Jewish Women Dating Arabs Given Psychiatric Intervention

Jewish Women Dating Arabs Given Psychiatric Intervention

www .alternet.org

A local authority in Israel has announced that it is establishing a special team of youth counselors and psychologists whose job it will be to identify young Jewish women who are dating Arab men and "rescue" them.

Mr Hakak said the municipality had created a hotline that parents and friends of the Jewish women could use to inform on them.

(visit the link for the full news article)

Can the Irony get any thicker?

Arabs are already segregated to "special" camps or city blocks away from the Jewish population, now you need psychiatric help if you associate with an Arab.

Hotlines to tell on your friends and family? It sounds as if they took a page from their own history and flipped it on it's head.

And some people wonder why the civilized world looks to Israel with disgust. This is why. I mean how far do they have to go before the intellectual stragglers decide enough is enough? When they start constructing giant ovens and gas chambers to hasten the end of the "Arab problem"?

www .alternet.org
(visit the link for the full news article)

Yet anyone who questions Israeli policy is labeled anti-semite.

Curious....

[edit on 26-9-2009 by lucentenigma]

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I'm waiting for the Jewish Defense League to pick me up as we speak for daring to point out the facts, believe me.

Everyone in favour of the Palestinians being recognized as human beings is an anti-Semite to the core.

First, I have tried to find this story elsewhere and so far have come up empty. The writer of the article specifically wrote it for (or is employed by) the website where it appears. So I guess I am questioning it's authenticity.

That being said, from the article itself:

The team in Petah Tikva, a Jewish city of 200,000 residents, was created in direct response to news that two Jewish girls, aged 17 and 19, were accompanying a group of young Arab men when they allegedly beat a Jewish man, Leonard Karp, to death last month on a Tel Aviv beach. The older girl was from Petah Tikva.

The girls' involvement with the Arab youths has revived general concern that a once-firm taboo against interracial dating is beginning to erode among some young people.

It seems that there was a case where two Jewish women went out with a bunch of Arab men and ended up watching them kill a Jewish man.

That kind of puts a different spin on things and makes me wonder if the author of the article took the liberty of inserting the words "psychiatric rescue" etc.

HOWEVER, this whole nonsense about "preventing interracial marriage" is completely ridiculous and unacceptable.

Also, I was under the impression that Arab men couldn't be alone with unmarried women. Perhaps these were non-Muslim men? Or it doesn't apply to women of other faiths? Can anyone answer that?

Originally posted by lpowell0627
First, I have tried to find this story elsewhere and so far have come up empty. The writer of the article specifically wrote it for (or is employed by) the website where it appears. So I guess I am questioning it's authenticity.

That being said, from the article itself:

The team in Petah Tikva, a Jewish city of 200,000 residents, was created in direct response to news that two Jewish girls, aged 17 and 19, were accompanying a group of young Arab men when they allegedly beat a Jewish man, Leonard Karp, to death last month on a Tel Aviv beach. The older girl was from Petah Tikva.

The girls' involvement with the Arab youths has revived general concern that a once-firm taboo against interracial dating is beginning to erode among some young people.

It seems that there was a case where two Jewish women went out with a bunch of Arab men and ended up watching them kill a Jewish man.

That kind of puts a different spin on things and makes me wonder if the author of the article took the liberty of inserting the words "psychiatric rescue" etc.

HOWEVER, this whole nonsense about "preventing interracial marriage" is completely ridiculous and unacceptable.

Also, I was under the impression that Arab men couldn't be alone with unmarried women. Perhaps these were non-Muslim men? Or it doesn't apply to women of other faiths? Can anyone answer that?

The source is at the bottom of the page, Alternet is reposting it... you didn't look very far before you questioned it. Link

Arab isn't a religion, it's a race.

It's not hard to speculate what started the fight between the Jewish man and the Arabs escorting the Jewish women, who do you think started that confrontation?

Inter-religious, not interracial.
This sort of thing happens in just about all religions, not just with Jews.
I take it you are outraged Sunnis don't date Shiites?

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It reminds me of this particularly daft campaign.

