How much are the deaths of over 6000 soldiers to you?

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most of my family died in poverty lol , i was raised by relatives lol , who were poor , but today i am rich , self-made ,lol

Obama seems to be taking good care of sisters/gf , no wonders you are an excellent obamatron . and

go back to your blackwater masters or else you will lose your job bo bo go quickly or else you will lose your today's wage or even job , then don't whine about illegals or hard working indians or chinese taking your job on american patriot forums . murderers/babykillers like you deserve much worser and don't worry karma will make you pay and like how most americans are reaping what they sowed so will you , murderer

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I am disgusted - these boys got a job - ok, it was war, and that sux - but they died.

At least give them some respect, because they died for you and your country.

oops they died for the mic and big oil . why should i respect murderers,thieves,rapists ?

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I feel for your sadness, but these boys did not die for any of that - and neither are they to blame - they were young and they died fighting for their country, even tho they may not have known the truth about their country.

Obamatron? Now that's a major insult. Worse than being called "Blackwater".



I'm sorry, did I strike a nerve? Did mom finally bust your ass and make you clean the garage and the basement?

What a sad little child you are. How about running away and find some other forum to actually contribute to, instead of weeping like a woman on this one. The grown ups are trying to have a conversation.

And your mom said the basement still looked like ass. Clean it up. And put some sheets on your bed, you look like a meth addict.

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I've already writen a few good descriptions of why we went to war; the petrodollar/petroeuro issuse, the oil pipeline, the control of the oil markets, etc, etc why don't you argue against those rather than some childish idea that economic imperialism is only theft if you stom in and actually pick things up and put them in your pockets, seriously is your understanding of world trade really that limited?

Well, where to start...

I was for the invasion of Afghanistan...they harbored those terrorists that attacked us. They were training there and protected by the Taliban government. We asked them to give them up, they didn't. It was a neccessary and just action to protect ourselves from further attacks.

The premise is that the sacrifice saves more lives than it costs.

Was it worth human lives...debatable, but I assume those that went volounteered and felt the cause just.

We should have withdrew from Afghanistan by now, or toppled the government and played hit and run...no occupation, get the job done and leave. THAT is defending our nation. Occupation and Nation Building? Well you'd think historically Rome and the British Empire would have taught the USA a thing or two.

Iraq....stupidity, bad intelligence, corrupt leadership within both the USA and Iraq. Once committed to war, we should have packed up and left the minute Saddam was hung. Mission accomplished...now get out.



Most people are for CHOICE not ABORTION. Nobody likes abortions.
And you are assuming that everyone agrees that abortion is actually murder or taking a human life. Between 20% and 40% of pregnancies end in misscarriage in the first trimester...is God a murderer?

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I don't know what "most" people are for. The point of this thread was to see why people value life in more areas than others. It was meant to stir some thought with those who are for one and not the other.

20 to 40 percent seems high..but I won't question that. If there is a "God"....you'd think it would be 0 percent.....

But that's an entirely different topic there. I'm relating to death at the hands of people...not natural death...which is what a miscarriage really is. Yes, there are factors involved...many...

A miscarriage isn't an abortion.

Thanks for the reply.

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I agree with most of what you stated about the war. Iraq was a massive mistake...if we did anything...it should have been Afganistan, although that is one of the factors that caused the USSR to collapse and we are following that path....

I want the troops home. Defend the country with DEFENSE...not OFFENSE. Protect our borders and take care of the people within...not fight wars on the other side of the world where they have been constantly fighting for 1000's of years.

We agree here.

I know it's not your main topic, but "Natural" ...If we classify Misscarriages as "Natural" occurances or for the religious "god's will" as opposed at the "hands of people" then we also have to examine our role in saving premature births...we do a great deal of that these days...interfering with "Nature" or "God's Will"

As for the war in it's current state...insanity...it should be a singular manhunt, NOT Nation Building, NOT occupation...where is Osama?? No one even asks that question anymore.

You are right...the USSR tried Afghanistan and got their asses handed to them...as it stands most people alive in Afghanistan have grew up in a war zone...the live and breath it....we can manage the hunt for Osama and al-quadae with tactical/strategic missions, an occupation invites certain misery and a high death toll.