disclaimer : if any soul traveled from the future to this now time , the very last thing it would do is talk about time travel , much less suggest that it came from the future.

that is not to say that artifacts of its travel might not be clearly seen once the eye was trained to know what is being seen .

I began this day , traveled in time to this now stat , and with good fortune will travel in time to a future ... thus I am a time traveler .

I need to define a few concepts to make my statement .

a mobius loop is a fractal object , because it has only one edge and one side . where as a square sheet of paper has 2 sides and 4 edges .

there are at least 4 class's of object in this reality.

1) time/space finite objects/ conditions which can not be created nor distroy'd ... they begin as energy at the big bang and are transformed into matter in the natural process of time.
2) order of invention , once a concept , idea or thought is created for the first time... it may not be uncreated... so that , there is a time befor coffee cups , and a time of coffee cups ... but once coffee cups are thought of... they can not be uncreated .
3) order of being , those things which have a begining , middle , and ending... such as storys , tasks , life times quests or missions ....
4) other , those time / space objects or process's that do not fit in to the other three class's


travel in time is not a hard thing , you travel in time as I do .
changing local speed of travel thru time is not difficult , as it is only a energy state which can be managed with freezers or speed relitive to the constant ( speed of light ) frankly speaking... you do it commonly in your kitchen .

what is hard is changing loction in time out of scheduled sequence , or changing direction in time .

the problem is best illustrated in the images of a movie play'd backwards . all the forces of the universe must be reversed while acting upon the local subject in a orderly way to return it to a past time .... however some part of the local object /time must retain its hold on the future that has not yet happen'd .

frankly ,for class one objects , changing direction only once would result in the local object being distroyed , so success requires changing directions twice .

for class two objects , they are anchored to their moment of creation , so with out changing their creator , there is chaos , any motion in time is meaningless .

what most people think of as time travel can only happen with class three...

the reason is best understood with a metaphor .

imagin that for ever year of life , you get 1 square inch of paper ....
you can make a 10x10 peice , or a 1x100 peice , or a 1/4 x400 peice of paper .... you can do what you like with the dimensions , but you only have 10 square inches period .

thats all well and good , but lets say time space is a mobius loop . if you are a class one , there is no change what ever .

a class two , any travel in time would result in your distruction .

but if you have only 10 square inch's .... where you place those inch's in time are not limited in concept at all.



it seems to me.... awareness is uniquly suited to time travel .... where as a conceptual super being which never dies would be limited in concept ....


the problem of our time is balance of rythem's in pendulum's

create in the minds eye : a 1/2 inch sheet of floating cork , 10 square inch's in size , floating on an infinite sea that is as still as the surface of glass .
upon it make 10 pendulum's , each unique and diffrent .
set each pendulum swinging , in perfect harmony , each counter to the other in cancling motion .

the problem in our time , is that one pendlum rob's energy from the others , causing disharmony and sets the water of the infinite sea in motion , removing energy from all , the whole then slows to stillness .

what is hard to see , hard to understand...people are diffrent for a reason , with diffrent passions , skills , talents and gifts . like so meny pendulums swinging .
if one person is regulated to give their energy to another , all the are harmed ...

no single person exsists with out reason , the whole is not made better by creating a balance govern'd to one rythem's uniqueness .... there is no harmony that is singluar...

the result of control will bring stillness .

If you believe in time travel, ha, I got your answers for the immediate future, no BS!

you took time to write a reply , you traveled in time...

please think out what is wrong with my comment .

Originally posted by readerone
you took time to write a reply , you traveled in time...

please think out what is wrong with my comment .

ok then, how do you travel backwards ??

If one word posts were allowed I would say BS.

In no way does your comment tell us how to learn to time travel, if it is possibe for us to do, what you have found out so far you share nothing of the past or the future.

I truly feel bad bumping this rubbish

there is the real answer and the answer your question .

your answer is.. to distroy a partical in the now stat time...
it would not have a future... therefore not have a past ... reordering time universaly .... and you can change the past .

youtravel into the past all the time... its called memory/history.

you can go into the future very simply ... it is called recording music .

planning and schedules are a primitive attempt at time travel .

the real answer is not this easy

Originally posted by readerone
disclaimer : if any soul traveled from the future to this now time , the very last thing it would do is talk about time travel , much less suggest that it came from the future.

Hmmm thats assuming the trauma of birth hasn't wiped the memory.
I would contend that the 'soul' is an external entity.
Time and Space are linear in this matter universe.
The other-side, is outside of timespace, and is probably able to view timespace in an entirely different way.
Given the age of the Universe, it is likely that many high civilizations have pulsed.
And what is it that attracts a soul? possibilities for personal developement.
Your next incarnation may be in the past.

please note : I was commenting on the political , not meta physics , or propertys of time travel .

the awareness , soul or spirit is capable of time travel currently.
causing change in the future and past are quite another thing.
the mechanic's of time travel is seem in the artifacts of it happening .

those who close their eyes to the reality of time travel is not my problem . showing these artifacts is my great joy...

giving simple exsamples of time travel is not hard to an open mind .

Originally posted by readerone
you can go into the future very simply ... it is called recording music .

No - its called recording music.

Recording music is called recording music.

Just because I say humming a tune is called world war 3 doesn't make humming a tune world war 3.

I will travel a day or 2 into the future and explain this to you, unless I go into the past and explain it and then you would never write this thread - BRILLIANT!

Dorian Soran

Did you note that this is the Political Issues forum?

I can't say that your discussion is scientifically sound, but it does belong in a scientific forum.

As near as I can tell, you're just playing word games.

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