The campaign by MASA, an organization funded by public and private funds, showed Jews living outside of Israel -- known as the diaspora -- as "lost" because they had married non-Jews. The effort offended many Jews who had entered into mixed-faith marriages and didn't consider themselves "lost."

CNN.com

Thankfully people saw it for what it was .

The backlash created by the campaign ultimately resulted in it being pulled after three days.

link

Using slogans like "Lost" and "Rescue" .......

Mr Hakak said the municipality had created a hotline that parents and friends of the Jewish women could use to inform on them. "We can't tell the girls what to do but we can send a psychologist to their home to offer them and their parents advice," he said

Link in OP

Shocking nonsense !


Edit: broken link.

[edit on 26-9-2009 by UmbraSumus]

Originally posted by stevegmu
Inter-religious, not interracial.
This sort of thing happens in just about all religions, not just with Jews.
I take it you are outraged Sunnis don't date Shiites?

You're trying to tell me a Jew would date an ethnic Arab if he wasn't Muslim? Really? You're serious? It's not just a religious thing anymore, perhaps it started that way hundreds of years ago but Israeli's don't ask for religious affiliation before they stuff Arabs into camps.

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If they were Arab Jews or Christians, I would imagine there would be no problems.

Are you referring to the camps in Jordan, Syria and Lebanon?

Many Japanese don't allow their daughters to date non Japanese. Can you direct me to the thread about that travesty?

Another article on this.

Petah Tikva tries to discourage young girls' relationships with older men

Following the murder of Eric Karp last month, the Petah Tikva Municipality has geared up efforts to discourage interaction between local teenage girls and older Arab Israeli men.

One of the young women who was with the group that allegedly killed Karp while he was out with his family, was from Petah Tikva. Local youth counselors say it is a phenomenon that puts the teenagers at risk. "What happened at Tel Baruch [beach] wasn't a surprise," said Nurit Tibi, the director of Petah Tikva's youth counseling center.

For the last year and a half, the municipality, in cooperation with ELEM Youth In Distress In Israel and the Israel Anti-Drug Authority, has been operating a street crew of youth-care professionals and volunteers, in an effort to identify and assist teenagers at risk, among them some who have fallen victim to exploitation by Arab men.

Tibi spoke about teenagers, sometimes girls as young as 11 or 12, who come from dysfunctional homes and who are often outside of the school system. These young women, mainly immigrants from the FSU who suffer from identity problems, form relationships with young men who come to the city at night to drink alcohol, do drugs and meet girls.

Well since psychoanalysis was a Zionist invention to begin with (Freud) it’s safe to say that this is an appropriate thing to do!

You see you do not actually have free will according to Freud and you in fact do not like being placed in the situation where you are tempted to use free will according to Freud and while you might long for sexual relationships of an incestuous nature while highly intoxicated on Cocaine (Freud) this is only based on your desire to succumb to the ultimate parental authority and authority according to Freud because you hate the burden of free will according to Freud which for a price a handy dandy Zionist will be glad to relieve you of said burden.

Here on ATS there is no shortage of handy dandy Zionists reminding us all of Freud’s great wisdom and helping to keep us from getting confused on that pesky and troublesome and destructive free will that plagues us in all kinds of ways when we don’t listen to the Zionists!

I like these poor misled and astray Israeli girls in love with Arab boys was confused initially too in how to react to this but thankfully there are Zionists here to help me know the right thing to do!

We are all so lucky just like these girls! Thank you Zionists we just wouldn’t know what to do without you!

Starting very soon though we hope to try

Well since psychoanalysis was a Zionist invention to begin with (Freud)

I don't think Freud was a Zionist.

Freud would have been little surprised at the continuing conflict in the Middle East. He predicted as much 70 years ago.

