Originally posted by digger2381
reply to post by bismarcksea
ETA: Forgot to mention that I had the scanner on all day and they were calling out this location as one of the places where officers had an arrest but
were surrounded by a crowd, needing assistance, send extra units, etc. Perhaps it was this that I was hearing. It sounded like baum and
melvalle/melville on the scanner, and not being familiar with the area, I couldn't find it. Millvale, not melville. Doh.
First post here, so please forgive if I've missed something. First, I absolutely believe that the police and/or their superiors overreacted on
several occasions during the protests. But I also understand the dangers the officers were in and appreciate their nervousness about the situation.
And would like to say that for the most part I believe the officers acted with proper tactics and in good faith to most of the situations they faced.
And I do believe that the video is real, but is not what people are making it out to be...
First, I don't understand why people haven't considered what digger said here. This is the most
important part of all the speculation. Is
there reason to believe that what digger said was a lie? Digger points out that per what they heard on a police scanner, the police had made an
arrest in this immediate area and needed help with getting the person out of there safely and had asked for assistance. I buy the assistance part
because at the very end of the video you can see smoke up the street usually a good sign of trouble.
Second, it has been stated several times that the guys in 'tigues are Pennsylvania ERT. Is there a reason not to believe this?
Therefore, I can't see why this can't be considered a legit episode. This guy was apparently already
arrested because of something he did at
or about the time of the video.
Therefore, there was no "snatching". If you watch the video carefully, the ERT seems to be sitting in a squatted position on the sidewalk (probably
with the perp on the ground) while waiting on the car as they seem to "stand up" when it arrives. The couple of riot police close by are probably
the ones that had arrested him, and had handed him over to the PA ERT. Again no snatching, no grabbing, no illegal law enforcement.
Next, in the still pic in the OP, it doesn't show someone standing with a foot on the perp's back, as mentioned in a previous post. There is
an officer bent down next to him, putting on or adjusting the cable tie on the perp's hands (and yes, his knee is over, and probably touching, the
guy's back resultant from the stance of the officer), but I don't see any kind of excessive force there.
And as for the guy in the red bandana, does anyone else see the guy give two thumbs up at the car while it's driving away? (at abt :25) This was the
only thing that had given me pause about the validity of the film, tho' I never doubted it. But anyway, the two thumbs up shows that something went
through his mind. I would say he acted on his thoughts which got him in trouble, thus his arrest.