and the Fundie bunch. Do you lable their methods as aggressive and malicious? Where did I threaten anyone or promote the end of their religion? Am I not afforded the same "equal time" when I want my views expressed? Should their religious views carry more weight than anyone elses?
Once again thank you for proving my point and I welcome your internet tough guy "foot in my a" anytime!!
Peace angry guy . . .
Sorry. I'm not going to play "internet attorney" with you, and attempt to dissect and label and reprove again and again. I see what you were trying to do, I addressed it, and I am moving on. Period.
And, no, I don't think there is anything wrong with their approach to gaining new believer to the Christian faith. It's subtle and it's harmless.
And, no, I do not believe any opinion that is based in an attempt to Destroy, should be handled lightly and given fuel. That is just another example of a loophole being taken advantage of.
And, I would be saying the same thing if we were here discussing Christians attempting to destroy or demean the beliefs of others.
The term that should be "key" in any discussion like this, should be "enlighten".
Any type of civilized change, based in an attempt to change the beliefs of a people, should be based on a form of enlightenment, with respect to the people being reached.
But, unfortunately, Christians are the target of ridicule, hate and merciless attacks against their faith with no thought for the individuals that hold it so close to their hearts.
Whether you want to "discuss" it or not . . . you've proved my point. Christians can add whatever discrediting comment to secular views and it's promoting their "hearfelt" religion; however, if anyone does the same top their literature to express their secular views . . . it's mean spirited and once again the poor christians are being persecuted. Evangelicals can lobby for legislation to promote their views, but if someone does that same thing to promote secular views . . . it's a war against their faith.
Classic victims and it's work "miracles" for the last 2000 years . . .
There is no discussing it with PEOPLE LIKE YOU, because you have already afforded yourselves the luxury of labeling Christianity as "The Villain".
Once that has happened, PEOPLE LIKE YOU no longer respond to anything remotely resembling an exchange of ideas, or the possibility that you are dealing with "people", as opposed to a large, evil organization.
Because, without "The Villain", and the ability to hate it, you have nothing, and your view turns into one of malice and intolerance.
You are ignorant of the presence of "regular people" whom call themselves Christians, because it is more convenient to ignore them. Otherwise, you would have to admit that you are, in fact, attacking them. And, the vast majority of Christianity is made up of these very people. And, the vast majority of them are harming nobody, and just barely making it through their day, like people all over the world. Except, in this case, it is their adherence to Christianity that has helped them survive.
And, not only do you want to ridicule what they believe has saved them, but you, in turn, have also targeted them, as "Christians", to be a part of some sort of huge, evil power-base that most of them could not even conceive of.
Make no mistake here... You have taken on the very substance of that which you despise about the dark side of Christianity.
Good Luck with all that.
The more you let your anger and malice show, I'm assuming due to being offended, the more you prove my point. I simply pointed out the irony of what the fundies are doing, in the guise of "equal time", by reversing the situation. For someone that "doesn't even know if I believe in god", you sure seem offended. Just imagine how someone who believes in the god of the bible would respond!! Sheesh! I mean "equal" should work both ways, right? Why should the christian view be held above any other? Why should someone who doesn't believe has they do be forced to acquiesce to these poor persecuted christians. Once again, thanks for proving my point angry V8!! I'm giving you stars just for showing the ATS community exactly why Phage posted this story.
As for your many assumptions about me . . . well, you know what they say? Ignorant of the "regular people"? Evil power base? I'm talking about this incident. Kirk and Comfort are mouthpieces for the evangelical movement in the US . . . if the "regular people" are put down by the movement they belong to, then they shouldn't belong to them. I have many christian friends and family members, who all know how I feel about their faith; yet, this doesn't seem to offend them at all. Maybe they are strong in their faith and don't have to play the victim or become an internet tough guy to feel better about their firmly held beliefs. However even they know, most evangelical christians will not act as they. For you to overlook the obvious "nail on the head" irony of the hypothetical situation, which I orginally posted, and choose to focus your malice, based on assumptions of my personal ethos and life mission . . . speaks volumes about a tough, angry person (who doesn't even know if he believes in god).
Please keep patrolling the internet for the malicious hate crimes against that great persecuted minority, christians, and the common man in general.
I hope your holidays have been happier than your postings . . .
Peace brother!
[edit on 12/26/09 by solomons path]