We can anticipate Freud's response because of a letter he wrote to Dr. Chaim Koffler in 1930. In February 1930 Freud was asked, as a distinguished Jew, to contribute to a petition condemning Arab riots of 1929, in which over a hundred Jewish settlers were killed. This was his reply:

Letter to the Keren Hajessod (Dr. Chaim Koffler)

Vienna: 26 February 1930

Dear Sir,

I cannot do as you wish. I am unable to overcome my aversion to burdening the public with my name, and even the present critical time does not seem to me to warrant it. Whoever wants to influence the masses must give them something rousing and inflammatory and my sober judgement of Zionism does not permit this. I certainly sympathise with its goals, am proud of our University in Jerusalem and am delighted with our settlement's prosperity. But, on the other hand, I do not think that Palestine could ever become a Jewish state, nor that the Christian and Islamic worlds would ever be prepared to have their holy places under Jewish care. It would have seemed more sensible to me to establish a Jewish homeland on a less historically-burdened land. But I know that such a rational viewpoint would never have gained the enthusiasm of the masses and the financial support of the wealthy. I concede with sorrow that the baseless fanaticism of our people is in part to be blamed for the awakening of Arab distrust. I can raise no sympathy at all for the misdirected piety which transforms a piece of a Herodian wall into a national relic, thereby offending the feelings of the natives.

Now judge for yourself whether I, with such a critical point of view, am the right person to come forward as the solace of a people deluded by unjustified hope.

Your obediant servant,

Freud

(Source: freud.org.uk)

Did you mean 'Jewish invention'?

Anyway, carry on, fruit cake.

Freud has mixed feelings about zionism for sure. He can't denied he was a jew and for other hand he has very clear idea how the mob/religion/culture manipulate and create the human psyque.
Zionists don't like Freud to much because he liked stated the Moses, the big badass prophet, was a prince of Egypt, follower of monotheistic ideas of Aknaton and he was not born from jewish parents

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Freud's response to Dr. Chaim Koffler .

I can raise no sympathy at all for the misdirected piety which transforms a piece of a Herodian wall into a national relic, thereby offending the feelings of the natives.

link

That was quite a response , he left them in no doubt as to his thoughts on the subject.
Very interesting : chips
Thanks for posting it.

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It's true apparently Freud was not really a Zionist but hey in all fairness that argument I posted above worked really well at getting me out of having to take counseling sessions while I was busy working on getting kicked out of reform school with the time I saved not having to suffer through them!

It worked for me then, so I am sticking with it now.

Frued was distinctly Jewish though and worried that his theories might never be accepted by the gentile population because so much of the Jewish religion and mysticism was included in them.

He heavily courted Jung for that purpose claiming that he (Freud) did not really understand the Gentile mindset and hoped that Jung could collaborate with him to that end to develop the fledgling craft to be more universally acceptable and effective.

Freud often quipped that the only profession that had more Jews in it was the Rabinical calling.

I will though admitt to being wrong about Freud being a Zionist but must ask you all to never repeat that admission should you ever run across anyone from the reform school I got kicked out of...deal?

I'm an anti-Semite and I'm proud of it =p.

So what?

This is no different than religious fanatics here in America who are trying to "rescue" gays.

I'm not a fan of Israel but let's not tear the whole country apart just because of this...let's look at our own nation first before we make any judgment.

Wonder how many people here would love to have their 12 year old daughter going out with a grown man? But I guess that's not an anti-Jewish question, so it doesn't really fit in with the mindset here.

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I looked at the bottom. I was questioning it simply because I have not come across much from these two mentioned sources, and I am finding of late no shortage of inflammatory words specifically designed to incite additional hatred towards any one particular group.

As I stated, it was not in anyway a reflection of the OP -- it was a question as to whom was labeling it a "psychiatric condition".

Having put that issue to rest, I realize that Arabs are a race and not a religeon. My question was really, do we know of what faith these particular arabs are -- and whether or not that played any part in the obvious outrage of the situation by the jewish community. (not that it would in anyway justify the response) The majority of arabs are muslim, and not able to travel with unmarried women unescorted.

I would find it interesting if the men were arab christians, for example.

I guess I was trying to ascertain whether or not the jewish community was targeting a specific group of arabs (i.e. muslim, christian, etc.) or simply banning the co-mingling of female Jews and arab men as a whole.