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Topic started on 25-9-2009 @ 09:27 AM by Wimbly
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Ed Schultz went on another crazy rampage against the minority party today, claiming that "Republicans want to see you dead". For a second I thought
it face was going to erupt, but thankfully his makeup kept it anchored. Does anyone else notice that Ed seems to be trying to copy Beck's style?
Except for the James and the giant peach look of Ed's set.
He was talking about Eric Cantor and his answer to a woman's story about her cancer and not being able to afford care. Schultz didn't like the fact
Cantor mentioned charitable care.
Its quite amazing to watch the media so viciously attack Obama's critics like they do. Especially since they're job seemed to be quite the opposite
for the last 8 years. When are these guys going to start giving the 3rd degree to the people who are actually in power? Republicans are the minority
party and have no power!
newsbusters.org...
ED SHULTZ: Eric Cantor’s suggestion that if the public option were off the table, heck, all the Republicans, they’d be on board with health
care reform. Annt! Another lie. The Republicans want one thing, do not forget this my friends, and that is failure. They will blame the public option
until the public option is dead and then they’ll blame something else. They want to dismantle reform. They’ll never work with the Democrats on
this. Now, here’s another dandy from Mr. Cantor, himself. Just a couple of days ago, the Congressman holding one of his, well, his only health care
town hall in the state of Virginia. A woman named Patricia Churchill stood up and told this story. Here it is.
PATRICIA CHURCHILL: I have a very close relative, a woman in her early 40s, who did Have a wonderful, high-paying job, owns her own home and was a
real contributing member of society. She lost her job. Just a couple of weeks ago she found out that she has tumors in her belly and that she needs an
operation. Her doctors told her that they are growing and that she needs to get this operation quickly. She has no insurance.
ERIC CANTOR: I guess I would ask what the situation is in terms of income eligibility and the existing programs that are out there, because if we look
at the uninsured right now, there is probably 23%, 24% of the uninsured that is already eligible for an existing government program. Beyond that, I
know that there are programs, there are charitable organizations, there are hospitals here who do provide charity care.
SHULTZ: That is a classic, my friends. Did you get all of that? A woman’s got stomach issues. She’s got cancer. She needs surgery now. This is a
classic, because when you present the Republicans and the obstructionists with a real-life scenario, they don’t have an answer. They’re still
talking percentages. How would you like to be in the percentage where you’re left out? You’re just SOL? That’s their reform. That’s their
answer. You know, they’re great at holding up the socialism, the communism, the Marxism, all kinds of ’isms, but they don’t have an answer for
that woman. She’s just at the wrong spot at the wrong time, and we’ve got to talk about the redistribution of wealth. You know, I was watching the
U.N. coverage today here on MSNBC, and all the speeches that were given. And they took a wide shot of all the different diplomats and leaders of the
countries that were there, and I wish I had gone over there with a camera and done an international man on the street or leader on the street and
asked them if they do health care in their country the way we do it here. But I know the answer. It’s no. We like to butcher people who have got
cancer that don’t fall in the correct percentage point. So here’s my point. Americans, you can’t trust Eric Cantor! Cantor’s response speaks
volumes about how inept the Republicans are and how they are simply not solution-based. Charity? Is that what he said? This woman can’t get a
government program. She’s in her early 40s. She’s too young for Medicare. She doesn’t qualify for Medicaid, but there’s always charity, or
what the heck? You can go to the hospital and plead your case and say, ‘well, you know, I’m broke.’ Cantor should know that there’s no such
thing as a free lunch in health care. The hospital passes the costs on to the other patients or they pass it on to the insurance companies and then
they pass it on to you and me in some form of a higher premium. And that’s how the hell we got started in this whole debate in this country in the
first place about health care reform. Hold it right there! The Republicans lie! They want to see you dead! They’d rather make money off your dead
corpse! They kind of like it when that woman has cancer and they don’t have anything for her. That’s how the insurance companies make money. By
denying the coverage. My God, Democrats! What’s wrong with you?! You can’t deal with these people! At all! But it's socialism. But it’s about
taxes. Let’s get to the larger issue here. Cantor thinks that there are more important issues than a life or death thing for that woman. You know,
there’s the pressing issue of amendments over on the Senate side that he hasn’t said anything about like, ‘hey, man, let’s go after ACORN.’
What do you say we make sure we don’t have any czars in health care reform.
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reply posted on 25-9-2009 @ 09:33 AM by damwel
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What I notice is Ed will take either side to task. He is very upset over the Democrats not putting in regulations to stop the big insurance companies
from still taking advantage of and killing people. A public option could help keep costs down but without regulatory control over the insurance
companies it won't be enough.
What he means by the title is that Republicans are so into the pockets of big insurance that they would just as soon see you die as get help. It makes
the insurance companies richer and happier.
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reply posted on 25-9-2009 @ 09:36 AM by pavil
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Ed Schultz has a TV show?????
Seriously though, Mr. Schultz is going and MSNBC for that part keep wading off into the "deep end" of the pool. It's going to get to the point of
even moderate Democrats distancing themselves from their ilk.
Keep up the good work Ed, Keith, Chris, Rachel and the whole gang over at MSNBC. ...........Nov. 2nd, 2010 is almost around the corner.
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reply posted on 25-9-2009 @ 09:38 AM by jjkenobi
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What he means by the title is that Republicans are so into the pockets of big insurance that they would just as soon see you die as get help.
It makes the insurance companies richer and happier.
Complete and utter ridiculousness. Why aren't the Dems passing legislation against big pharma right now? When they can? NO ONE is stopping them
except themselves. Oops!
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reply posted on 25-9-2009 @ 09:42 AM by pavil
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reply posted on 25-9-2009 @ 09:46 AM by TeddiRevolution
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There is no left and right. They are at their breaking point. They don't tell misinformation anymore, they scream it.
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reply posted on 25-9-2009 @ 09:53 AM by Wimbly
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Originally posted by damwel
What I notice is Ed will take either side to task.
Not from what I've seen over the years. If anything he might go after Democrats for not being left wing enough, but his main goal is to run
distraction for them, by attacking their critics. Which seems to be the job of most in the media these days.
What he means by the title is that Republicans are so into the pockets of big insurance that they would just as soon see you die as get help.
It makes the insurance companies richer and happier.
No, thats not what he means. He means to fear monger about the party out of power and shut them up. If Glenn Beck had said "The democrats want to see
you dead", you would be outraged.
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reply posted on 25-9-2009 @ 09:56 AM by TheCoffinman
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extreme republicans make me sick.... extreme democrats make me sick... we have nothing left people, WAKE UP!!
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reply posted on 25-9-2009 @ 02:27 PM by shortywarn
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this is simple
outrageousness brings in viewers
case in point----early on the howard stern show
and msnbc sees that the more outlandish glen beck gets,,, the higher his ratings go
monkey see, monkey do,,,, a copycat
this isn't that hard to get the reasoning behind it
ratings,,, and how to get em
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reply posted on 25-9-2009 @ 02:50 PM by Wimbly
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and msnbc sees that the more outlandish glen beck gets,,, the higher his ratings go
Well, the mistake both you and MSNBC are making is that Beck's viewership isn't based on "outlandishness". People watch and listen to Beck,
because he often makes a lot of sense and does it in a funny way. Hes also one of the only people out there being critical of the current majority in
Washington. Which is probably why Schultz continues to be one of the lowest rated shows on TV.
Hes got no talent, hes a shill and he goes crazy every show. Who wants to watch that?
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reply posted on 25-9-2009 @ 03:08 PM by soldiermom
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The more I watch of people like Schultz, Matthews, Olberman, blah, blah, blah, the more I'm convinced that they want something to happen. Who
exactly is pushing for violence here?
They're practically wetting themselves in the hopes that they can be proven right.
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reply posted on 28-9-2009 @ 08:26 PM by shortywarn
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Originally posted by Wimbly
reply to post by shortywarn
and msnbc sees that the more outlandish glen beck gets,,, the higher his ratings go
Hes got no talent, hes a shill and he goes crazy every show. Who wants to watch that?
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r u talking about schultz or beck???/
seriously i can't tell,,, that describes both of them
please tell me you don't believe everything beck says
all the people that believe his propoganda are what is ruining the tea party movements
totally uninformed and spewing false info
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reply posted on 28-9-2009 @ 08:46 PM by Ferris.Bueller.II
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The reason for all the fake fury over on the left is to make the public think all the bad decisions from the Obama/Reid/Pelosi regime are actually
being made by the Republicans. That's the only way they can hold onto their majority in Washington through 2010, with their abysmal performance so
far. It's a good thing MSNBC and it's sister 'Obama bought and paid for' network stations have equivalent viewership numbers to midnight
infomercials.
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reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 07:04 AM by Kaploink
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Originally posted by shortywarn
this is simple
outrageousness brings in viewers
case in point----early on the howard stern show
and msnbc sees that the more outlandish glen beck gets,,, the higher his ratings go
monkey see, monkey do,,,, a copycat
this isn't that hard to get the reasoning behind it
ratings,,, and how to get em
That's the same with all the talking heads and book sellers. I think it's safe to bet that they don't even believe what they spew out to their
listeners. They will say whatever it takes to fatten their wallets. Whether its something outlandish fo ratings or to attack legislation which their
corporate sponsors want killed.
I have to admit that I was a loyal Rush Limbaugh listener back in the 90s. Until the day of Bill Clinton mother's funeral. Rush spent the whole show
making fun of the president for crying at his mother's funeral. While I am no fan of Bill Clinton, that simply crossed the line. It opened my eyes
of what low life scum the talking heads were. No man who has any bit of decency would make fun of someone being sad at the lost of a family
member.
With that said, its no surprise to me that the talking heads would incite violence if their ratings would improve from doing so. They care little
about anything but their own jobs and incomes.
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reply posted on 29-9-2009 @ 02:58 PM by Wimbly
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please tell me you don't believe everything beck says
I'm skeptical of everyone, so no I don't. He does make some very good points though. Points that are rare thanks to the make up of our media.
reply to post by Kaploink
While I am no fan of Bill Clinton, that simply crossed the line. It opened my eyes of what low life scum the talking heads were. No man who has
any bit of decency would make fun of someone being sad at the lost of a family member.
Do you have any evidence of this? I find it hard to beleive.
Are you sure you aren't thinking of this?
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